Adding to List & Thumbing Down Acting Inconsistently

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Adding to List & Thumbing Down Acting Inconsistently

1megbmore
Apr. 9, 2021, 1:16 pm

When adding to a list that is supposed to be limited in number, sometimes some members are able to add more than five. This does not seem to happen consistently.

Steps to reproduce:
Go to the Nature Writing list: https://www.librarything.com/list/43001/all/Recommended-Nature-Writing
Add five titles
One of three things seems to happen next:
1. The option to add more titles goes away (i.e. the text "Add To Your List / Thumbs Down" disappears)
2. The option to add more titles is still showing on the screen, but clicking "Add to Your List" doesn't actually add to the list.
3. Able to successfully add more than five books to the list (see, for example: https://www.librarything.com/list/43001/kristilabrie/Recommended-Nature-Writing or https://www.librarything.com/list/43001/DetailMuse/Recommended-Nature-Writing)

Hard to reproduce because it seems to change without rhyme or reason.

2megbmore
Apr. 9, 2021, 1:40 pm

Related: as noted in scenario 1, once someone has added five books, sometimes both "Add To Your List / Thumbs Down" disappears, which means they cannot thumbs down a book that does not fit the list.

3al.vick
Apr. 9, 2021, 2:43 pm

I have 5 books on my list. I never tried to add more than 5, but if I do that now (the add to list is still there in the upper right), I get a message saying I cannot add more than 5 books. Fine and good. But I cannot thumbs down anything (not so good). And the "add to your list" button is correctly missing from any of the books on the list. I have not seen any of this behavior change for my list since the beginning of the list.

4spiphany
Apr. 10, 2021, 4:52 am

I don't think it's intermittent.

The "limit" function seems to have not been working (i.e., people could add more books than the set limit) until around April 6. Everyone who added more than five titles to "Recommended Nature Writing" did so before that date. (I'm guessing the same is true for this list also, but I haven't been following it closely: https://www.librarything.com/list/42887/all/Must-Read-Books-by-Black-Authors)

If anyone has been able to exceed the limit since April 6 that would be a useful data point.

Otherwise, it seems to me that at present the limit function works. However, it also prevents users from thumbing down books once they have either "added" or "thumbed down" the maximum number of titles -- i.e., the system counts "thumbing down" towards the limit, which doesn't seem like the way it should work.

I tested this a bit (Firefox, Windows) and there seems to be just one small exception to this, and it involves reloading the page: the link to add or thumb down only disappears after the page is reloaded. If you have not reloaded the page since reaching the maximum number allowed by the list, it is possible to thumb down (but not add) additional titles.

5lorax
Apr. 12, 2021, 12:49 pm

megbmore (#1):

I have seen no reports of anyone who has added all five books to their list since April 6 being able to thumbs-down a work. This is not "intermittent", this is "just plain doesn't work". Which is good, since it's much easier to fix.

6spiphany
Bearbeitet: Apr. 19, 2021, 1:31 pm

There was a comment in another thread which suggests that being able to vote for more titles than a list limit may be connected to accessing the list via a Facebook link: https://www.librarything.com/topic/329661#7419725 (see post #9).

I also withdraw my speculation that something changed around April 6, since it looks like at least one person has been able to add more than 5 titles to the "Nature Writing" list after that date.

7hipdeep
Bearbeitet: Okt. 13, 2021, 11:25 am

I've just been able to replicate this bug, I think. For me:

1) I voted my limit of 5 on https://www.librarything.com/list/43246/all/Scary-Stories-for-the-Season# yesterday.
2) Today I dropped a book off my list to add a different one which was not on the list yet. (List goes from 5 books to 4.)
3) I clicked the "Add work to list" link in the upper right corner, searched for and added a 5th book, and then, without closing the "Add work to list" popup, searched for and added another book not yet on the list.
4) I now have 6 books on my list. If I try to add another, I get the "This list has a limit of 5 items per member" popup.

Steps 1 and 2 may not be relevant, but included for completeness. I'll leave my list in place for a while as an example, but eventually being "that guy" with 6 on his list of 5 will bug me and I'll fix it.

(FWIW, presumably since my list is full, I do not see the "add work to your list | thumbs down" links for titles on this list.)

8spiphany
Mrz. 29, 2022, 2:05 pm

Any progress on fixing the issue that counts thumbs-down votes towards a user's total in lists that allow only a limited number of votes per user? (for example, the LT lists of the month?)

I consider this a bug, as it is not how the lists previously worked, and it doesn't seem fair to ask users to choose between voting down titles that are off-topic and adding their own titles. (Particularly so in cases like the March list, where I suspect some of the off-topic titles were added by one user with the intent to provoke. I thought about using the new flag feature instead, but decided it would only be interpreted by said user as evidence of censorship.)

9kristilabrie
Mrz. 30, 2022, 8:05 am

No progress, yet, I'm afraid, but I'll mention this to the developers. I appreciate your patience in the meantime!

10amanda4242
Mai 11, 2022, 8:20 pm

bump

11knerd.knitter
Mrz. 7, 2023, 11:27 am

I think I fixed the problem but this code is quite complex. If you find that I haven't fixed it, please re-open and I'll take another stab at it.

12hipdeep
Mai 19, 2023, 3:41 pm

Apologies if this should be a new bug but here's a new use case that isn't exactly what I'd expect.

https://www.librarything.com/list/44599/Best-Graphic-Novel-Nonfiction has a maximum of 10 votes plus the ability to thumbs-down books which are out of scope for the list. I have done this and it works great, getting a list of 10 plus 4 downvotes. Yay!

However, I'd now like to edit my list. I remove a vote for a book (seeing "Your List" of 9, plus 4 downvotes) and go to add a new one, and get the error "Not added. This list has a limit of 10 items per member".

So I go drop all my no votes, getting "Your List" of 9 plus no downvotes, add the yes vote I want to add, and put all my no votes back.

So it seems like the limit is still checking the total list size, not the number in the "Your List" tab, when you vote FOR a book, just not when you vote AGAINST one. Not sure if that's a new bug or a reopen-this-one, but there's the report anyway.