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1Collectorator
Dez. 1, 2011, 10:18 pm

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2Collectorator
Dez. 1, 2011, 10:31 pm

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3rsterling
Dez. 1, 2011, 10:39 pm

Agreed: many of these are not events. Some are. Religion, abortion, etc. are not events. "Such-and-such movements" are questionable as events, but because they're time-bound, maybe they could count. But yes, many of these entries need to get deleted.

5lilithcat
Dez. 1, 2011, 11:17 pm

You've got to wonder if some people know what the word "event" means!

6Collectorator
Dez. 1, 2011, 11:23 pm

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7Collectorator
Dez. 1, 2011, 11:26 pm

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8AnnieMod
Dez. 1, 2011, 11:30 pm

>6 Collectorator:

If you do not feel like doing it, don't. But deleting valid data because there is invalid amongst it is plainly weird. There might be data from other users there.

9Collectorator
Bearbeitet: Dez. 1, 2011, 11:44 pm

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10rsterling
Bearbeitet: Dez. 1, 2011, 11:46 pm

I just spent 10-15 minutes sorting through the events on one book, and deleting most of them.

BEFORE:
abortion
abstinence
Aceh Declaration
Acid deposition
agriculture
AIDS
Alan Shaw Feinstein World Hunger Program
amniocentesis
Asko statement
Baby Boom
Baby Farming
birth control
birth rates
International Conference on Population and Development
carbon dioxide emissions
childbearing
Climate Change
Colombo Plan
consumption
contraception
death rates
deforestation
demographic momentum
demographic transition
economic discounting
drought
emigration
family planning
female circumcision
female infanticide
feminism
fertility
floods
food aid
Food for Peace Act
Genocide
Global Warming
Great Depression
Great Leap Forward
Green Revolution
Homosexuality
Hyperfeminism
Immigration
Industrial Revolution
Infertility
Integrated Pest Management
International debt crisis
International trade
Irish Potato Famine
Marriage
Marxism
Matlab Project (Bangladesh)
Middle Ages
misogyny
Montreal Ozone Protocol
natural selection
overlaying
polygyny
population control
population explosion
pronatalism
racism
Roe v. Wade
RU-486
selective breeding
Sexual Reformation Credo
soil depletion
spontaneous abortion
superconsumerism
sustainable development
Swidden agriculture
United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP)
United Nations Population Conferences
Warfare
Wet nursing
Wise-Use Movement
Witchcraft
Zero Population Growth (ZPG)

AFTER:
I got rid of everything except the following (some of which may also be questionable):
Aceh Declaration
Asko statement
Baby Boom
International Conference on Population and Development
Climate Change
Food for Peace Act
Global Warming
Great Depression
Great Leap Forward
Green Revolution
Industrial Revolution
International debt crisis
Irish Potato Famine
Middle Ages
Montreal Ozone Protocol
Roe v. Wade
United Nations Population Conferences
Wise-Use Movement

11benuathanasia
Jan. 11, 2012, 3:47 pm

It looks like someone was using the "events" field as a "tag" field

12Luchtpint
Aug. 22, 2015, 3:48 pm

What do you guys think of this ludicrous example ?

Event: Pandemic

https://www.librarything.com/work/12556618

BTW, I have noticed that all the Important Places and some Characters I inserted into CK for this page (which was ages ago) where deleted ? Curiously enough, the drop-down boxes still held the entries exactly as I entered them initially. (and yes, I re-entered those)

I am getting the impression some obnoxious idiot trolls are screwing around with other people's work and adding stupid entries into CK for the sake of it !

13mysterymax
Sept. 1, 2015, 7:43 am

I am getting the impression some obnoxious idiot trolls are screwing around with other people's work and adding stupid entries into CK for the sake of it !

Is there a fast way to check this on the books in your collection? Or do you have to check each one individually. I have tried to keep a really accurate catalog and don't want it messed up.

Also is there a way to remove tags that are completely wrong?

14lilithcat
Sept. 1, 2015, 8:53 am

>13 mysterymax:

Is there a fast way to check this on the books in your collection?

No way I know of.

In any case, junk in CK will not affect what is in your catalog.

Also is there a way to remove tags that are completely wrong?

Same here. Which is a good thing. If you could remove someone else's tags, they could remove yours. Again, this does not affect your data.

15hipdeep
Sept. 1, 2015, 10:00 am

Reiterating that Tags are different from CK entries, and for good reasons... but you can see some of the CK entries associated with your books by going to the "Stats/Memes" tab on the home page, and then on the left sidebar there are entries for Series, Awards, Characters, Places, and Events. (Also for Male or Female and Dead or Alive, if you want to look at those.)

16PhaedraB
Sept. 1, 2015, 12:08 pm

>13 mysterymax: No one can touch or change the data you have entered for your individual books.

CK is not at the book level, it is at the work level, which is the level at which all copies of the book are aggregated. CK is also something that could be changed by someone who does not have a copy of the book cataloged. Common Knowledge = Generally Known Stuff = Crowd-sourced Data. Sometimes an individual in the crowd is wrong, so that data can be changed by anyone.

The tags are an aggregate of what everyone who has cataloged a book have tagged it. In catalog view, you will only see your own tags.

Tags are very idiosyncratic. What seems completely off the mark to you still has significance to someone in their own catalog. Heck, I've tagged things Box This or Bin That, things that have no relevance to anyone else but is extremely useful to me. With aggregate (as opposed to crowd-sourced) information, we have no choice but to tolerate other people's quirks.

17Collectorator
Sept. 1, 2015, 12:39 pm

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Jul. 19, 2017, 11:31 pm

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19hipdeep
Jul. 21, 2017, 10:42 am

I am personally unhappy with the idea of events without relatively clear(-ish) start and end dates. I think you can make a pretty strong argument that the Industrial Revolution is a subject descriptor applied to a host of technological and social changes, but not "an event" in a meaningful sense itself. (See also "the Renaissance".)

And yet I see the potential value for works of technological or social history in talking about it like an event. That's one where I'd say reasonable people can disagree, and if someone is finding it valuable it's worth letting it be.

20cpg
Jul. 21, 2017, 12:00 pm

"To Clark, who teaches at the University of California at Davis, history's most important event was the Industrial Revolution." (Washington Post, Oct 31, 2007)

"The Industrial Revolution was arguably the most important event in (recent) history." (The Long Road to the Industrial Revolution, p. 1.)

"A New Perspective on the Industrial Revolution: The aim of this chapter is to discover how our interpretation of the beginning of modern economic growth changes as we alter our perspective of this fundamentally important event in the development of human society." (Was the Industrial Revolution Necessary?, p. 43.)

"The industrial revolution is the most important event in the development of the English speaking world since the 16th century." (Description of Industry: An Introduction to Economics, p. 85.)

21neverstopreading
Jan. 9, 2018, 11:57 am

>9 Collectorator:

What about: Virginity, Loss of?