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1Mithalogica
Bearbeitet: Jun. 29, 2013, 11:24pm

I have posted a few times in the group 'Dantisti' to try and revive it a bit, but seemingly to no avail. However, Dante seems as popular as ever, if not moreso, so perhaps a new group is needed. All are welcome, whether you know the Commedia in your sleep, or have just found an interest in the great Florentine through a school assignment, cultural reference, or even (sigh) via Dan brown's Inferno.

Please take a moment to introduce yourself in the Introduction thread; we'd love to know more about you!

2HarryMacDonald
Jul. 17, 2013, 12:05pm

OK, mi chiamano Goduardo. I have been reading Dante for half a century, having backed into a double-major in college. Had the privilege of studying then with Joseph Rossi and Alfred Galpin. More recently I have worked with the great art historianPhilipp Fehl, and have published a visionary prose work Harmony Junction which involves, among MANY other things, my life-long love-affair with Renaissance poetry, music, and art.

3Mithalogica
Jul. 18, 2013, 8:57pm

Harry or should I say Goddard: Your book looks fascinating! I'll have to see if I can track it down; is it in print, or eBook format?

*grin* I know how 'backing into' unexpected majors feels; it was much the same with me. Have you any favorite realms with in the Renaissance? I'm more of a Middle Ages gal myself, but I have a few 'old friends' in the Renaissance as well. Although I will admit, depending on how you and when you separate the two, some of them, such as Giotto and Fra Angelico, tend to straddle the line. And Machiavelli, of whom I'm inordinately fond, is not quite a poet...

I'm not directly familiar with either of your mentors, but from what I see here on LT, Dr. Fehl looks to have been an amazing mind to study with. I doubt you would know any of the scholars I studied Dante with, Dr. Thomas Van, Dr. Blake Beattie, and, indirectly, Arthur Slavin.

Dr. Van was an English professor who specialized in Chaucer, and ended up discovering Dante through the love of Italian (and/or a woman; I was never quite sure which, but he did compose some incredibly evocative lines in Italian...). His approach to the Commedia was based (not surprisingly) on never forgetting Dante the man—the lover, the courtier, the romantic and, on occasion, the ribald wit. Dr. Beattie never taught Dante per se, but I owe my rather profound appreciation of the nuances of medieval Christianity to him. And on that foundation, after all, the Commedia rests. And Dr. Slavin - well, he's just the most amazing mind I'ver ever met; I credit much of my ability to both read and think academically to him, to be honest. With him I was fortunate enough to study everything from St. Paul to Orwell, Ibsen to Machiavelli. Ironically, in was in Ibsen that I found a new reflection of Dante, by way of, of all things, Rodin....something else I'd be happy to discuss sometime, if you're interested.

And now I have blathered on entirely too much. Do pardon my tendency towards verbosity on those subjects about which I am most passionate....

4HarryMacDonald
Jul. 22, 2013, 12:59pm

Many thanks for the gracious and power-packed message of welcome. Owing perhaps to the recent (ahem) "improvements" on LT, I have only just now seen your note. Anyway, son stanco assai after the exchanges with Bruno in re Dante and music. It's time for you to chime-in. My book -- thanks for asking -- exists now only as, well, a book, no E-formats or any of that stuff. I am actually on my way back to the (Earthly) Harmony Junction, but once I'm back in Internet-land, I can help you find a copy, or else, should I experience an up-rush of benevolence, send you one. I suppose this would have been more appropriate as a Private Message, eppure at-least there are witnesses that I haven't made any improper advances, whatever may be alleged about forbidden advertising. Thanks again, in the fullness of time, all things connect to and through Dante. Tutti auguri, -- Goddard

5Mithalogica
Jul. 22, 2013, 7:21pm

Chimed I have, though I am but a novice in a topic in which you both are clearly masters. As to improper advances, pfft! What's a saucy wink betwixt friends in any case, and I certainly don't take an offer of assistance in locating a book I'm keen to read as "forbidden!' As to the welcome, the pleasure is all mine.

6AmourFou
Nov. 14, 2013, 2:21am

Fairly new at LT'ing and this is my first foray at joining a group. Not an academic, just a gob smacked admirer of the genius of Dante. I've read the entire Divine Comedy once (in English, no Italian here, sadly) and just finished a second reading of The Inferno. First time I read Dorothy Sayres' translation. This time I simultaneously read the Mandelbaum, Norton, Bergin and Hollander translations. It was an interesting journey but I still feel like I just skimmed the surface and need to begin again anew.

Nice to see that there are three other lovers of Dante here.

7Mithalogica
Jan. 1, 2014, 3:45pm

Amour,

Sorry I missed your message - end of the semester usually sees me buried in grading, so I don't get onto groups much. Thrilled to have you! Sadly, this group has not taken off as I might have hoped, but hope springs eternal, so I do hope you stay around. One never knows!

8matthewmason
Jan. 13, 2014, 3:52pm

>6 AmourFou: Ah, the Hollander -- I've had a somewhat love and hate relationship with this father/daughter duo, particularly when it comes to Paradiso. What a tome! I think that Robert Hollander wrote the extensive commentary, which in itself is a formidable soporific, and Jean produced the translation.

Just out of interest, has anyone read any Erich Auerbach on Dante?

9Mithalogica
Jan. 13, 2014, 3:58pm

I have the Dante: Poet of the Secular World, but have only had a chance to skim it. What do you think? (Or are you in the same boat?)

10matthewmason
Bearbeitet: Jan. 13, 2014, 4:27pm

It has been two years since I worked through Dante: Poet of the Secular World, and I would like to again. Auerbach has made deep and lasting additions to Dante studies (and comparative literature), and his prose is beautiful. If I pick up the work again (I'm thinking actually of audiobooking it this time), I will certainly rave about it here. :)

11AmourFou
Aug. 19, 2014, 6:19pm

matthewmason I always thought the Hollanders were husband and wife. They are father/daughter?

I find the Hollanders' notes for The Inferno to be the most cogent of all the translations I read, but I read the Sayres version of The Paradiso so will have to re-read the Hollander version.

12SaintSunniva
Dez. 12, 2014, 12:49am

I am trying to keep up with my book group which has a classics-based focus. The current read is Inferno...any translation. I thought I'd ask here for audio suggestions.