Spam reporting thread #30
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1henkl
PROCEDURES FOR REPORTING SPAM
Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:
-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.
-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.
Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors: http://www.librarything.com/about_authors.php
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post: http://www.librarything.com/topic/85810
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page: http://www.librarything.com/spam_works.php
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.
Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.
For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Spam#Procedures_for_flagging_and_repo....
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/HelpThing:Spam_works
(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)
Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:
-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.
-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.
Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors: http://www.librarything.com/about_authors.php
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post: http://www.librarything.com/topic/85810
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page: http://www.librarything.com/spam_works.php
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.
Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.
For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Spam#Procedures_for_flagging_and_repo....
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/HelpThing:Spam_works
(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)
42wonderY
It's been much too quiet.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/179749#
http://www.librarything.com/profile/kanaihya.lal
http://www.librarything.com/topic/179749#
http://www.librarything.com/profile/kanaihya.lal
10MarthaJeanne
>9 MDGentleReader: While that is a company, have they actually spammed anywhere?
OK, yes, I see them.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/158355#4827681
http://www.librarything.com/topic/179522#4827663
http://www.librarything.com/topic/173499#4827666
OK, yes, I see them.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/158355#4827681
http://www.librarything.com/topic/179522#4827663
http://www.librarything.com/topic/173499#4827666
11MDGentleReader
3 times on tablet, can't get link info for threads spammed
22MarthaJeanne
>21 Taphophile13: the member also started two other groups without active spam in them, but I flagged them.
52MarthaJeanne
>51 henkl: Gone now, but that was an amazing piece of prose. It looked like English, all the words were English, or at least almost English, but the whole didn't mean anything.
53Nicole_VanK
>52 MarthaJeanne:: Indeed. Almost worthy of inclusion in some book of nonsense
55lilithcat
The usual live-streaing c***:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/180133#
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Ature1984
https://www.librarything.com/topic/180133#
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Ature1984
58lilithcat
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180146# - I really don't want to click on the group name!
http://www.librarything.com/profile/jkdmhrg
http://www.librarything.com/profile/jkdmhrg
61Meredy
>60 MarthaJeanne: For my guidance, please: do you consider that one clear-cut, or does it fall into a gray area?
62MsMaryAnn
>60 MarthaJeanne: I flagged. I thought it was spam, especially the web site for the group.
63MarthaJeanne
I flagged both. He is certainly trying to point people both to his books and to that website.
I also note the group text: 'who are interested in getting into the business of dealing erotic ebooks.' Erotica is allowed. Selling it is not.
This sounds like more to me than just author spam. Maybe I'm being overly sensative. If so, staff can reverse it.
Also, one of the reasons it takes a few votes to do anything is so that one person alone doesn't have that power. We all need to judge for ourselves.
I also note the group text: 'who are interested in getting into the business of dealing erotic ebooks.' Erotica is allowed. Selling it is not.
This sounds like more to me than just author spam. Maybe I'm being overly sensative. If so, staff can reverse it.
Also, one of the reasons it takes a few votes to do anything is so that one person alone doesn't have that power. We all need to judge for ourselves.
64MsMaryAnn
>60 MarthaJeanne: And then there is this 'Group for members who enjoy erotic photos'. I had visions of posts with links to all kinds of "erotica", or worse, the posting of those images.
65MarthaJeanne
Posting those images is not allowed.
66lilithcat
He could have just joined the pretty active Erotica group.
79Yamanekotei
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180235
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180234
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180232
http://www.librarything.com/profile/dinga1949
I put his profile also because he's repeatedly doing it even though others warned him on his profile.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180234
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180232
http://www.librarything.com/profile/dinga1949
I put his profile also because he's repeatedly doing it even though others warned him on his profile.
812wonderY
Not going to click on the links, but I'm pretty sure this is spam.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180244#
http://www.librarything.com/profile/mijajkharap
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180244#
http://www.librarything.com/profile/mijajkharap
83Lyndatrue
>79 Yamanekotei: I actually put a private comment on lorannen's profile (I prefer not to send email), since the last comment made from her was that if he didn't quit, his account would be suspended. I did not "report for spam" since I prefer reserving that for actual spammers (although he really qualifies).
It's always the unsuccessful authors that seem to try this tactic (at least it seems that way).
It's always the unsuccessful authors that seem to try this tactic (at least it seems that way).
84lorannen
>83 Lyndatrue: Thanks. Account, suspended!
88MarthaJeanne
I can think of much better reasons to go to Jaipur.
98lilithcat
> 97
His post is gone now, but as an overenthusiastic author, his profile should not be flagged.
His post is gone now, but as an overenthusiastic author, his profile should not be flagged.
100lilithcat
But see the "rules": Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors: http://www.librarything.com/about_authors.php
I don't think he's been left a message. I've done that now, in a private comment.
I don't think he's been left a message. I've done that now, in a private comment.
101Lyndatrue
>99 2wonderY: Someone with more natural kindness than I should post a warning note on the profile. It might also be useful to send a notification of confused author to lorannen, since I don't think this problem is really that of a confused author. I looked on Amazon. This "book" was published on 9/5, and already has five, count 'em, five glowing, five star reviews (none of them verified purchases).
It's sad when the intellect of others is so terribly underestimated, especially by someone who's hoping we'll all go off and buy this. Ugh.
ETA: Also, lilithcat types faster than I do. ;-}
It's sad when the intellect of others is so terribly underestimated, especially by someone who's hoping we'll all go off and buy this. Ugh.
ETA: Also, lilithcat types faster than I do. ;-}
113lilithcat
Author unclear on the concept: http://www.librarything.com/topic/180389#
I'll drop her a private comment.
I'll drop her a private comment.
114Taphophile13
>113 lilithcat:
Also noticed this one:http://www.librarything.com/topic/180393
Also noticed this one:http://www.librarything.com/topic/180393
115MarthaJeanne
114Taphophile13Today, 12:13pm
>113 lilithcat: lilithcat:
Also noticed this one: http://www.librarything.com/topic/180393
Reply | More
>113 lilithcat: lilithcat:
Also noticed this one: http://www.librarything.com/topic/180393
Reply | More
121Lyndatrue
It's a post, in this thread.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180317#4843577
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Sekamp
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180317#4843577
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Sekamp
131henkl
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180451
http://www.librarything.com/profile/jenui
Very helpful, this jenui
http://www.librarything.com/profile/jenui
Very helpful, this jenui
175Yamanekotei
Funny! They didn't come for a Pirate Day! :-)
187Taphophile13
comes right out and says livestreamiing:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180761
http://www.librarything.com/profile/bgcimjung
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180761
http://www.librarything.com/profile/bgcimjung
189Taphophile13
"little to contribute" - another honest one"
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180759
http://www.librarything.com/profile/hedgedigi
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180759
http://www.librarything.com/profile/hedgedigi
193Yamanekotei
http://www.librarything.com/profile/PistouVelour
http://www.librarything.com/profile_reviews.php?view=PistouVelour
Very low key sales. But still spam.
http://www.librarything.com/profile_reviews.php?view=PistouVelour
Very low key sales. But still spam.
1952wonderY
>193 Yamanekotei: Not seeing those comments as spammy.
Oh wait. The link next to the stars takes you to his website. So, yes, spam.
Oh wait. The link next to the stars takes you to his website. So, yes, spam.
205MarthaJeanne
http://www.librarything.com/groups/studymbbsinabroad
http://www.librarything.com/profile/iosappmaker
And other groups, too
http://www.librarything.com/groups/achallsinchennai
http://www.librarything.com/groups/buytamilbooks
http://www.librarything.com/groups/draganddropappbuilde
http://www.librarything.com/groups/universityofnorthern
http://www.librarything.com/profile/iosappmaker
And other groups, too
http://www.librarything.com/groups/achallsinchennai
http://www.librarything.com/groups/buytamilbooks
http://www.librarything.com/groups/draganddropappbuilde
http://www.librarything.com/groups/universityofnorthern
209Meredy
Sometimes a spammer's work has been partially but not completely deleted--say, the post or group is gone, but the profile remains. From the profile alone, we can't actually tell if the account is a spammer.
In those cases, if the person who reported them here is a regular with a record of spam catching, I consider them to be a trusted source and I flag the profile anyway.
Is this the right thing to do? Do others do the same?
In those cases, if the person who reported them here is a regular with a record of spam catching, I consider them to be a trusted source and I flag the profile anyway.
Is this the right thing to do? Do others do the same?
210Lyndatrue
>209 Meredy: Every. Single. Time.
When the mighty spam hunters are making postings here, they always seem to specify when it's an "enthusiastic author" as opposed to a spammer, and I flag away if not specified. Heck, even *I* have made a couple of spam flagging posts, without bothering to specify they were spammers. I don't think I've ever reported the overexcited author type, but then, that (thankfully) doesn't happen a lot.
When the mighty spam hunters are making postings here, they always seem to specify when it's an "enthusiastic author" as opposed to a spammer, and I flag away if not specified. Heck, even *I* have made a couple of spam flagging posts, without bothering to specify they were spammers. I don't think I've ever reported the overexcited author type, but then, that (thankfully) doesn't happen a lot.
211MarthaJeanne
I only flag if I have seen the spam. All of us make mistakes at times. The purpose of requiring multiple flags is to act as a check on the first flaggers. Staff can always get the profiles if need be.
214amysisson
>209 Meredy:
That is exactly what I do.
Also, when I post here, I note whether it's a spammer (esp. the common live-streaming garbage) or an overenthusiastic author.
That is exactly what I do.
Also, when I post here, I note whether it's a spammer (esp. the common live-streaming garbage) or an overenthusiastic author.
215rybie2
Lately, about 5 spammers join LT every day to sell their wares by building profile pages that reek of links and sales hype, but they add no books or post spam talk so they are somewhat under the radar. Check the "recently added" profile photo page at http://www.librarything.com/gallery/recent to find such spammers (I just flagged 4 of them). Sometimes it takes a few days for the flagged spammers to get zapped, but maybe if more of us are flagging them, they'll go away faster.
216Meredy
>215 rybie2: Whoa--like this:
http://www.librarything.com/profile/mandonstore
I don't think I was aware of that feature.
http://www.librarything.com/profile/mandonstore
I don't think I was aware of that feature.
219abbottthomas
https://www.librarything.com/topic/180893
An identical post on another forum has already been flagged out.
An identical post on another forum has already been flagged out.
2202wonderY
>215 rybie2: like this one? http://www.librarything.com/profile/ScaffoldsAccess
It's obvious that's the only reason they joined. But what if they don't actively spam? Is their profile page allowed to have commerce materials?
It's obvious that's the only reason they joined. But what if they don't actively spam? Is their profile page allowed to have commerce materials?
223abbottthomas
>215 rybie2:, >220 2wonderY:
Does that sort of profile matter much? If they don't post anything will they appear anywhere unless particularly searched for? Hard to believe that they won't try something sooner or later, of course.
Does that sort of profile matter much? If they don't post anything will they appear anywhere unless particularly searched for? Hard to believe that they won't try something sooner or later, of course.
224MarthaJeanne
My feeling, too. Just the profile isn't very obnoxious (or effective) spamming. When the start doing something else, we'll get them. Unless, of course, what they do is enter an office library.
2272wonderY
>225 MarthaJeanne: I'd rather let the group members there decide whether it's spam.
229Taphophile13
livestreaming football
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180934
http://www.librarything.com/profile/feen1955
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180934
http://www.librarything.com/profile/feen1955
230Taphophile13
it's spelled football
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180938
http://www.librarything.com/profile/haddly
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180938
http://www.librarything.com/profile/haddly
233Taphophile13
"watch online" says it all
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180958
http://www.librarything.com/profile/findingfanny
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180958
http://www.librarything.com/profile/findingfanny
239lilithcat
Live streaming gibberish ("you will kow that will so close to you amn try now"):
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180985
http://www.librarything.com/profile/weikair400
http://www.librarything.com/topic/180985
http://www.librarything.com/profile/weikair400
245Taphophile13
joined today - reddit links
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181008
http://www.librarything.com/profile/zaxxamia
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181008
http://www.librarything.com/profile/zaxxamia
259gilroy
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181108
Overzealous author
Overzealous author
264MarthaJeanne
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181148
http://www.librarything.com/profile/hannah45865
This one has been up for an hour already, and I'm the first flagger!
http://www.librarything.com/profile/hannah45865
This one has been up for an hour already, and I'm the first flagger!
2682wonderY
note to self:
This thread title 'favorite books for babies' came up before:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181207#
http://www.librarything.com/profile/wound
This thread title 'favorite books for babies' came up before:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181207#
http://www.librarything.com/profile/wound
269MarthaJeanne
Oh, they are using 'favorite books for...' a lot. Who do they think they're kidding?
2702wonderY
Another serial spammer
favorite books of all time
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181209#
http://www.librarything.com/profile/atouth
favorite books of all time
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181209#
http://www.librarything.com/profile/atouth
271Taphophile13
overzealous author?
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181216
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181216
272Lyndatrue
>271 Taphophile13: After looking at the account, and noting the multiple flags on the review of the author's book (a review by the author...what a surprise...), I flagged the post. It's at least overzealous. Perhaps someone kinder than I might leave a note for the author, as well?
280MarthaJeanne
There's one in Author chat as well
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181292
http://www.librarything.com/profile/kirtisharma46
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181292
http://www.librarything.com/profile/kirtisharma46
283MsMaryAnn
favorite books for babies: live sreaming
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181297
http://www.librarything.com/profile/ctemend1987
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181297
http://www.librarything.com/profile/ctemend1987
291Taphophile13
>289 MarthaJeanne: and >290 MarthaJeanne:
also here but I can't flag it
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181322
also here but I can't flag it
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181322
292MarthaJeanne
>291 Taphophile13: Thanks. To flag you have to join the group. (But you can leave the group right afterwards.)
307abbottthomas
A group to flag: https://www.librarything.com/groups/kulangots
309abbottthomas
>308 Taphophile13: Can't flag the topic without joining - Can't join!
310Taphophile13
>309 abbottthomas:: I couldn't see how to join either but flagging the group as you suggested in 307 will probably do the trick.
ETA: Group now has 7 red flags and check out the tags that have been added!
ETA: Group now has 7 red flags and check out the tags that have been added!
327Taphophile13
leaked pictures on reddit
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181519
http://www.librarything.com/profile/niceflod
ETA: Thank you, LT, for deleting this so quickly. I value others' privacy as much as my own.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181519
http://www.librarything.com/profile/niceflod
ETA: Thank you, LT, for deleting this so quickly. I value others' privacy as much as my own.
328Meredy
>327 Taphophile13: Just wanted to acknowledge and support the sentiment.
339Taphophile13
links to youtube and amazon
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181570#
http://www.librarything.com/profile/MariccaFoxDarling
she might be hawking her own book but I won't click on the links to verify
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181570#
http://www.librarything.com/profile/MariccaFoxDarling
she might be hawking her own book but I won't click on the links to verify
343MsMaryAnn
>339 Taphophile13: Hi there Taph. I didn't see the post but the profile is still available http://www.librarything.com/profile/MariccaFoxDarling
Did you flag the profile? I trust your judgment and will flag as well.
Did you flag the profile? I trust your judgment and will flag as well.
344Taphophile13
>343 MsMaryAnn: I think she is an overzealous author (technically not flagable) but it appears that she joined only to promote her book. It might be better just to leave a message on her profile page that the proper place to do that is the http://www.librarything.com/groups/hobnobwithauthors group.
345MsMaryAnn
>344 Taphophile13: Didn't flag profile but left message on profile instead.
347Louve_de_mer
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181472#4876556
http://www.librarything.com/topic/173703#4876571
And a lot other messages in different groups from http://www.librarything.com/profile/odudu
http://www.librarything.com/topic/173703#4876571
And a lot other messages in different groups from http://www.librarything.com/profile/odudu
349Mr.Durick
I've flagged all the ones I've seen. I don't have the spirit to report them all, but I don't think they'll remain unmarked for long.
Robert
Robert
350stellarexplorer
>349 Mr.Durick: As have I. This spammer is a prolific nuisance.
351MarthaJeanne
The message I tested was marked that that user has been removed.
356Taphophile13
couldn't even create links correctly
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181611
http://www.librarything.com/profile/shawonshawon390
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181611
http://www.librarything.com/profile/shawonshawon390
361Yamanekotei
I assume this is a same person as 329, 330, and 336.
http://www.librarything.com/profile/voovoovmia
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181643
http://www.librarything.com/profile/voovoovmia
http://www.librarything.com/topic/181643
380lilithcat
This page has gone far beyond the number of posts it should have prior to continuing it, and is starting to take forever to load.
So I've continued it here: http://www.librarything.com/topic/181719
Please do not post in this thread any longer.
Thanks.
So I've continued it here: http://www.librarything.com/topic/181719
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