Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #75


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Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #75

Nov. 5, 2016, 2:37pm

THIS THREAD is for LibraryThing Members, and especially for “beginners,” to ask help and learn about combining and separating specific LibraryThing Works.
-- If a book is combined with other, very different books.
-- If a book won’t combine with others just like it.
-- If problems with any Work are overwhelming, or maybe you just don’t have time.


-- Please give Titles, Authors, hyperlinks, and other information that will help.
-- If you post multiple requests at once, please number each group. Examples:

“Please combine:
#1: The Story of the Life of You
#2: The Story of the Life of Everyone Else

-- Ask about sets of Works or Series pages, ask for opinions, or ask for help with specific languages, subjects, etc.; but please be brief.
-- Please do not give Search pages, Author pages, or groups of “possibles,” unless you have a specific question.
-- “Someone will be with you shortly.” Most requests are handled by our fellow LibraryThing Members, not by staff.
-- If you add to a post, please use “ETA:” or “EDIT:” to show what’s new.
-- Please note when a request is “DONE.”


-- If two works have more than 200 records each, LibraryThing staff may need to do the combining. Please post these requests to: .
-- For information and discussion, but not problems, please see the Combiner’s Group Information, FAQ & Discussion Thread: .
-- For the related wiki page, please see: .
-- Please note Tim’s Guidelines for Proper Etiquette for Contacting Members about Book Records at ; if you contact another Member, please use Private Comment.
-- When this thread reaches 200 posts, please do not post here but start a new Thread. Threads under 200 posts load faster and are easier to navigate. Please copy these notes as post #1 of the new thread. Thank you.

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Nov. 5, 2016, 5:57pm

I have no idea how to change this, but the last book A More Perfect Heaven by Sobel belongs with the first set of books by Dava Sobel. She's a scientific writer.

Nov. 5, 2016, 6:06pm

>3 raidergirl3: Over on the right is a link to 'edit the division. Change unknown to the right number then check that divided author is chosen and save the page.

Nov. 5, 2016, 6:06pm

Bearbeitet: Nov. 5, 2016, 7:34pm, Gulliver's Travels to Lilliput and Brobdingnag has a bunch of unabridged copies mixed in with it which need to seperated and combined with Gulliver's Travels. Despite what the disambiguation notice says about Signet editions, I know at least one of them (ISBN 0451527321) is the complete text because I am currently looking at it.

Nov. 5, 2016, 7:34pm

Nov. 6, 2016, 8:20am

Not sure how this works. Please fix if you can.

Author Norman Cameron (2) has 8 works here:

He is also J. Norman Cameron and the page above says "Works have been aliased into J. Norman Cameron."

But author J. Norman Cameron only has 6 of these 8 works here:

These pages should match. I'm not sure what is the root cause of the difference or how to fix.

note: I just updated one work where he is the translator (The Gods of the Greeks), so perhaps there is a delay in updating that particular work.

Nov. 6, 2016, 9:38am

>8 dchaikin:
I'm not sure why that's happening. A weird one. I suspect there is a bug there. I've never seen a delay when it comes to aliased works showing up, so I don't think that's the problem. Anybody else have an idea?

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Nov. 8, 2016, 6:04am

Yesterday, I added Red Dust by Gillian Slovo

but my copy does not show on the author page

There is also a Slovak-German dictionary that surely doesn’t belong there:

Could you fix this, please?

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>11 MissWatson: The primary author was missed in your copy, I recalculated the authors and now your copy appears on the author's page.
I don't know how to fix the Slovak-German dictionary, because is an anonymous work under the supervision of Vladimír Müller.

Bearbeitet: Nov. 8, 2016, 7:57am has it listed with that author. (Not or although their entries are different.)

Nov. 8, 2016, 9:07am

>12 Luisali: Thank you!
>13 MarthaJeanne: How strange...

Nov. 12, 2016, 11:12am

Nov. 13, 2016, 5:28am

The Vintage edition is a revised version of the Picador edition, and has 21 stories to the others 36. Is there any reason I shouldnt separate them & leave disambiguation notices? Cheers.

Nov. 13, 2016, 12:16pm

>18 PitcherBooks: I think I have them all.

Nov. 15, 2016, 3:53am

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Nov. 15, 2016, 9:17am

Hello! I've just joined this group, and may I make suggestions for splitting Hitchcock?
1- Alfred = I believe all the Danish titles are for his short story collections
2. Mark (a religious author who writes on Biblical prophecies)
3. Susan Tyler (literary and religious history)

Nov. 15, 2016, 9:58am

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>17 bluepiano: I'd vote for separate & disambiguate, but then I do that kind of thing myself ... . Maybe consider adding contents?

Nov. 16, 2016, 6:05pm

>20 Collectorator:, >21 guyalice: I've edited the Author or combined those that I can account for; there are four left that I'm unsure of. Neither WorldCat nor Amazon recognize them, and a LibraryThing site search only turns up the single Work record. Perhaps somebody who knows something more about "Hitchcocks," these Works, or the Members whose records they are, can help allocate and recombine the rest. Thank you.

Nov. 16, 2016, 6:38pm

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Nov. 16, 2016, 6:39pm

>24 jasbro: I got one more, and highly suspect that the two English language CDs are by Mark Hitchcock but have not been able to confirm that.

Nov. 17, 2016, 1:39pm

This singleton work

appears to be the same as this one

but unlike with other such cases that I've encountered there's nothing under Potential Work Combinations and I am unsure how to combine otherwise.

Thanks for any help you can give!

Nov. 17, 2016, 1:44pm

The first thing you have to notice is that the singleton work lacks an author. You can add that in about half-way down the work page, and then re-calculate (re-set) the page. Then you go to the author page and you can combine from there.

You try now. Ask for further help if needed.

Nov. 17, 2016, 1:56pm

Thank you so much for teaching me how to tackle this! I followed your very clear directions and have now properly combined the singleton into the other work. I had not even noticed there was no author set, since the author was included in the title. Now I know to make that one of the first things I look for.

Nov. 17, 2016, 2:03pm

>29 rosalita: Great! I'm glad.

Nov. 18, 2016, 7:54am

>23 jasbro: Thanks. I had gone on to do exactly that, though as I know contents of one edition only don't think I'll bother with them. But should I want to list contents of a book in future, how would I go about it? Very occasionally that might be a helpful thing to have on the page. Cheers.

Nov. 19, 2016, 6:42am

>31 bluepiano: I'm not aware of any really reliable way to verify contents apart from looking at an actual copy of the Work. often lists contents, but we have to be sure the WorldCat record is in fact for the LibraryThing Work we're dealing with (they're not always). Amazon's "Look Inside" feature, and Google Books also can sometimes give images of contents, or confirm that a specific edition (again, not necessarily the one we're looking for) does or doesn't contain something in particular. It can be a puzzle, and puzzling sometimes. I'm interested to know if there are other resources that Combiners find useful on this point. Thanks to you all!

Nov. 19, 2016, 8:46am

>32 jasbro: Oh, sorry, I thought you'd meant that there was a special place for table of contents on CK for a book.

As for finding them, academic publishers will often have an option to view contents page for a book. Fiction anthologies, I dunno but I bless the occasional amazon customer who lists them in a review.

Nov. 19, 2016, 8:56am

Despite very clear disambiguation notices, someone combined the Latin edition of "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets" as well as its catch-all for works without ISBN. Would be grateful if somone had time to fix! Thanks in advance!

Nov. 20, 2016, 1:27pm

>33 bluepiano: Early on, I put a few lists of contents directly in the Disambiguation Notice field, then decided that Book Description is likely the more suitable place. Since then, I've tried to direct attention from DN to BD when I have something to offer and it seems warranted. As ever, I welcome feedback or correction if I'm wrong. Thanks!

Nov. 21, 2016, 7:27am

>35 jasbro: I've been known to post story titles in the Book Description box for anthologies. It'd be a nice feature added if there was a spot specifically for this, and for posting online edition links.

Nov. 22, 2016, 1:51am

135454873 is not published by Graphic Revolve
it is published by Stone Arch adapted by Martin Powell, Title: Alice in Wonderland (Classic Fiction)

Can you separate the above record from the Graphic Revolve?

Can you mark as graphic novel, adapted by Martin Powell?

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>38 Bettesbooks: Graphic Resolve is a Stone Arch series, not a publisher. This appears to be the same work.

Nov. 25, 2016, 12:27pm

For some reason, the main entry for the catch-all Brontë Sisters entry is Christine Alexander.

How to fix?
Thanks in advance!

Nov. 27, 2016, 5:00am

>40 leselotte: This seems to be fixed now; thanks!

Nov. 28, 2016, 3:17am

I came across this entry with no author name or informing info but there are 31 copies and 2 ratings:
The Wild Girl
and assumed due to the tags that it might be
The Wild Girl by Kate Forsyth

but when I began to combine it, it came up as a video recording.

Not sure what it is but it should be identified as it has been catalogued 31 times.

Bearbeitet: Nov. 28, 2016, 3:37am

There is just one editions marked video recording. Looking at the tags there are at least a few kindle editions. It's probably safe to combine with the main work.

I would add the author as the primary author in the other authors section and combine from her author page.

ETA: perhaps since the video recording tagged one is a single edition you could separate it out and see in the member's catalog if their edition is a different work.

Nov. 28, 2016, 3:37am

>42 avatiakh: There is no way of telling what that is. I checked a few entries in the catalogues, and they didn't even have a source listed. All we really know is that 31 times someone has entered that title without an author or ISBN. One of the entries is listed as a video recording.

Nov. 28, 2016, 3:39am

MarthaJeanne makes a better point. I'm obviously not yet fully awake.

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There are several books on LT with that title. I don't think this should be combined with any single one of those. There is no way of knowing even if all of these are the same.

I've added a disambiguation notice.

Nov. 28, 2016, 3:47am

Thanks, I just thought I'd mention it here because of the 31 times it's been added to the catalog.

Nov. 28, 2016, 4:24am

The members whose libraries I looked at all joined early this year. This is probably related to problems with Shelfari imports.

Nov. 30, 2016, 10:52am

Not good at combining, so I'll point this one out; pretty sure these are the same work:

Nov. 30, 2016, 10:58am

>49 Cecrow: Done. That was suggested on the edition page.

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Turning once again to an old post (, all of "Plutarch; Goodwin," "Gregorius N. Pseudo-Plutarch; Bernardakis," and "Gregorius N. Plutarch; Bernardakis" are now done, with "Plutarch" as the sole author, and the respective Editors identified as secondary authors on some editions, as applicable. If you're familiar with Plutarch's Works, please take a look to see which of them we might now be combine. Thank you!

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I've been trying to reduce clutter, and found one of my favorite old pamphlets, from long ago.

I realized, when I searched on LT, that my own copy predated the others I found here. Note that John Poland probably never wrote anything other than this pamphlet (and I wish his last name was less common, since it's very hard to find him).

There's three different works listed, but I suspect they're all the same. My own has the identical words as the one published later, as the "The Quick and Easy Lawrence Slide Rule Instruction Book" (and differs only in an addition of some tiny introduction, and a brief bit at the end). I can't decide on whether they should be combined, or not. I'm quite sure that the book listed as "Simple Rules for using the Slide Rule" is identical to the Lawrence version (note that it's listed at a subtitle, and is listed as the title inside the pamphlet):

I'd combine them myself, but I don't trust my dexterity at this time of year (I've quit flagging covers for that reason).

ETA: I just now did it myself (Dec 10, 2016).

Dez. 8, 2016, 12:13pm

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I feel like I ought to know how to do this, but please combine:

Authorship is difficult with the Hanshews because Mary (his wife) and Hazel (his daughter) kept attributing works to / including as co-author Thomas W. Hanshew years after he died, and he is often listed as the only author when either or both of the others were the "real" author.

Dez. 8, 2016, 10:10pm

>55 lyzard: They're done.

Dez. 9, 2016, 3:47pm

Thank you!

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>60 Ameise1: Done.

>59 Ameise1: Done.

>58 Ameise1: Seems to be done, too.

Dez. 10, 2016, 1:54pm

I just did the combining I'd requested in >52 Lyndatrue: (and edited it to note this).

Dez. 10, 2016, 2:06pm

>61 MarthaJeanne: Thanks so much :-)

Dez. 14, 2016, 3:33am

Looking at authors, I found one that had combination issues* -- with bonus Chinese characters. Please help if you can?

Plus this suggested author to combine with:

*as so many of us do

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>64 karenb: Is that better?

Dez. 19, 2016, 7:20am

I've been working on Long Walk to Freedom, which had the heavily (550pg less) truncated illustrated abridgment combined in with the very different main work. I've pulled out as much as I can and recombined but these below need to be combined into the same work and I can't immediately get them to appear on an editions page to let me do it. Anyone fancy having a stab? I have to step out for a bit so I can't fiddle.

Dez. 20, 2016, 12:48pm

>66 klarusu: Done. Thre is an edition with ISBN 0316857874 listed with Long Walk to Freedom. I didn't separate it, because the Dutch title is at odds with the ISBN.

Dez. 20, 2016, 1:58pm

>67 Luisali: Thanks!

Dez. 22, 2016, 8:50pm

Please combine:

This is an anthology, and Guy Wetmore Carryl is one of the collected authors: can he be removed as "the" author?

Dez. 22, 2016, 11:30pm

Dez. 23, 2016, 4:18pm

>67 Luisali: if you mean Vejen til frihed that's a nordic language

Dez. 25, 2016, 9:11am

>70 europhile:

Thank you!

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I combined "Water and Fire", "Dessicate", and "Leya" which are all the same book by Bonnie Ferrante. However, I can't get Leya to be the dominate book as the others were review/initial copies which are discontinued. Please help.

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Bonnie Ferrante

I have set all thee titles as Alternate Titles and written a Disambiguation notice to prevent them from being reseparated. Usually it is better to wait and let the numbers decide which is the prefered title. It would be possible to set a Canonical Title if you feel strongly about it. (See Common Knowledge on the work page.)

I also did a bit more combining on the author page, and created a series for Dawn's End.

Dez. 27, 2016, 3:42am

>65 jasbro:

So they really are all one author? I was trying to figure that out but cannot read the non-roman characters.

Dez. 28, 2016, 3:15pm

Please combine:

Note: Title page identifies author as Cecil Sinclair rather than Scottish Record Office. There is a preface written by Athol Murray, keeper of the records of Scotland.

Dez. 28, 2016, 3:30pm

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Rudolph the red nosed reindeer by Johnny Marks (who wrote the song, not the original book)

0 copy editions

BTW, the original is sweet. I hadn't seen it before. Quite different.

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Dez. 30, 2016, 10:04am

Looks like someone's handled >78 MarthaJeanne: now.

Dez. 30, 2016, 10:06am

>81 MarthaJeanne: Thanks so much :-)

Dez. 31, 2016, 12:50am

Would someone like to help me deal with the mess that is H. L. Mencken's The American Language books?

The Fourth Edition has two supplements. Some editions apparently bundle the two supplements together, some bundle one or both supplements with the main volume.

There should, it seems to me, be at least five works, and there largely are, as you can see from

- The original, which went through four editions from 1919 to 1936,
- Supplement I to the 4th Edition, 1945,
- Supplement II, 1948,
- the two Supplements together,
- There's also an abridged collection,, which appears properly disambiguated.

It appears there are a number of copies that combine all three into one volume, which seems unlikely to me -- based on my copies of the three independent volumes, an omnibus edition should be about the size of an Unabridged Dictionary -- but if it exists it should i suppose be a different work. At any rate, there's an awful lot of original + supplement(s) in with the original, and it seems to me they should be separated out---if people want to regard the three-volume collection as a single thing, that seems to me it should be a separate work to the three separate volumes (which were published over a period of twelve years and are not (always) sold as a unit).

Halp! Please
- check my logic? Does this make sense and seem right to you?
- help me actually make it happen? It's been a while since I did much of this, but it looks like separating out all the volume I + supplement(s) works has to be done individually, in which case there's going to be quite a bit of work involved, as there's a _bunch_ of them.

thanks, y'all. this has been bugging -- and daunting -- me for _years_. Much love to anyone who can help straighten this stuff -- or me -- out at last....

Dez. 31, 2016, 2:49am

>84 infinitebuffalo: Your thinking is right. Also that each 'edition' has to be separated and recombined.

My advice is to separate an edition, then open it in a new tab before going back to the original editions page. Once you have a few done you can start to combine. If you don't open tabs for each until it is combined into your new work it is easy to lose a few.

Jan. 1, 2017, 12:22pm

Judgement please.

The 'Pearl-poet' aka the 'Gawain-poet' only wrote 4 poems -- Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, Pearl, Patience, and Purity (aka Cleanness). So any collection called the Works or Complete Works of the Gawain/Pearl-poet includes these four and no more; and any collection that contains these four is a 'complete works' of this writer.

However, on the Pearl-poet's page, the Penguin edition of the Works of the Gawain-poet appears to have been meticulously separated from Charles Moorman's edition of the works of the Gawain-poet

I don't think we grant Penguin editions the 'Norton exception'? Of course the Penguin edition has an intro and some annotations, etc -- as does Moorman's edition (and as does almost any scholarly edition of a canonical work). I don't own the Penguin but I see no indication (on Amazon or Worldcat) that it contains an overload of related materials a la Norton. Both the Penguin and the Moorman are in the original Middle English, not translations.

So as far as I can tell these should all be combined into one work. But I want to 'do no harm' so I'm asking...

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No point in linking to main/editions pages as the problem doesn't show there--If you search for The Ruins of Paris by Jacques Reda, the result is a listing showing Reda as editor & not as he should be author. Obviously a predictive spelling muck-up which I noticed only because I've the book on a list and while it's not a serious problem it would be nice to correct it. But how?


Jan. 3, 2017, 9:29am

>87 bluepiano:
That's because it's set that way in Other Authors. If 'redacteur' is incorrect you can go in and edit it away.

Jan. 7, 2017, 10:42am

Thanks for your suggestion, >86 Crypto-Willobie:.

Given the relevant facts, all of which it seems you kindly provided, I'd likely have combined the Penguin and Moorman editions without hesitation. The one other consideration I might give is whether the seperator offered any Disambiguation Notice. I'll sometimes (often?) do that, even if only to note "I'm unsure where this goes" or "It's unclear whether this belongs with that."

I'm interested to see if other Combiners have a different take and better insight.

Jan. 7, 2017, 11:43am

>89 jasbro:
To tell you the truth, since I got no responses after a week -- until yours -- I was on the verge of just doing it.

I see no disambig notices on either work page. I suspect it's the result of the 'sorting into piles' instinct -- something I quite understand, but which in tis case doesn't jibe with LT work protocol.

Since you've reopened the case I'll wait a bit to see if anyone else salutes...

Jan. 7, 2017, 9:22pm

Is there a better way to get my new copy of Njál's Saga
to combine with the rest of Njal's Saga ( other than attempting to drag it out of the horror of the unsorted Anonymous author bucket?

I've had to manually enter it anyway, so I am happy to mess with the entry as necessary, but getting it to combine has exceeded my dated bag of tricks. Is there by any chance a way I can enter the Anonymous author to get it to automatically group with the Norse Sagas anonymous? Because that would be sweet.

Jan. 8, 2017, 8:18am

Sorry, I messed up. I came upon the page for the American P ... Association. It had combination issues, so without thinking I deleted the canonical name. Only this makes all entries on that page American Psychological Society. Didn't intend that! But now I can't find the correct place to put the canonical name anymore. Help!

Thanks in advance, and again: sorry!

Jan. 8, 2017, 8:29am

>92 leselotte: No, you didn't mess up. Whatever canonical name was there was also wrong for most things on that page.

The problem is people who enter the author of their books as Association, American P... Author names are set to be 20 characters long, so they aren't differentiated after the P. The split authors each have canonical names.

Jan. 8, 2017, 9:05am

>91 melannen: Done. If you go to the Disambiguation page, you can assign works to the different authors, using "edit the division" link on the right side.

Jan. 8, 2017, 11:05am

>92 leselotte:
It's ok. I replaced the canonical name (MarthaJeanne, the canonical name is/was set to "Association, American P..." precisely because else it has that display weirdness that lesolette discovered, and no, the individual splits don't necessarily have canonicals). It's really non-obvious to set the canonical name for such disambiguation pages. You have to click the "49 more" link under CK, then another language, then English, then you can set it. I also put in my boilerplate disambiguation message for such pages. Hopefully it looks better now.

Jan. 8, 2017, 11:08am

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Thanks! I was afraid to even try to load that page once I saw 11,000 unsorted works but it looks like you're on it!

Jan. 8, 2017, 5:08pm

Jan. 8, 2017, 5:16pm

Jan. 8, 2017, 5:53pm

Thanks again. :)

Jan. 8, 2017, 9:13pm

What is the best way to add both xxx (1) and xxx (2) as authors of the same book? As both authors are needed, the usual process of assigning the work to one of the distinct authors is inadequate. I have experimented, and have reached a rather messy solution for Strauss: spectacular classics , by using additional links with canonical names for Johann Strauss I and Johann Strauss II . Can anyone do this more elegantly, and explain how it should be done?

Jan. 9, 2017, 3:35am

Thank you everyone for your replies to >92 leselotte:!

Jan. 9, 2017, 2:15pm

>101 kleh:

You may want to make both of them "Primary" authors. And that's the best you can do I am afraid...

Jan. 9, 2017, 7:22pm

I have continued the work that someone else has started on Mark Cheverton's Gameknight999 page.

I would appreciate a more experienced person:

1) Looking over what I did and checking it for errors
2) Deciding whether the Spanish editions should be combined with their English counterparts
3) Deciding whetner the Box Set get a placement within the list (They aren't currently listed and there are at least two?) and how to list their book titles on the right side of the screen - someone else did this on a Rainbow Magic Page, but I only see one of the boxed sets listed bow and don't know how to add the other(s)
4) Should the list of sets also be listed on the Author's page? The organization didn't carry over and it's a big jumble.

Thanks - starting to combine / edit series again after many years. Need tutoring. :)

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Jan. 17, 2017, 5:14pm

I've just read this book We Who Are About To... by Joanne Russ

and I think it's the same book but a different edition as this one but I'm wary of just combining them in case it's the wrong step to make - does the fact that this new edition has new introductions by other people mean it should stay separate? Can someone offer me any advice on this?

Jan. 17, 2017, 5:18pm

No, intros don't keep works separate. Combined.

Jan. 17, 2017, 5:19pm

>109 .Monkey.: Thank you

Jan. 17, 2017, 5:20pm

No, a new introduction is not a reason to keep them separate - that's where "Secondary author, some editions" come into play if you care to add it. :) And from the looks of it someone already combined them.

Jan. 20, 2017, 4:41pm

Can someone please have a look at these two, they should be combined).
Deborah Install - A Robot in the Garden
English original
German translation


Jan. 20, 2017, 4:45pm

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>113 Collectorator: I tried, but didn't manage because for the German version there was no autor indicated, so no suggestions of possible combinations came up. I didn't know I could add both to the work bench and then do it that way. I'll keep that in mind, thank you!

And it seems like someone quickly updated the works, now everything's fine. Thank you, whoever it was!

Jan. 20, 2017, 9:38pm

I just used the Workbench for the first time. What a great feature.

Jan. 23, 2017, 6:33am

I am having trouble with a series. When I tried to combine two works by Nicolas Remin, a warning appeared to read the series notice. Apparently there are two, one which lists all books in this series:

the other only the first in the series

Where would I find the series notice in question, and what should I do?

Thank you!

Bearbeitet: Jan. 23, 2017, 7:29am

The series info is in the Series Common Knowledge field. Apparently there's a bad entry there. You can delete that one easily yourself.

ETA: look in the german CK.

Jan. 23, 2017, 8:30am

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>118 MissWatson: yw. You may want to look at the translations on his author page for more candidates for combining.

Jan. 23, 2017, 10:46am

>119 JerryMmm: I got the series cleared up, but there's still a warning when I try to combine works. Would it help to unify (or delete) the canonical titles?

Jan. 23, 2017, 10:52am

>120 MissWatson: Yes, you now get a warning about various possibilities. This is to make people double check before combining. The combining still works the same way.

Jan. 23, 2017, 11:30am

>120 MissWatson: yes, it's just a new extra check. If you're sure, go ahead and combine.

Jan. 23, 2017, 12:49pm

>121 MarthaJeanne: >122 JerryMmm: Thank you both, I didn't want to mess things up.

Jan. 24, 2017, 11:51pm

>65 jasbro: jasbro

OK, I've separated all the authors with non-English characters out again. This time, I'll be explicit:

IF (and only if) YOU CAN READ CHINESE/JAPANESE CHARACTERS, please look at the following authors to see IF they are the same. And if any ARE the same, please combine them accordingly. I think that a common title plus joint works only add to the confusion.

Jan. 25, 2017, 5:32am

Anyone want to tackle ? There's (fortunately) only a handful of editions but, it's multiple volumes/editions all combined into one work (not even sure if it exists as a single work), and I don't have the patience to try to sort out what's what.

Jan. 25, 2017, 3:16pm

>125 .Monkey.: Done all the obvious ones, along with some other works by the same author.

Jan. 28, 2017, 7:05am

Jan. 28, 2017, 7:17am

Jan. 30, 2017, 8:25am

I went to look at Antonio Garrido's author page and saw a few stray copies of his book The corpse reader, so I went ahead and combined them. The result is that the book now appears as The Last Command by Timothy Zahn. Will separating them rectify matters?

Jan. 30, 2017, 9:33am

>130 MissWatson: Separated.

Jan. 30, 2017, 11:20am

>131 MarthaJeanne: Thank you so much!

Feb. 2, 2017, 11:58am

Should these really be combined with the novel The Round House, Erdrich?

Native American Literature Course Pack (Includes: Ghost Singer, The Round House, The Plague of Doves, Manifest Manners, Chancers, Indian Killer, Last Standing Woman, and Wynema)/Louise Erdrich, Gerald Vizenor, Sherman Alexie, Winona LaDuke, & S. Alice Callahan Anna Lee Walters/ISBN 0062065246 (120 copies separate)

Native American Literature Course Pack (Includes: Ghost Singer, The Round House, The Plague of Doves, Manifest Manners, Chancers, Indian Killer, Last Standing Woman, and Wynema)/Louise Erdrich/ISBN 0062065246 (no current copies separate)

I can fix it, I just need confirmation it needs separating.

Bearbeitet: Feb. 2, 2017, 12:02pm

No, they should not be combined.

Feb. 3, 2017, 8:35am

>133 lesmel:, >134 AnnieMod: Agreed; thanks!

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>136 cthulhuslibrarian:

Would you like to try on your own with the new workbench or would you like me to do it?
Look at the bottom right side of the page on both titles. There is a new link "Add work to workbench". Press that - now they are visible in a single page to allow combination :)

Let me know if you would prefer if someone here does it.

Feb. 5, 2017, 3:04pm

I'm going to quit before I get into more trouble. I noticed that there were two separate James Donovans out there (one James B. Donovan, and the other without). They were both listed authors of a seminal work first written in the sixties, by the lawyer who was deeply involved in the defense of Rudolf Abel, and then the complicated prisoner exchange of Able for Francis Gary Powers (and a grad student who'd strayed across the Berlin Wall). Hey (I said to myself), I should fix that.

It would have been better if I'd first examined more closely the other works attributed to James (no B) Baldwin. Since the author I was interested in passed away in 1970, I'm REAL sure he wasn't writing any hokey western novel (sorry if you like that sort of thing).

Since the book in question has him listed with the "B" I'd guess that at the very least they ought to be separated out, and a disambiguation added on.

I'm quite sure that James B. Donovan only wrote the book in question. I also have NO idea who that picture belongs to, but it was there before I combined them.

Yes, this is probably simple to fix. I just don't trust me to do it.


Feb. 5, 2017, 6:31pm

There's an explicit do not combine disambiguation notice for these two Bernard Cornwell works and (italian translation)
Now, while the italian editor did split books 2 and 3 of the trilogy in two and those should be different works, the first one is a straight up translation so it should be combined right?

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>137 AnnieMod:
Thank you, I didn't know about that feature! That makes things a lot easier!

Feb. 5, 2017, 7:25pm

>139 Matteocalosi: If you are sure there was no fancy splitting involved for the book 1 as well go ahead.

Feb. 5, 2017, 10:09pm

>140 cthulhuslibrarian:
It is newish :). Let us know if some help is still needed :)

Bearbeitet: Feb. 7, 2017, 8:36am

combined two identical books via the new workbench. Thanks!

Feb. 8, 2017, 6:39am

Somehow I can't make sense of this entry:

Probably has to do with the canonical name being set. This has a stranded link (and I might or might not have accidentally deleted a link, thinking this was the same link on two different pages - sorry!). Then there's a weird split somewhere, too.
Too complicated for me - please help! Thanks!

Feb. 8, 2017, 7:20am

This book

by Rosa Brooks

wants to combine with All the Pretty Horses by Cormac McCarthy, presumably because of a shared isbn.

Can this be disentangled and nevered?

Wrong book description was introduced.

Feb. 8, 2017, 8:19am

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Feb. 8, 2017, 9:19am

>146 Collectorator: Looks good, thanks a lot!

Feb. 8, 2017, 9:39am

Are derivative works supposed to be combined with the original? If not, I can fix it.

Wuthering Heights: The Wild and Wanton Edition/Bronte, Emily/ISBN 1440511306 (1 copy separate)
(this is really Beth Williamsom & Emily Bronte)

Bearbeitet: Feb. 8, 2017, 10:02am

>149 lesmel: No. They need to be separated. And presumably combined elsewhere.

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>145 2wonderY:

Unfortunately, you can't "never" potential work combinations, though it has been suggested. Nor can you flag data like a bogus ISBN as bad, though Tim himself has suggested it. All you can do is flag the cover as incorrect for the work, but that doesn't really do much.

It won't be long until someone comes along and combines "How Everything Became War and the Military Became Everything: Tales from the Pentagon by Rosa Brooks" with "How Everything Became War and the Military Became Everything: Tales from the Pentagon by Rosa Brooks":

I'd do it myself if I stumbled across it.

Bearbeitet: Feb. 16, 2017, 2:44pm

I've done what I can, but someone with both Czech and German might find more to combine.

Feb. 16, 2017, 3:06pm

>152 MarthaJeanne: I got a Polish one sorted out. And I can see at least one Slovak one there as well - but nothing else that matches the others. Will see if I can find something in the Czech sources to connect translations...

Feb. 16, 2017, 3:15pm

The Wikipedia page might be helpful if you can read the Czech. But since everything is keyed to English, I found it hard to use.

Feb. 16, 2017, 5:07pm

>154 MarthaJeanne:

Yeah, I can read Czech (and Polish and Slovak) enough for that. I will look at it after work today - it just need a bit longer than I had when I looked at it.

Feb. 17, 2017, 2:03am

I came across this work and was confused why the top just read by 'Anonymous' if most of the editions have Simon Armitage:

I'm not familiar with The Death of King Arthur, but I'm thinking this work should probably have Armitage listed as primary/main all editions instead of secondary some editions, or at least if it's going to remain a separate work? And a disambiguation message too. Anyone more familiar want to fix it up?

Bearbeitet: Feb. 17, 2017, 2:25am

Because someone explicitly set it to Anonymous in the Other Authors section:
I'm not familiar with the work either, but what you say makes sense. If Simon Armitage is listed as secondary, some editions, then the work should be combined in. If this specific translation is to be kept separate, then Simon Armitage should at least be primary, all editions, if not set as the main author instead of Anonymous.

Feb. 17, 2017, 2:36am

>157 r.orrison:

(secondary, all editions) is enough to keep it separate in my opinion - if it is all edition, it does not matter what it is set to.

However - it is not a special edition, just a new translation. And as different as it is, I still do not think that it should stay separate... or we need to pull out all non-English translations as well.

Bearbeitet: Feb. 17, 2017, 8:14am

>158 AnnieMod: >156 omargosh: >157 r.orrison:

Be careful with texts called "Death of Arthur" or 'Morte de Arthur' or variations. This can refer to at least four different works.

One is the so-called 'alliterative Mort' -- that's what Armitage has here translated from Middle English. The actual author is unknown, hence 'Anonymous; it's possible there are other translations besides Armitage's.

Another is the so-called 'stanzaic Mort', another Middle English poem in a different form by a different author.

Famously there is Sir Thomas Malory's Le Morte d'Arthur, the final book of which s called the Death of Arthur. I believe this has sometimes been published separately.

Then there is a book called The Death of Arthur in the so-called Vulgate Cycle of Arthurian poems (aka the Prose Lancelot cycle or the Pseudo-Map cycle). As it happens a translation of this is by me on the desk right now.

These are obviously related stories but they are certainly different works by different authors. PLEASE do not combine all the Deaths of Arthur into one work. It would be like combining all the different Dracula movies into one work because they all tell roughly the same story

Bearbeitet: Feb. 17, 2017, 8:56am

I've changed Simon Armitage to "all editions" on that work. Could you add a disambiguation notice to at least explaining why it should be kept separate?

Is Armitage's translation sufficiently distinct, or should Armitage really be "some editions" and other editions of the 'alliterative Mort' be combined in?

Bearbeitet: Feb. 17, 2017, 2:41pm

Well, I think I need some clarification first.

Does Middle English come under the 'original language exception' when it comes to combining all editions of a work into one LT Work ? As with for instance, The Iliad where translations are kept separate from the original Greek? This is of course different to the Translation Rule for modern works where translations are considered just a combinable version of the main work.

Here's an LT title search for "alliterative morte". It shows at least one other translation, by Valerie Krishna who also produced a critical edition of it in the original.
I can do some workbenching of editions of the original done by various editors.
If the translations are to kept separate from the originals, should Krishna's translation be combined with Armitage? (I'd tentatively say yes.) In that case, Armitage is Some Editions.

(Edited to add the link I promised.)

Bearbeitet: Feb. 17, 2017, 11:09am

>159 Crypto-Willobie: Heaven forbid Marc Brown should ever let his Arthur visit Reichenbach Falls ...

Feb. 17, 2017, 12:39pm

>159 Crypto-Willobie:

Oh, I agree. I am just saying that it does not need to be moved just because it is this translation.

Feb. 17, 2017, 2:39pm

>158 AnnieMod: ( >163 AnnieMod: ?)

Well, it looks like all the Armitage translations have already been 'pulled out'.

I'm going to workbench all the editions of the original but I don't know whether to add the translations by Armitage and Krishna into that as well.

What to we do with Chaucer translations? they are kept separate, aren't they?
So this means Middle English falls under the 'original language rule'?

Feb. 17, 2017, 3:11pm

>164 Crypto-Willobie: To my great disappointment, Chaucer in the original is polluted with all sorts of "translations" (I suppose because they're all "english" right?). There are even vague retellings (by people such as Geraldine McCaughrean) that are mingled in. For a time, I tried to separate those out, but I'm in the process of just giving up.

I would wish that ME was not considered identical to modern English, but there it is.

Bearbeitet: Feb. 17, 2017, 4:40pm

>165 Lyndatrue:
Well, I'm pretty sure this has been discussed before over the years and I think the judgement was to treat ME as an 'ancient language' where translatins would not be combined in. It would certainly take a lot of work to separate Chaucer translations, but with enough strongly worded Disambig notices most separations should stick?
I think Piers Plowman translations are kept separate?

ETA See discussion on this thread, beginning around post 99

... and here

... and here from the 140s on

Bearbeitet: Feb. 19, 2017, 8:30am

>167 shmjay: Yuck! There are two authors named Donald Ringe currently in LT, both Donald A., and Donald A. 1 had been aliased into Donald Ringe. I undid that, combined Donald and Donald A.

I suppose it might have been more correct to split Donald, alias both into Donald A. and then split again, but I couldn't quite see that either.

It certainly does not make sense to have the more specific name split and aliased into the less specific name. When then a book by the the other split ended up on the less specific author page, things were really mixed up.

Oh, yes, Donald A 1 publishes as Don, Donald or Donald A.

Feb. 22, 2017, 12:49pm

If someone needs a project: needs a lot of work, but I can't deal with it today.

Feb. 22, 2017, 1:42pm

>169 MarthaJeanne: I think I've got it sorted out.

Feb. 22, 2017, 2:33pm

>169 MarthaJeanne: >170 amanda4242:
I also moved a Set of 3 volumes out of Vol 1 and into its own work and added it to the Series; and also pulled a volume 2 out of volume 1 and recombined it. At least Amazon listed that isbn as a Vol 2, and the LT entry gave it neither the Vol # nor the date range for Vol 1.

Feb. 22, 2017, 4:15pm

>166 Crypto-Willobie: Looking at those cites, I see no consensus. Middle English is hard because Chaucer is readable by modern English readers with dictionaries at hand, and a number of Middle English works are designed to be read by modern English readers, including sometimes respelling the language to be more like modern English.

Mrz. 2, 2017, 3:58pm

Please combine this book:
with the author page:

Thanks so much. :-)

Mrz. 2, 2017, 4:03pm

>173 Ameise1: It didn't need combining. I think it needed recalculating. See if it's right now.

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Mrz. 2, 2017, 4:04pm

>174 lesmel: Perfect, thanks so much.

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Mrz. 3, 2017, 1:22pm

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Mrz. 3, 2017, 2:18pm

>178 Collectorator: If I have offend you than I'm very sorry. I saw the respons in >174 lesmel: and was saying thank you. I didn't saw your post.

Mrz. 3, 2017, 3:39pm

>179 Ameise1: ignore >178 Collectorator:. i guess we have the self-appoint please and thank you police on LT now. you posted at nearly the same time in >176 Ameise1: as >175 Collectorator:.

Mrz. 3, 2017, 4:45pm

>178 Collectorator:

A bit cranky today? :)

Mrz. 9, 2017, 7:04pm

An odd series

It looks like there is an extra space in the first set, but when I look at them in the series field of common knowledge, I'm not seeing the extra space. Does anyone know how to fix it?

Mrz. 9, 2017, 7:25pm

I fixed the first one by going to the series with the extra space, going to the first book in the series, editing the Series field to remove the space between League and Of and adding it back then saving it. I have to rush off now so someone else can do the rest.

Mrz. 9, 2017, 7:40pm

Bearbeitet: Mrz. 10, 2017, 11:52am

Deleted, because I remembered how to do it myself.

Mrz. 11, 2017, 7:59am

Mrz. 11, 2017, 8:49am

>187 2wonderY: Thanks so much.

Bearbeitet: Mrz. 13, 2017, 11:55am

My problem is this: I read Chickenhawk, by Robert Mason on 3 Nov 2011 and then I read its sequel, Chickenhawk Back in the World Life After Vietnam on 13 Nov 2011.
LibraryThing says I have multiple copies of the second book --but they are different books. Why are they said to be the same book? The link for Chickenhawk is

The link for Chickenhawk Back in the World is:

Bearbeitet: Mrz. 13, 2017, 12:19pm

The first link should be

Hard to say now why the two works are combined. I'll try to separate.

Someone had definitely combined as there were two canonical titles. I have taken them out and added a disambiguation notice.

These are now separated. Your name is on both works, but you will probably want to check.

Mrz. 13, 2017, 4:00pm

Thanks much, MarthaJeanne. They no longer show as multiple works I have, which is as it should be. Nearly all the books which show as multiple works held by me are not such but are different books. But at least these two no longer show as multiple works, which is good to see.

Bearbeitet: Mrz. 13, 2017, 4:16pm

>191 Schmerguls:

That's a very easily fixable problem. I think now these are just real duplicates: ? If not - which ones are not?

Mrz. 14, 2017, 1:53pm

Thank you, AnnieMod. You are right. I have now eliminated them (except for one, which I am still working on). I had dual reviews on them for reasons no doubt my own fault. Thank you..

Mrz. 14, 2017, 2:00pm

>193 Schmerguls:

Let us know if you need any help - I did a few separations and tidying ups yesterday on the ones that were obviously not the same books.

Mrz. 14, 2017, 10:00pm

Is there any way you can combine


(And by the way, Ringedonalda-1 is the son of Ringedonalda-2.)

Bearbeitet: Mrz. 14, 2017, 10:12pm

Diese Nachricht wurde vom Autor gelöscht.

Bearbeitet: Mrz. 15, 2017, 2:15am

>195 shmjay: Ringedonald 1 can be aliased to ringedonalda and those books assigned to ringedonalda 1

Mrz. 15, 2017, 10:25pm

In the process of adding a set of books by this author I discovered such a mess (single volumes tossed in with four-volume sets, for starters). I hope someone would like to play with it.

Mrz. 15, 2017, 10:43pm

So, I don't know if this is a bug or what, but on my newly added book's "main" page it has a mash-up of the author/recorder in the Work Details. That's not right, is it? It's correct on the page where I can edit. -- wrong

It needs to be added to the author page above

Bearbeitet: Mrz. 15, 2017, 11:43pm

>199 SaintSunniva: I don't know whether it's changed, but it looks OK to me. (I've added a reference back to your original post, and invited other Combiners! to add their thoughts.)

With that, this thread is now CLOSED. Please continue our discussions at Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #76 -- Thank you!

Mrz. 15, 2017, 11:42pm

>198 SaintSunniva: & >199 SaintSunniva: I've done some work on this and the Carl Schroger pages. There may be other works which should be combined but I'm unsure about the variations in title.

Mai 11, 5:58pm

>74 MarthaJeanne: Hi I am Bonnie Ferrante and I did not write Beautiful ####sucker. Please please please remove this from my list of books.
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