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Ellen (EBT1002) reads her way to retirement - 4

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Paul Cezanne
Country House by a River

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Carson!

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I'm a bit ambivalent about rating books. I feel like my ratings are nonscientific and therefore inconsistent. Also, I too often find that I rate a book based on my immediate reaction but am later surprised as I recall it with either more or less affection than the rating seems to indicate. But I do like being able to look back and get a sense of how a book landed on me at the time I read it, so I persist with these stars in most cases.

= Masterpiece, took my breath away.
= Stunning.
= Excellent.
= Very good.
= Good.
= Average.
= Bad.
= Very bad.
= Don't bother.

Of course, it still holds true that I'm rarely going to complete a book earning fewer than two stars but I reserve the right to rate them based on my experience.

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COMPLETED IN JANUARY

1. The Women of the Copper Country by Mary Doria Russell 5 stars
2. Jazz by Toni Morrison 3.5 stars
3. Memorial Drive: A Daughter's Memoir by Natasha Trethewey (audio) 5 stars
4. Magical Negro by Morgan Parker unrated (poetry)
5. Squeeze Me by Carl Hiaasen 4 stars
6. The Book Woman of Troublesome Creek by Kim Michele Richardson 4.5 stars
7. The Only Good Indians by Stephen Graham Jones 5 stars
8. Mrs. Caliban by Rachel Ingalls 3.5 stars
9. News of the World by Paulette Jiles (reread) still 5 stars
10. The Boy in the Field by Margot Livesey 4 stars

COMPLETED IN FEBRUARY

11. The Reluctant Widow by Georgette Heyer 4 stars
12. The Thursday Murder Club by Richard Osman 3.5 stars
13. Paradise by Toni Morrison not yet rated
14. The King at the Edge of the World by Arthur Phillips 4 stars
15. The Long Song by Andrea Levy (reread) still 4 stars
16. The Stone Circle by Elly Griffiths 4 stars

COMPLETED IN MARCH

17. How Much of These Hills Is Gold by C. Pam Zhang 3 stars
18. Devil in a Blue Dress by Walter Mosley 3.5 stars
19. Unclay by T.F. Powys 3.5 stars
20. From Doon with Death by Ruth Rendell
21. The Survivors by Jane Harper 4 stars
22. The Lantern Men by Elly Griffiths 4 stars
23. Mr. Fox by Helen Oyeyemi 3 stars
24. Frederica by Georgette Heyer 4 stars

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AlphaKIT (my only formal challenge this year)

January......P M
✅ -- Memorial Drive by Natasha Trethewey
✅ -- Jazz by Toni Morrison
✅ -- Magical Negro by Morgan Parker

February.....T K
✅ -- The King at the Edge of the World by Arthur Phillips
✅ -- The Thursday Murder Club by Richard Osman

March.....U R
✅ -- Unclay by T.F. Powys
✅ -- From Doon with Death by Ruth Rendell

April.....A W
✅ -- Sharks in the Time of Saviors by Washburn, Kawai Strong
✅ -- Ask Again, Yes by Mary Beth Keane
✅ -- Homeland Elegies by Akhtar, Ayad

May.....I N
✅ -- In the Morning I'll Be Gone by Adrian McKinty
✅ -- Interior Chinatown by Charles Yu
✅ -- No One Is Talking About This by Patricia Lockwood

June.....C D
✅ -- The Cold Millions by Jess Walter
✅ -- The Dictionary of Lost Words by Pip Williams
✅ -- The Pull of the Stars by Emma Donoghue

July.....S O
✅ -- Signs for Lost Children by Sarah Moss
✅ -- The Death of Vivek Oji by Emezi, Akwaeke

August.....V J
✅ -- The Distant Echo by Val McDermid
✅ -- The Unseen by Roy Jacobsen

September.....F L

October.....H E
November.....B Y
December.....G Q

Yearlong.....X Z
-- The Poet X by Elizabeth Acevedo
-- How Much of These Hills Is Gold by Zhang, C Pam

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Personal Reading Challenge: Every winner of the Booker Prize since its inception in 1969

1969: P. H. Newby, Something to Answer For
1970: Bernice Rubens, The Elected Member
1970: J. G. Farrell, Troubles (awarded in 2010 as the Lost Man Booker Prize)
1971: V. S. Naipaul, In a Free State
1972: John Berger, G. -- DNF
1973: J. G. Farrell, The Siege of Krishnapur
1974: Nadine Gordimer, The Conservationist ... and Stanley Middleton, Holiday
1975: Ruth Prawer Jhabvala, Heat and Dust
1976: David Storey, Saville
1977: Paul Scott, Staying On
1978: Iris Murdoch, The Sea, The Sea
1979: Penelope Fitzgerald, Offshore
1980: William Golding, Rites of Passage
1981: Salman Rushdie, Midnight's Children
1982: Thomas Keneally, Schindler's Ark
1983: J. M. Coetzee, Life & Times of Michael K
1984: Anita Brookner, Hotel du Lac
1985: Keri Hulme, The Bone People
1986: Kingsley Amis, The Old Devils
1987: Penelope Lively, Moon Tiger
1988: Peter Carey, Oscar and Lucinda
1989: Kazuo Ishiguro, The Remains of the Day
1990: A. S. Byatt, Possession: A Romance
1991: Ben Okri, The Famished Road
1992: Michael Ondaatje, The English Patient ... and Barry Unsworth, Sacred Hunger
1993: Roddy Doyle, Paddy Clarke Ha Ha Ha
1994: James Kelman, How late it was, how late***
1995: Pat Barker, The Ghost Road
1996: Graham Swift, Last Orders
1997: Arundhati Roy, The God of Small Things
1998: Ian McEwan, Amsterdam
1999: J. M. Coetzee, Disgrace***
2000: Margaret Atwood, The Blind Assassin
2001: Peter Carey, True History of the Kelly Gang
2002: Yann Martel, Life of Pi
2003: DBC Pierre, Vernon God Little
2004: Alan Hollinghurst, The Line of Beauty
2005: John Banville, The Sea
2006: Kiran Desai, The Inheritance of Loss
2007: Anne Enright, The Gathering
2008: Aravind Adiga, The White Tiger
2009: Hilary Mantel, Wolf Hall
2010: Howard Jacobson, The Finkler Question
2011: Julian Barnes, The Sense of an Ending
2012: Hilary Mantel, Bring Up the Bodies
2013: Eleanor Catton, The Luminaries
2014: Richard Flanagan, The Narrow Road to the Deep North
2015: Marlon James, A Brief History of Seven Killings
2016: Paul Beatty, The Sellout
2017: George Saunders, Lincoln in the Bardo
2018: Anna Burns, Milkman
2019: Margaret Atwood, The Testaments, and Bernardine Evaristo, Girl, Woman, Other
2020: Douglas Stuart, Shuggie Bain

***On my shelves

I'm going to keep this post going so I can keep track but I admit I'm less committed to finishing the whole list than I once was.

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11EBT1002
Jun. 16, 2021, 7:00 pm

WELCOME FRIENDS!

12PaulCranswick
Jun. 16, 2021, 7:35 pm

Happy new one, Ellen!

13richardderus
Jun. 16, 2021, 7:42 pm

That Cézanne!! Ooohhh glory.

*smooch*

14EBT1002
Jun. 16, 2021, 8:06 pm

>12 PaulCranswick: and >13 richardderus: Thanks and welcome, Paul and Richard!

15quondame
Jun. 16, 2021, 8:28 pm

Happy new thread!

16jessibud2
Jun. 16, 2021, 8:42 pm

Happy new one Ellen. As always, love those toppers!

I just recently finished the Emma Donoghue, though I did so on audio (.I had some issues with the format of the print version, petty person that I am ;-). It was a good one.

17Caroline_McElwee
Jun. 16, 2021, 8:54 pm

>1 EBT1002: I'd just love to be sitting there Ellen.

18laytonwoman3rd
Jun. 16, 2021, 9:01 pm

The Cezanne is truly wonderful...but those pictures of Carson lovin' on ya' just make happy all over.

19drneutron
Jun. 16, 2021, 9:29 pm

Happy new one!

20BLBera
Jun. 16, 2021, 10:26 pm

Happy new thread, Ellen.

>1 EBT1002: looks like a good place to retire.

I'll watch for your comments on The Pull of the Stars.

21Berly
Jun. 17, 2021, 1:21 am

Happy new thread!!

22charl08
Jun. 17, 2021, 1:40 am

Happy new one Ellen. I agree with Beth re Piranesi.

23SandDune
Jun. 17, 2021, 3:09 am

Happy New Thread, Ellen!

24LovingLit
Jun. 17, 2021, 3:42 am

Your retirement countdown is so protracted- how can you sustain the necessary level of excitement for that long ;)

Carson is so sweet and snoozy. I love warm, soft, snoozy cats.

25FAMeulstee
Jun. 17, 2021, 6:11 am

Happy new thread, Ellen, I love the Cézanne at the top.

>9 EBT1002: Countdown, even with the time :-)
(Time confused me at first, we write 05:00 for morning and 17:00 for afternoon, and I often mess up PM and AM)

26msf59
Jun. 17, 2021, 7:04 am

Sweet Thursday, Ellen. Happy New Thread. Love the Cezanne. I was planning on using an art piece for my next topper too. I hope you are enjoying The Pull of the Stars. That one is on my list. I am getting ready to read The Night Watchman. I have had a copy on shelf forever but since it just won the Pulitzer, I decided it was time. Have you read it?

27katiekrug
Jun. 17, 2021, 9:08 am

>10 EBT1002: - I read The Kindest Lie last year when I won it as an ER book. I wasn't super impressed. I hope it lands on you better!

28ArlieS
Jun. 17, 2021, 5:48 pm

Happy new thread!

29richardderus
Jun. 18, 2021, 10:49 am

Ellen, there's more Bechdel-erie at the Believer Magazine!

30karenmarie
Jun. 19, 2021, 9:49 am

Happy new thread, Ellen!

The photos of Carson continue to crack me up.

31laytonwoman3rd
Jun. 19, 2021, 10:53 am

>26 msf59: I'm hoping to read The Night Watchman in July, as we're doing a Native American theme month in the AAC.

32streamsong
Jun. 19, 2021, 11:54 am

Happy New Thread, Ellen!

I also need to read The Night Watchman which has been on my TBR pile for quite a while now.

Love the Bechdel interview that Richard posted.

33maggie1944
Jun. 21, 2021, 11:28 pm

I am so glad you are creeping up on retirement! What a joy it will be when there are only 12 months left! 1 year to go, that should be doable.

34Familyhistorian
Jun. 22, 2021, 7:37 pm

Happy new thread, Ellen. That's a beautiful topper.

35Berly
Jun. 27, 2021, 4:55 pm

Hey, where'd ya go? Hope you are surviving the Pacific NW heat wave. : )

36maggie1944
Jun. 28, 2021, 12:56 pm

I am imagining that the heat is a bit worse in your part of Washington State, but I am here to say, this heat we are having is truly shaking us up. Can you imagine what the forests, and the rest of the greens in our beautiful Pac Northwest, are feeling! Yikes.

I am doing OK. Only venture outside when Gretchen needs me to walk her a little ways, otherwise, my apt. is staying a cool 80 degrees while outside it is a good 10+ degrees warmer. Yikes!

37richardderus
Jun. 28, 2021, 1:32 pm

Did y'all give up on camping? Too damned hot to do this week, I'd think.

38BLBera
Jun. 28, 2021, 1:45 pm

Ellen is camping and will post when she gets back.

39EBT1002
Jun. 30, 2021, 5:21 pm

Hey everyone. Lord, it was HOT at Mt. Rainier!!! We drove up there, pulling our little trailer, on Sunday morning, set up camp, and proceeded to try to stay cool. Monday we went for an early morning hike. We were the first ones to the parking lot for Box Canyon, had decided to hike along part of the Wonderland Trail (a 97-mile trail that completely encircles the mountain). Just a little ways in, I spotted two bears -- a mama and young -- about 125 yards up a sloping hillside. Youngster was preoccupied but mama noticed us. We watched her, she watched us. Then I remembered that a stare-down with a bear is generally a poor idea, even at 100+ yards of distance. So I slowly backed up. This broke the trance and she lumbered up into the forest behind her. Youngster followed a moment later. We imagined her calling to him: "junior! get up here. Now!" It was a great treat. Certainly the best bear-sighting I have had in wild territory. The hike was beautiful, mostly through forest and without much elevation gain. We ended at a wooden bridge crossing Stevens Creek which was roaring down the mountain! At 100F in the park, the snow pack (and, alas, the glaciers) were melting at a rapid pace. All the rivers were rushing along, full of gray, silty, freezing-ass-cold glacial water.

We spent the rest of Monday at the campsite, trying to stay cool. When it's 100F, sitting in the shade reading a book is less romantic than it sounds.

Tuesday morning, up again bright and early. This time we weren't first at the trailhead but only two cars were parked there and we passed two solo hikers on our way up (they were on their respective ways down). This hike was to Snow Lake and it wasn't very long -- about 2.4 miles round trip -- but the trail involved three major up-then-down sections. Our legs were feeling it! Near the end we walked across a decent snow field (yay for YakTrax!). Again, upper 90s and sunny. The snow pack was thin in places and my right leg (the one with the new knee) went right through to the soggy ground below at one point. No harm done but it got my attention! We saw amazing Bear Grass and huge patched of Glacier Lilies a peak bloom. It was a beautiful if tiring hike. The heat was truly brutal.

Back at camp, it was miserable. I had not slept well either night. Our little trailer just would not cool down. Around 3:30 yesterday afternoon, I looked up at Prudence and said "it may sound crazy, but should we just head home now?" Our plan at that point was essentially to try not to survive until it cooled down enough to go to bed, then get up very early and get on the road before it got "too hot." Well, 45 minutes later, we were packed up and pulling out of the campground with our little trailer behind us. The drive home was hot and dry and exhausting. We stopped in Naches and the guy at the gas station said it was 105F. He said it was 112F in Yakima, the next town we would go through.

Today, in Pullman, our high is expected to be 102F; it's already 100F. We went and got Carson at the vet/boarder first thing this morning. He was terribly traumatized but has finally settled down. Poor little guy; he just hates being anywhere but home.

I did do some reading although less than I would have liked. You guessed it: it was too hot to read. Now that is hot!!

40EBT1002
Jun. 30, 2021, 5:28 pm

44. The Widows of Malabar Hill by Sujata Massey


The setting is the best thing about this novel: Bombay in 1921 with a few flashbacks to 1917. Perveen Mistry is Bombay's first woman lawyer, though her scope of practice is notably restricted by her gender. As she is attempting to wrap up an estate issue for one of her father's clients, she realizes that the deceased man's three widows have all apparently signed their inheritance off to a rather suspect charity organization. The women live in complete seclusion; here, Perveen's gender becomes an advantage because she can interact with them as male lawyers cannot. While she is looking into the matter, an estate agent turns up murdered and Perveen turns to helping one of the widows establish her innocence. Meanwhile, a bit of Perveen's own history comes back to haunt her.

41EBT1002
Jun. 30, 2021, 5:34 pm

45. Summerwater by Sarah Moss


I loved this little novel and I'm still deciding why I'm not giving it the full five stars. Set in Scotland during an exceedingly rainy summer, the novel introduces us to a series of characters, each on holiday in one of a group of cabins at the end of a 10-mile track. None of the characters is especially happy, although the degree of their discontent varies. Varying from elderly and confused to young and brash, with various adults in between, each character's thoughts belie their disillusionment, selfishness, and regret. But we also glimpse their respective hopes and their individual ways of coping. It is clear their stories will converge but the climax took me completely by surprise. I think this would benefit from a second read; I am sure I would catch all manner of foreshadowing and interconnections I didn't quite catch the first time through.

I also ended the novel with the impulse to read every work by Sarah Moss that I have not yet read. I have a couple books from the library so we'll see where I land.

42EBT1002
Jun. 30, 2021, 5:43 pm

>15 quondame: Hi Susan!

>16 jessibud2: Hi Shelley. I enjoyed The Pull of the Stars. I thought it was deceptively simple in its narrative style, carrying a surprising emotional weight.

>17 Caroline_McElwee: I know, doesn't that painting just pull you in, Caroline?

>18 laytonwoman3rd: Hi Linda. Carson is so sweet when he is sweet. We boarded him for the past three nights for our camping trip and it was clearly very traumatic for him. They said he was anxious the whole time. He was very needy when we first brought him home this morning but he is settled down now. Such an anxious little cat. Okay, not so little, either. He weighed 14.14 pounds this morning. Sigh.

>19 drneutron: and >20 BLBera: and >21 Berly:
Thanks Jim, Beth, and Kim!

>22 charl08: Hi Charlotte. Good to know. I think I'll skip Piranesi. It didn't sound like my cup of tea in the first place and if you and Beth are saying "meh," I can dedicate my precious reading time elsewhere!

43BLBera
Jun. 30, 2021, 5:48 pm

Moss is becoming someone whose work I will automatically pick up, Ellen.

Your camping trip sounds pretty miserable. PLEASE don't send the heat our way!

When do you go back to work?

44EBT1002
Jun. 30, 2021, 5:51 pm

>23 SandDune: Thanks Rhian!

>24 LovingLit: You make a good point, Megan. I have told myself I'm not to look at the countdown app again until after August 1. It needs to be under 365 days next time I look at it. Sometimes it has the effect of lifting me up: whoa! only 13 months to go! But other times it is more as you suggest; it can feel like a slog.

>25 FAMeulstee: Hi Anita. I can see how that would confuse you. As in: why would she retire at 5:00 in the morning???? I have this fantasy of walking out of that office at the end of the day on the last Friday in July 2022.... it will be a weird feeling, I know.

>26 msf59: Hi Mark! I enjoyed The Pull of the Stars. As I mentioned above, I thought the narrative style was deceptively simple for a book with a good emotional punch. And I have indeed read The Night Watchman. I loved it perhaps more than most; I gave it 4.5 stars. I am such a fan of Erdrich's writing.

>27 katiekrug: Hi Katie. My reaction to The Kindest Lie was rather "meh." I gave it 3 stars.

>28 ArlieS: Thank you Arlie!

45EBT1002
Jun. 30, 2021, 5:54 pm

>29 richardderus: Hmmm, The Believer magazine. I don't know that one. But I'm about to introduce myself!

>30 karenmarie: Hi Karen. I'm glad you enjoy the photos of Carson. He is a funny boy when his anxiety is not making him troublesome! But I do love him.

>31 laytonwoman3rd: I hope you enjoy The Night Watchman, Linda. I quite liked it although it was not my favorite Erdrich. I'm also such a fan of her work that I may have given The Night Watchman an extra half-star just because she wrote it.

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>32 streamsong: Hi Janet. I love that interview with Alison Bechdel, too!

(>29 richardderus: Thanks for posting it, Richard!!!!)

47EBT1002
Jun. 30, 2021, 6:04 pm

>33 maggie1944: I know, Karen. I feel like I'm almost in my last year although not quite. But knowing that this time next year I'll have a month to go ... that will just be wrapping up what I can and getting that office cleaned out! :-)

>34 Familyhistorian: Thanks Meg!

>35 Berly: Hi Kim! Thanks for checking in. I have survived but just barely. This heat wave is BRUTAL! We've been over 100F four consecutive days here in Pullman. Tomorrow the high is supposed to be "only" 94F. We'll take it!

I remember when Seattle broke triple digits for the first time in recorded history. It was perhaps our second summer living there. The light rail did not yet take me from work to home, so I was a bus rider. It was 103F and I got on the 48 with a bottle of cold water to hold on the back of my neck. It must have been 120F on that bus. Almost an hour later I was home and I was SO hot. That Seattle was going to hit 107 this time around is horrifying.

This last couple of days, at Mt. Rainier, enjoying her grandeur and beauty, I had to fight off the depression. It was so very hot and I looked up at the mountain's glaciers, and I could actually envision what she will look like when she is no longer a permanent whitecap. Hood, Adams, and all the rest of them.... we know it's coming and all too quickly. I had to fend off the depressing thought "what we humans have wrought."

48EBT1002
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>36 maggie1944: See my comments here ^ Karen. I was at our beloved Mt. Rainier for the past three days and I nearly wept for the Douglas Firs and Hemlocks, not to mention the poor fauna. Every raven I saw had its beak open, trying to cool itself. I imagined the mama bear I saw with her youngster looking for a glacial creek in which to immerse themselves, one away from the trails and roads we humans have built.

49richardderus
Jun. 30, 2021, 6:10 pm

>47 EBT1002: Yeup...deeply depressing thought, perfectly in keeping with lived reality.

Anyway, glad you're home and safe.

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>37 richardderus: See >39 EBT1002:.
We are intrepid and foolhardy, Richard. We did go camping, and we took two viciously hot hikes, and I'm glad we went because we saw some of the most beautiful sights we've seen in a while, including mama bear and her youngster!, but I'm so very glad we came home last night.

51EBT1002
Jun. 30, 2021, 6:15 pm

>38 BLBera: Thanks for letting everyone know I was safe (if crazy), Beth!

>43 BLBera: Okay, Beth, which of Sarah Moss' works do you like best? I have Signs for Lost Children on the shelf. I need to acquire Ghost Wall.

You know, the camping trip was a blend of spectacular and miserable. The miserable part was certainly the bulk of it in terms of minutes (hours!) but the spectacular ended up balancing it out in the end. I'm going to see if I can post a few photos from our hikes.

I go back to work on Tuesday, July 5. It's nice to have some staycation time added on to the camping trip! And tomorrow a high of "only" 91F! Whew.

52EBT1002
Jun. 30, 2021, 6:20 pm

>49 richardderus: We have well and truly destroyed the beautiful planet, Richard. I wholly believe that. I was struck in my reading of Summerwater this afternoon how often climate change is present in contemporary novels -- not necessarily as a main theme (although certainly sometimes that) but as a casual element of reality. If a novel takes place in the now, climate change shows up the same way that rock music shows up if a novel is set in the 1960s/70s.

Thanks for the glad tidings on being home safe and sound. Our A/C is running nearly constantly and I feel a bit guilty. It's set on 74 or 75 and it's still working full time. I'm a part of the problem. But I'm not willing to sit here in 100 degrees. Sigh.

53EBT1002
Jun. 30, 2021, 6:27 pm

>29 richardderus: One of my favorite bits in the interview is when Bechdel is talking about a friend of hers who "... encouraged me with this idea that it might be more powerful for a woman to write a book about fitness and never once mention weight and body image." I noticed that when I read The Secret to Superhuman Strength but didn't really process how revolutionary it was. Very cool.

54richardderus
Jun. 30, 2021, 6:54 pm

>53 EBT1002: It's all too rare, and so very very important, for women to decline to participate in the Beauty Industrial Complex. Fitness ≠ beauty; the point needs to be health and strength.

>52 EBT1002: We're not going to fix anything by sweating.

55jessibud2
Jun. 30, 2021, 6:56 pm

Glad to hear that you are home, Ellen, and glad too, that you decided to come home early. I don't think it is worth risking your health in this sort of heat. It's just not safe.

I hear you on the guilt re a/c. I feel the same way. I truly believe that this unrelenting heat is, for lack of a better phrase, the new normal that we humans have created yet the only way to survive it is a/c; still, isn't that part of the problem? It doesn't sit well with me but I don't see other options that are viable. I do my best to mitigate my personal footprint whenever and however I can but this is way bigger than just me, and frankly, it's past *too late*...
:-(

56EBT1002
Jun. 30, 2021, 7:16 pm

>54 richardderus: I agree on both counts, Richard. I do think we can still do what we can (although I'm technically contradicting myself, since I believe we have already f*cked up the planet and we've waited too late to stop it), so I set the thermostat at 74 or 75, I dry my clothes on the line rather than in the dryer, etc. But it does feel pretty hopeless. And I also know that sitting here in 100 degrees would bring on other problems, at least for me it would.

>55 jessibud2: Thanks Shelley. We made the right decision to come on home! I agree that this unrelenting heat is our new normal. A University of Idaho researcher apparently said that it's too early to tell whether this heat wave is a sign of climate change. Whatever. The temperature trend data along with singular events like unprecedented storms, heat waves, crazy winter weather.... if this isn't climate change, I don't know what is!

July is apparently "no plastic month." We'll do our best....

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I have a few photos I want to post but I'll need my iPad rather than this MacBook. So, later this evening I'll give you all a peek at one of the loveliest places on Earth. :-)

58quondame
Jun. 30, 2021, 7:18 pm

>55 jessibud2: We put in solar to support our AC habit. Somewhat less guilt and once the city stops charging us for the privilege of taking what we generate, cleaning it up and returning it we will feel even less pain.

59jessibud2
Jun. 30, 2021, 7:31 pm

>56 EBT1002: - If it isn't a *sign* of climate change, then it sure is the result of it! I am not a professor and I figured that out!

60lauralkeet
Jun. 30, 2021, 8:23 pm

Welcome home, Ellen. I think you made the right call by coming home early. It's not like someone was awarding prizes for gutting it out.

I'm also glad to see you gave Summerwater 4.5 stars. That ending hit me with a wallop too. I knew *something* was coming, but wow. Not that.

61EBT1002
Jun. 30, 2021, 8:39 pm

I started Signs for Lost Children a little while ago. Already I love it!

62BLBera
Jun. 30, 2021, 9:11 pm

I think Summerwater is my favorite, but I did also love her memoir of her year in Iceland. My book club is reading Night Waking, so I'll be starting that soon.

63LizzieD
Jul. 1, 2021, 12:15 am

Dear Ellen, I'm too sleepy to catch up, but I'm glad you're home and hoping that your horrid weather will abate in the next few days. Your encounter with the bears calls to mind my reaction to seeing and hearing pileated woodpeckers here: how awesome to see and hear them! how devastating to know that their reclusive habitat is gone and that they are reduced to surviving in "our" territory!

64ffortsa
Jul. 1, 2021, 1:02 pm

When I heard you and P. were camping this week, I got a little worried. Glad you came home when the heat got so bad. And of course it's climate change, and we are changing it. New York has been unusually hot (we used to get this heat for a day or two in August, but not in June). I run the a/c as little as I can, keep turning lights off, recycle everything I can, but the fact is we are a greedy and careless species. In Le Guin's book The Dispossessed, she inserts an almost casual remark that humans have destroyed the earth in just this way, and the remnants of our own die-off live in the remaining heat.

65benitastrnad
Jul. 1, 2021, 5:54 pm

I couldn't help but think about a book I read last month about how we have fished the ocean's dry. The ocean fin-fish will never recover and scientists are just trying to figure out how to keep the species we have alive and protected so that they don't go extinct. It is depressing.

66SandDune
Jul. 2, 2021, 4:08 am

>52 EBT1002: >56 EBT1002: I am also very despondent about the state of the environment and the climate emergency. Particularly as we seem to be completely blind to its consequences in so many cases. I also do what I can - I am a member of many campaigning environmental organisations, we have totally green electricity and pay to offset the gas, I don’t buy air-freighted food, I’m trying to eat much more vegetarian/vegan and cut back on packaging and plastic. And I’m also trying to give up flying (at least as far as possible). I did promise Mr SandDune years ago that we would go on a trip to New Zealand when we both retired so I don’t think I can really go back on that. But I’m not flying anywhere in Europe. But in needs government to start taking this seriously, not just vague for 2050.

67jnwelch
Jul. 2, 2021, 9:08 am

Hi, Ellen. Your hiking trip sounds great, despite the hot weather. Implicit is that your new knee held up. Hurrah!

All is well on our end. I just started the new Ruth Galloway mystery, and it's good to be back spending time with her.

68ArlieS
Jul. 2, 2021, 3:55 pm

>55 jessibud2: *sigh* Yes, I'm also "part of the problem" in that I use energy to cope with some of my local climate change manifestations. Sadly, when I moved to this area 24 years ago, a/c was never *needed*, though sometimes a pleasant indulgence. Now you'd be crazy not to have and use it, if you can afford to.

I'd move somewhere less problematic, if I could find such a location - but the problem is global, and my expectation is that we'll ultimately wind up with a temperature range similar to last time the carbon dioxide level was this high - back in the dinosaur era, with IIRC the whole planet either tropical or subtropical. (Yes, there were other relevant influences compounding the heating, and I'm not qualified to estimate how much was the arrangement of continents at the time, and how much was greenhouse gases. But it makes a good rough estimate.) Fortunately I'm already in my 60s; the whole world probably won't be (sub)tropical in my remaining lifespan.

69EBT1002
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Mama Bear at Mt. Rainier National Park

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Stevens Creek

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Mt. Rainier

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Bench Lake (lunch spot)

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Glacier Lilies

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Prudence on the hike to Snow Lake

75quondame
Jul. 2, 2021, 11:30 pm

It all looks so lovely. Too bad the heat cut you time there short.

76ursula
Jul. 3, 2021, 2:56 am

Gorgeous pictures! I've only seen bears in Yellowstone, although in Colorado we did come across bear poop a couple of times. Our dog wanted to head back to the car when she noticed it!

77Caroline_McElwee
Jul. 3, 2021, 6:48 am

Beautiful photos Ellen. Sorry the heat meant cutting it short, but I'm sure being in such a lovely place even for a short while gave you a lift. Returning early was a good call.

78lauralkeet
Jul. 3, 2021, 7:39 am

Thanks for sharing the photos Ellen -- what a gorgeous area.

79jessibud2
Jul. 3, 2021, 8:14 am

>72 EBT1002: - Topper-worthy!
>74 EBT1002: - Seriously? Snow? In that heat? How is that possible?

80BLBera
Jul. 3, 2021, 8:18 am

Great photos, Ellen! You were really close to the bear!

81streamsong
Jul. 3, 2021, 10:25 am

Great photos, Ellen, but I agree you were wise to come back.

I'm having the same brutal heat here in Montana. Wednesday was the zoom ethnic/ refugee-supporting cooking class that I love. The heat has made me nauseated so I stretched out on the floor and watched it in front of a fan. I have all the ingredients and will cook one of these days before the fresh stuff like baby bok-choy goes bad. In the meantime, I am drinking kombucha and sports drinks, lots of water and hoping that I least I may lose a few pounds. :)

I also really enjoyed Summerwater and agree that more by Sarah Moss are in my future.

I'm reading Homeland Elegies right now. Although I had seen it mentioned on several threads, your enthusiasm is what pushed it over the top for me. Spectacular book so far!

82laytonwoman3rd
Jul. 3, 2021, 11:26 am

Your pictures are so beautiful, and it doesn't look hot, but I know that's deceiving. Thank you for sharing.

83magicians_nephew
Jul. 3, 2021, 6:05 pm

When we were in Alaska we got the "What to do if you see a bear" lecture about 18 times. Never saw a bear. We were disappointed. They are beautiful animals. I last saw a Brown Bear with my Boy Scout Troop up on Bear Mountain in the 1970's

84richardderus
Jul. 3, 2021, 7:03 pm

>69 EBT1002: -- >74 EBT1002: How very beautiful! I'm impressed it can look like that and be 90°-plus. Somehow I thought it would be all brown and sere.

85drneutron
Jul. 5, 2021, 9:52 am

Oh, those are great pics!

86maggie1944
Jul. 5, 2021, 8:17 pm

Mt Rainier was called The Grandmother, rumor has it. The first people may have used that term. I like it. And I love Mt. R. She has been a fixture in my entire life here.

I swear I need to get up there and look at her up close.

I finished reading The Orphan Collector but have not yet written it up, nor decided how many stars to give it. I did stick to it, which is my challenge these days. I swear I was reading the NY Times on Sunday morning and I had to quit because I was stumbling over words. Stopping and spelling it in my mind while staring at the word. Not difficult words something like "judicious". Wow!

But I have not had that problem since then. I may just have not had enough coffee.

Back to The Orphan Collector - I definitely recommend it. It is a nice reminder how much we benefit from modern medicine.

I hope the weather in Pullman is not driving you two mad! I liked the heat of summers in central Idaho, but I was a kid.

87EBT1002
Jul. 5, 2021, 10:59 pm

Today I finished Signs for Lost Children by Sarah Moss. Five stars. Maybe 4.5.... still deciding. But it consumed my past few days (along with some companionable binge watching of "Big Bang Theory," which neither of us had ever seen).

88kidzdoc
Jul. 6, 2021, 12:00 am

I'm glad that you liked Signs for Lost Children that much, Ellen. Have you read its prequel, Bodies of Light? If so, how did Signs for Lost Children compare to it? I'm seriously considering reading it this month, so I look forward to your thoughts about it.

89vivians
Jul. 6, 2021, 9:16 am

>87 EBT1002: >88 kidzdoc: I loved Signs for Lost Children too and was unaware there was a prequel! It worked perfectly as a standalone but I'm eager to read the prequel anyway. I'm considering waiting a bit, then reading both together. Moss has a new one coming out in the fall.

90kidzdoc
Bearbeitet: Jul. 6, 2021, 9:56 am

>89 vivians: Right, Vivian. The only reason I know is because Rachael (FlossieT), who was formerly an active member of LT and remains one of my most reliable sources of new books and a dear friend, highly recommended Bodies of Light when we met in Cambridge several years ago. It was only available in the UK at the time, and I bought a copy of it in London during that trip. It was the first book by Sarah Moss that I had read, and it remains my favorite book of hers. It still seems to have not been published in the US, even though Signs for Lost Children was.

Thanks for letting us know about her new novel! It's titled The Fell, and I found this synopsis of it: “At dusk on a November evening in 2020, a woman slips out of her garden gate and turns up the hill. Kate is in the middle of a two-week quarantine period, but she can’t take it any more—the closeness of the air in her small house, the confinement. And anyway, the moor will be deserted at this time. Nobody need ever know. But Kate’s neighbour Alice sees her leaving and Matt, Kate’s son, soon realises she is missing. And Kate, who planned only a quick solitary walk—a breath of open air—falls and badly injures herself. What began as a furtive walk has turned into a mountain rescue operation. Unbearably suspenseful, witty and wise, The Fell asks probing questions about the place the world has become since March 2020, and the place it was before.”

Needless to say I'll buy a copy of it as soon as it is published.

91lauralkeet
Jul. 6, 2021, 12:14 pm

>90 kidzdoc: Oooh, The Fell sounds excellent. Thanks for sharing the description, Darryl. I'll be looking to get my hands on that one ASAP as well.

92BLBera
Jul. 6, 2021, 12:55 pm

Good to know that Signs for Lost Children is a good one, Ellen. I'm reading Night Waking, which I am loving. I think it's one you would like as well.

93streamsong
Jul. 6, 2021, 1:26 pm

I'm definitely seeing more Sarah Moss in my future!

94kidzdoc
Jul. 6, 2021, 8:05 pm

>91 lauralkeet: You're welcome, Laura. According to Amazon The Fell will be released in the UK on November 11th, but not until March 1st in the US.

95LovingLit
Jul. 8, 2021, 6:06 am

>47 EBT1002: I feel your pain re the changing climatic conditions :( It is feeling more and more normal now for severe weather events to occur, and people just don't get the concept of a 1/100 years storm that occurs once a decade....people huh? We sure are a strange breed.

Your trip sounded amazing though, and the pictures are incredible.

96EBT1002
Jul. 8, 2021, 2:42 pm

>62 BLBera: Good to hear your reaction to her memoir, Beth. I have wondered about that one and now I know I need to acquire it along with Night Waking.

>63 LizzieD: I agree with you 100%, Peggy. I mourn for what we have lost that is irretrievable, and the impact on other species who, frankly, would have done very nicely on this planet without us!

>64 ffortsa: We do the same re minimal a/c use, Judy. We almost always turn it off and open the windows at night. I read The Dispossessed back in 2013, not in my usual territory as you know. Interesting that Le Guin was attuned to climate change well before it was a dinner table topic of conversation.

97EBT1002
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>65 benitastrnad: "It is depressing. Indeed it is, Benita.

>66 SandDune: All that sounds like doing your part, Rhian. We have been working on reducing our plastic footprint -- and I admit that P is better at it than I. I can't seem to break my pen-buying habit. But I am trying. We have found and love the Bees Wrap and similar products. It takes a bit of learning how to use them (you do have to hold the wrap around the edge of the bowl you are covering, allowing the heat from your hands to form the wax-encrusted material to the shape of the bowl) but I feel so great that we haven't used plastic wrap for leftovers and such for over a year now!

98EBT1002
Jul. 8, 2021, 2:50 pm

>67 jnwelch: You are correct, Joe, that my knee held up just fine. It aches now and then and it's not as strong as I'd like but it really can take me on a good long hike. This is good because walking and hiking are still two of my favorite things to do!

I need to put The Night Hawks on hold at the library as it is next in my Ruth Galloway adventures.

>68 ArlieS: I agree, Arlie, about the idea of moving somewhere less impacted by climate change but that "...the problem is global." When I told my sister that we plan to move back to western Oregon when I retire, she said she thought the fires last year might have changed our minds about that. Nope. No matter where we go, human impact is there. And it is not pretty.

99EBT1002
Jul. 8, 2021, 2:51 pm

Not all caught up but must go eat some lunch and get ready for an afternoon FULL of meetings. UGH.

100EBT1002
Jul. 8, 2021, 2:58 pm

Aw, what the hell. Let's see if I can get all caught up.

>75 quondame: Yes, Susan, and I was thinking that you can't tell from the pictures how hot it was! :-D

>76 ursula: Hi Ursula. I've spotted bears in Mt. Rainier Nat'l Park a couple of times but this was definitely the closest. Yellowstone is, in my experience, one of the best places on Earth to see wildlife. We will be there in late September! Your dog was smart -- my understanding is that dogs and bears do not get along and the dog almost never wins.

>77 Caroline_McElwee: Hi Caroline. We knew our decision to return early was the right one -- and it was only one night of sleeping in the trailer that we missed. The break was indeed good for me. I so love being out of doors.

>78 lauralkeet: Glad you enjoyed the pics, Laura.

>79 jessibud2: It's counterintuitive to see that much snow when it was in the upper 90s, isn't it, Shelley? The only good climate news for the area this year is that there was a decent snow pack. The snow was melting rapidly in that heat but when there are several feet of it, it still takes a while.

101EBT1002
Jul. 8, 2021, 3:03 pm

>80 BLBera: We were as close to the bears as I'd like to be, Beth! When we hike in bear territory (especially places like Yellowstone or Glacier where they are still abundant) I am an annoying hiking partner. I talk the whole time to ensure we don't come around any corner in the trail and surprise a bear.

>81 streamsong: Hi Janet. I can relate to the nausea in the heat. I hope you get a break out there in Montana soon.

I'm also glad you're enjoying Homeland Elegies. I didn't set out to accomplish this, but I may complete Sarah Moss' oeuvre by the end of this year. She is easily one of my favorite authors.

>82 laytonwoman3rd: You are so welcome, Linda.

>83 magicians_nephew: Jim, you should perhaps come to Pullman. I know it sounds weird but we actually have one of the best Brown Bear research facilities in the world (and we're working on developing donors to expand and improve). We frequently stop by to see them. It's best when one of the researchers is on hand to talk with us about what they are up to, how they are learning from these bears in order to hopefully help survival of those in the wild.

102EBT1002
Jul. 8, 2021, 3:08 pm

>84 richardderus: Give it a few more years, Richard, and it will indeed be all brown and sere. I stood looking at the mountain when we were there, imaging what it will look like when it is no longer a year-round snow- and glacier-cap.

>85 drneutron: Glad you enjoyed, Jim!

>86 maggie1944: I always think of you when I visit Mt. Rainier, Karen. I remember you saying that you had heard that the mountain was called Grandmother by the native peoples of its territory so I always think of "her" in that term.

I'm sorry to hear that reading is a bit of a challenge for you these days. I will investigate The Orphan Collector.
My eyes are definitely needing a check and I have that scheduled for next week. I fear the right eye is developing a cataract so minor surgery may be in my future. I simply MUST be able to read.

103EBT1002
Jul. 8, 2021, 3:15 pm

>88 kidzdoc: I have read Bodies of Light, Darryl, and I loved it as well. I didn't realize this was a sort of "sequel" to that until I got into it and, of course, the back story from BoL became relevant. In terms of how the two compare, as a fellow Sarah Moss lover, you will know that her books are more varied than those by many authors. These two do have similar voice, though, which works in this instance. Her writing is exquisite. I frequently reread a sentence just to relish her use of language and imagery.

>89 vivians: Vivian, I didn't realize Bodies of Light and Signs for Lost Children were related to one another until I got into the latter. I'm glad I read them in the order they occur, but I agree that reading either without the other is entirely satisfactory. SfLC includes a wee spoiler with respect to the story of BoL but I think your idea of reading them together is brilliant.

>90 kidzdoc: Thanks for sharing that synopsis of The Fell, Darryl. Like you, I will obtain it as soon as it's available. Right now I'm working on acquiring Night Waking and Ghost Wall, two of hers I have not yet read.

Given how much you loved Bodies of Light, I highly recommend Signs for Lost Children. It is the story of a marriage but so very much more than that.

104EBT1002
Jul. 8, 2021, 4:42 pm

>91 lauralkeet: Me too.

>92 BLBera: I ordered a copy of Night Waking after seeing your comment on your thread, Beth.

>93 streamsong: As well you should, Janet! :-) I think Sarah Moss is one of the most diverse writers around these days. One work is simply not like another (although Bodies of Light and Signs for Lost Children have more common ground than most) but they are all above average.

>94 kidzdoc: It sounds like I might be ordering via Book Depository come November.

>95 LovingLit: Hi Megan. Yes, we humans are strange. I admit that early in this last pandemic, I found myself resonating with the idea that the virus was actually the Earth's immune system kicking in to rid her of the virus that is the human species. Our global lockdowns eased pressure on the environment in some ways for a couple of months but it did not last. And it shifted, rather than eased, some of our pressure on the environment, as I understand it.

105LovingLit
Jul. 8, 2021, 4:44 pm

>99 EBT1002: hope those meetings go well! And that it's not too hot....

106richardderus
Jul. 8, 2021, 4:54 pm

>102 EBT1002: A terrifying exercise in futureshock, I know.

As Elsa's thunderstorminess is nigh, I'm off the 'puter for a while. Lightning isn't a happy-making thing for electronics.

107msf59
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Sweet Thursday, Ellen. I love all the Mt. Rainier photos. How cool on the bear sightings. It looks like I will add both Signs for Lost Children & The Death of Vivek Oji to my hefty list.

108BLBera
Jul. 8, 2021, 7:10 pm

Hi Ellen - I am loving all the Sarah Moss love here! I just finished Night Waking, set in present day, but with letters from May Moberly..., so there is a connection to Bodies of Light. I'll work on comments tonight and tomorrow. My book club will discuss it. I think it will be an interesting discussion.

109EBT1002
Jul. 9, 2021, 1:26 pm

>105 LovingLit: Thanks Megan. Yesterday was long but not bad. Today I'm only working a half-day, then P and I are driving to Walla Walla to meet Seattle friends for a weekend of wine-tasting.

>106 richardderus: Hi Richard! I hope Elsa passes you by without much impact.

>107 msf59: Hi Mark. Have you read Sarah Moss's Bodies of Light? It is sort of a prequel to Signs for Lost Children and, while either can work well as a stand-alone, I still recommend starting with Bodies of Light.

>108 BLBera: Hi Beth. Darryl first introduced me to Sarah Moss and it is among the greatest LT gifts. There are so many others; as I have said before, LT has so expanded my reading landscape. I am ever grateful.

Oh, I love hearing that there are letters from May Moberly imbedded in the story of Night Waking. How cool that Moss is writing a series of novels that are, in fact, NOT a series but involve repeat characters. Enjoy the discussion!

110richardderus
Jul. 9, 2021, 1:39 pm

>109 EBT1002: We had a deluge last night, windy ick-ptui rain this morning, and now it's sunstruck and gorgeous outside! A perfect summer day.

How lucky are we!

111EBT1002
Jul. 9, 2021, 2:53 pm

>110 richardderus: Very lucky indeed! Enjoy, RD. Relish it whilst you can. xo

112laytonwoman3rd
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>97 EBT1002: I'm glad to hear from someone who has actually tried Bees Wrap. I've had my eye on that for a while, wondering if it could work well. I tried a kraft paper substitute for plastic packaging tape, from the Net Zero company, and found it sticks very well to flat cardboard or paper, but NOT TO ITSELF or on bulgy packages, which is problematic. I think the adhesive needs tweaking. Still, I'm using it with a little care and ingenuity.

113ffortsa
Jul. 9, 2021, 6:18 pm

>97 EBT1002: Ellen, plastic is indeed ubiquitous, and therefore hard to avoid. For a while now, I've been reusing my ziplock bags (just turn them inside out to wash, of course), and they last a god while. I don't think I've bought a box of them for a year, and only toss them when they split down the side. Since I have them, I may as well make use of them.

But I do hate that so many foodstuffs are wrapped in plastic. If I can find what I want in the Greenmarket near me (farmer's market), it's usually plastic free, but the berry containers in the supermarket or even the corner stand are all clamshells. If I'm lucky, they are made of the recyclable kinds of plastic (1,2, and 5 in NYC), otherwise it's landfill time.

114kidzdoc
Jul. 9, 2021, 8:34 pm

>103 EBT1002: Thanks for that recommendation of Signs for Lost Children, Ellen. I'll read it soon, perhaps as early as next week.

115ursula
Jul. 10, 2021, 6:00 am

We had made pretty decent strides in reducing plastic usage when we were in Fresno, including using the Bees Wraps. But it's a whole different ballgame here.

So many things are sold in plastic - even things like cherry tomatoes are on a tray and shrink-wrapped, or are sold in plastic cups. There was a whole thing a couple of months ago about how the EU was sending their plastic waste to Turkey to be "recycled" but it turned out it was being burned or dumped. (Shocking) Here's a Reuters article about it.

Sorry to just drop in with depressing plastic-related news!

116witchyrichy
Jul. 10, 2021, 11:10 am

Stopping by to say hello! And...I need that retirement count down app. My clock started July 1. The call for my position opens August 1. Thank goodness, we have a great board of directors and executive committee to lead the process.

May have to add Night Waking and Signs for Lost Children to the list as I've seen them recommended in a couple threads.

And thanks for the lovely pictures!

117benitastrnad
Jul. 11, 2021, 6:14 pm

I was glad to see that you use Bees Wrap. I can't find it here, but if I see it I am going to buy it. I have often wondered why cottage cheese and large yogurt containers are in hard plastic? Why can't they be sold in plastic bags?

I watch lots of TV cooking shows and the amount of plastic that is consumed in the form of bags and warp is huge! I don't know why they can't cut back on that and use reusable containers? Or at least use less of it.

>113 ffortsa:
I am another person who uses, reuses, and then reuses plastic food bags. Like you it has been over a year since I purchased a package of them.

118ffortsa
Jul. 12, 2021, 9:39 am

>117 benitastrnad: yay, us! I think I started just out of a sense of waste.

I don't know that plastic bags instead of rigid containers would make much if a difference. Maybe cardboard like Chinese takeout? I'm continually annoyed by how much plastic I get is not recyclable, although NYC seems to be more generous than most in what it will accept. Maybe I should just do less takeout!

And I like getting the premeasured food boxes from HelloFresh because I waste less food, but their shipping contains more plastic than I would want. After a few disasters with packaged chives that weren't used immediately, I bought a chive plant for the windowsill. Too bad I don't have garden space.

119karenmarie
Jul. 12, 2021, 9:47 am

Hi Ellen.

>39 EBT1002: Yikes. Wild bears and dangerous heat. Leaving early was a good idea. Poor Carson, but glad he’s settled back down.

I re-use baggies, but only if I don't have to use a lot of soap and water to get them clean for reuse. It's a tradeoff between one resource and another.

We have humid heat here in central NC. We use the air conditioner. We keep it at 74F. I was raised in the dry heat of SoCal, back when few folks had anything except a window AC unit or even a swamp cooler. My mom and dad 'broke down' in the 1990s and finally got whole house AC.

120EBT1002
Jul. 13, 2021, 12:15 pm

>112 laytonwoman3rd: Honestly, the Bees Wrap works better for me than it does for P, Linda. It takes a bit of patience, willingness to invest 30-60 seconds in getting it set on the bowl. :-)

>113 ffortsa: Yes, it is hard to avoid the plastic, Judy. We use mesh bags for produce, the Bees Wrap instead of "saran" wrap, and carry a glass leftovers holder with tight lid when we go to restaurants (this avoids Styrofoam more than plastic but both are so very bad), etc. We don't avoid it altogether - hard to live in our world today and do that! - but we do what we can do. I pull back to one of my favorite sayings about this kind of thing: "No one has to do everything, but everyone has to do something."

121EBT1002
Jul. 13, 2021, 12:19 pm

>114 kidzdoc: I hope you enjoy Signs for Lost Children, Darryl. You are the one who introduced me to Sarah Moss and I am so grateful!

>115 ursula: Glad to have you drop in and participate in the conversation, Ursula. Thanks for the link to the article. I think that kind of thing has been happening worldwide. Early in the pandemic, they suddenly told us they could only accept for recycling the plastics with a 1 or a 2 in the little triangle. It was so frustrating how many things were 5 or 6 or 7!!! And I am still not entirely confident about recycling practices....

>116 witchyrichy: Hi Karen. Congrats on your quickly approaching one-year mark! Mine is subject to change but it's good to have a general sense of the long game.

122EBT1002
Jul. 13, 2021, 12:22 pm

>117 benitastrnad: Hi Benita. I know you can order Bees Wrap on line here. Alternatively, if you PM me your address, I'll pick some up at my local retailer and send it along to you!

We reuse the ziplock bags we have on hand, as well. Multiple uses is better than single use! Also, P has gotten good at taking plastic bags we get from the grocery store -- bread bags, bags in which rolls come, bags they make us use for some produce -- and giving them to me to use for daily kitty litter scooping. I have used small paper sacks for that at times, but this at least reuses those plastic bags for something that I have to do anyway.

123EBT1002
Jul. 13, 2021, 12:31 pm

>118 ffortsa: Washington passed a law this year that all styrofoam take-out containers must be phased out of use by restaurants by 2023. I don't know why it's taking two full years for the phase out, but it's definitely something I support. Even our favorite local Chinese restaurant stopped using the cardboard containers and moved to styrofoam during the pandemic. We simply won't get take-out from any restaurant that doesn't use compostable containers. For leftovers, we take our own glass dish, one in which we can later reheat the leftovers, but for take-out we are pretty rigid about compostable.

>119 karenmarie: Hi Karen. Yes, it was an adventure of a camping trip. This past weekend we went to Walla Walla for some wine tasting with friends and the first night back was hell with regard to Carson. He meowed ALL NIGHT. I know he is just anxious but this has got to stop. Last night we managed to get some calming treats into him (he mostly scoffs at these, insisting that we clearly have no idea what a "treat" is) and he let us sleep until about 4am. Frankly, I'll take it.

"It's a tradeoff between one resource and another." I think that is one of the great challenges about trying to reduce our carbon footprint. We are humans. Our carbon footprint is by definition huge. I once read that the single most powerful thing anyone can do to reduce their carbon footprint is to not have children. That fact alone illustrates the huge impact of our species on the environment. After that, it's balancing the use of various resources and doing the very best we can.

It's finally cooling off a bit here with highs in the low 90s or upper 80s and lows in the mid 60s. The sky is smoky although the winds are carrying most of the fire-related smoke over toward Montana and Boise. It's going to be a tough couple of months. I will celebrate big time when we get our first fall rain (likely not until September).

124EBT1002
Jul. 13, 2021, 12:32 pm

I'm about 70% through The Center of Everything by Jamie Harrison, recommended by Beth. It is a good, complex read.

125BLBera
Jul. 13, 2021, 12:33 pm

I'm so glad you like it, Ellen! I loved the characters.

126EBT1002
Bearbeitet: Jul. 13, 2021, 1:50 pm

>125 BLBera: Yes! The characters are varied and multidimensional (and sometimes overwhelming in their number and organicity of presentation).

127msf59
Jul. 13, 2021, 6:20 pm

Hey, Ellen. I didn't see a recent retirement update? I hope I didn't miss anything. I am glad you requested Diary of a Young Naturalist. It is such a good memoir. I think we will be hearing much more from this promising young man.

128EBT1002
Jul. 13, 2021, 8:07 pm

>127 msf59: Still tentatively targeting August 2022, Mark. BUT... I'm having a "financial strategy" meeting with my boss and our top finance person tomorrow. We need to cut some central funding. Ugh. So.... I may see if there is some kind of win-win imbedded in this situation. If it means saving someone else's job, I'd be willing (oh, twist my arm) to retire sooner. And, while I am not willing to go down to 80% (because it would really translate to full time, we all know that), I would consider going to 50% or 60% for part or all of the next year. So, we'll see.

I'm going to purchase Diary of a Young Naturalist, I think. The local library doesn't have a copy. I will see if Seattle Public Library has an e-copy.

129richardderus
Jul. 13, 2021, 11:16 pm

>128 EBT1002: Oh boy oh joy! That would truly be the belle ideale of all possible outcomes. I shall give it my all energy-whammy-wise.

130lauralkeet
Jul. 14, 2021, 7:39 am

>128 EBT1002: adding to RD's energy. That would indeed be a win-win, Ellen.

131Caroline_McElwee
Jul. 14, 2021, 9:38 am

>128 EBT1002: Adding more to RD and Laura's energy.

I'd love to retire, but the earliest likely is 2024. I've yet to meet anyone who regretted retiring as early as they could from working for someone else.

132EBT1002
Jul. 14, 2021, 11:55 am

>129 richardderus: It really would be, Richard. Thanks for your energy-whammy!

>130 lauralkeet: Thanks Laura. I expect she will balk at first but it could solve more than one problem, as you say....

>131 Caroline_McElwee: Hi Caroline. Thanks for the additional energy. The only thing holding me back from retirement is the employer-supported health insurance. That cost will shift to me when I retire and it's no small thing. 50-60% would keep my health insurance benefits but also let me gradually slide into full retirement.

133EBT1002
Bearbeitet: Jul. 14, 2021, 12:01 pm

The Booker Longlist is released in about two weeks (July 27). Yesterday I watched an unknown person talk about her predictions on a YouTube video. The only one I had read is Detransition, Baby. I have of course heard a lot about Klara and the Sun, another of her predictions.

She also mentioned:

Second Place by Rachel Cusk
Fake Accounts by Lauren Oyler
Open Water by Caleb Azumah Nelson
This One Sky Day by Leone Ross (apparently Popisho in the U.S.)
Caul Baby by Morgan Jerkens
Sorrowland by Rivers Solomon
Assembly by Natasha Brown
Harlem Shuffle by Colson Whitehead
Luckenbooth by Jenni Fagan
Lean Fall Stand by Jon McGregor
China Room by Sunjeev Sahota

Thoughts?

134richardderus
Jul. 14, 2021, 12:20 pm

Sorrowland?!? Naaahhh, nowhere near Booker-worthy. Not even as good as How Late it Was, How Late and that was a truly craptastic read.

135BLBera
Jul. 14, 2021, 2:03 pm

>133 EBT1002: I am so bad at predictions, that it is almost a guarantee that any I mention will not make the list, Ellen.

I'm going to .8 in the fall, teaching 3 instead of 4 classes, easing into retirement. Right now I am enjoying my summer so much that this year may very well be my last. I am going to wait and see how the year goes, though. Once school starts, I usually am enthusiastic. I have the advantage of being of an age that makes me eligible for Medicare, so the health insurance issue is not a deal for me.

.5 sounds like it would be good for you?

136EBT1002
Jul. 14, 2021, 3:21 pm

>134 richardderus: I don't think the video blogger had even read that one, Richard. Truth: she hadn't read most of them but was trying to channel the Booker panel's likely predilections this year.

>135 BLBera: Hi Beth. I think .5 or .6 would work well for me. Our conversation got kind of sidelined until early August. That is probably for the best. My boss is going on vacation so will presumably come back well-rested. Also, we believe there will be some significant reorganization at very high levels of the university and that some kind of announcement will be made in August. Until we have a clearer sense of where the president and provost are headed, it's harder to make on-the-ground decisions. What they decide will most certainly affect my boss as she is a VP and currently reports to the president.

Yeah, figuring out how to manage health care until I'm eligible for Medicare is the sticky wicket for me. I've been putting funds away to cover the interim but it's not like I wouldn't love to spend some of that money on something else (like a trip to Scotland and Ireland!).

137msf59
Jul. 14, 2021, 6:50 pm

Hey, Ellen. Sorry, I did not see that you were continuing to work for another year. I hope you can still work something out but you will still be at a young age for retirement. I am currently enjoying Damnation Spring, set in the redwoods of the PNW. You may want to keep this one in mind.

138kidzdoc
Jul. 14, 2021, 8:34 pm

>133 EBT1002: The Mookse & the Gripes group on Goodreads, the former members of the Discussion Group on The Booker Prize website before the forum was shut down after excessive criticism of the controversial 2011 longlist, has a list of eligible books for this year's Booker Dozen, which is ranked by the number of members who chose each book. In order, the top 15 books on the list are:

Klara and the Sun by Kazuo Ishiguro
Transcendent Kingdom by Yaa Gyasi
The Living Sea of Waking Dreams by Richard Flanagan
Second Place by Rachel Cusk
The Yield by Tara June Winch
Assembly by Natasha Brown
The Committed by Viet Thanh Nguyen
Popisho by Leone Ross
Lean Fall Stand by Jon McGregor
No One Is Talking About This by Patricia Lockwood
Unsettled Ground by Claire Fuller
Open Water by Caleb Azumah Nelson
Panenka by Ronan Hession
The Promise by Damon Galgut
How Beautiful We Were by Imbolo Mbue

This rather traditionalist group, which I belong to but only lurk in, has, at best, a mixed record of choosing books that ultimately make the longlist, so I wouldn't put a lot of stock in this speculation list. It has become much more difficult to make an educated guess on the longlist, after authors from the United States were made eligible several years ago, and since I haven't read any of these books, and only own Transcendent Kingdom, I wouldn't begin to venture a guess on which ones will be chosen.

>136 EBT1002: I cut back to a 0.6 FTE (full time equivalent) last year, after my father's near fatal illness, in order to have more time to visit my parents. My parents' health, my desire to work at least until I'm eligible for Medicare and possibly until I'm eligible for full Social Security benefits, and my possible retirement to Portugal with friends later this decade, will determine how long I work, but I anticipate retiring within the next 5-7 years, as I just hit 60 in March. I'll know a lot more about retirement plans once I return to Lisbon, which will probably be in late September as long as vaccinated American tourists are still allowed to travel there.

139EBT1002
Jul. 15, 2021, 11:10 am

48. The Center of Everything by Jamie Harrison


Beth recommended this one to me and I'm so glad she did. It's not long but it is a long read. Polly has a head injury and we spend most of our time in her head as she works with her family to plan a birthday party for an elderly aunt and the community searches for a missing young woman, presumed dead after a kayaking accident on the Yellowstone River. The timeline goes back and forth between 2002 and 1968. This novel is rife with fascinating and funny and multidimensional characters (so many that it's sometimes a bit confusing). It is also filled with those moments of re-read -- when a passage is so beautifully rendered that it requires a re-read and just a moment of deep appreciation. It's not perfect; there were moments when I wanted Harrison to tighten up that narrative just a bit. But ultimately it was an emotionally satisfying read with so many memorable scenes, both in terms of story and in terms of, well, scenery.

140EBT1002
Jul. 15, 2021, 1:44 pm

>137 msf59: Duly noted, Mark. You know I love books set in my part of the world!

141BLBera
Jul. 15, 2021, 1:48 pm

>139 EBT1002: I'm so glad you liked it, Ellen. I think the head injury was well portrayed. And I also loved the setting.

142EBT1002
Jul. 15, 2021, 1:52 pm

>138 kidzdoc: Hi Darryl. Thanks for sharing that ranked list. I was surprised that when I googled Booker 2021 predictions, I found very little. I haven't really paid much attention to predictions in past years so I don't know why I'm curious this time around. On that list of fifteen, I have read Transcendent Kingdom and No One is Talking About This. Both are very good; the latter is more original (imo).

I would really love to go down to 0.6 FTE if I could truly work three days a week (rather than working close to full time and getting paid 60% of my base salary). I might even hang in there beyond my 62nd birthday, which will be in August 2022. I always planned to work until I was eligible for Medicare but this job has taken all the joy out of my work so I find myself crunching numbers to see how hard the hit will be if I have to start paying the medical insurance premiums. As we were first seeing the light at the end of the pandemic tunnel, there was talk about retirement incentives from the state to help address budget deficits. But the state's economy has recovered more quickly than anyone expected (it hasn't full recovered, but it's not as dire as everyone predicted). So, no incentives to retire early. I'm back to deciding how long I can stand it and how to balance quality of life with long term financial stability. Next month I turn the age my mother was when she died. She died of stroke(s) and of course I have already had my first of those. Part of me just thinks I'm not likely to live terribly long so I should just retire and get on with it. But then, what if I'm wrong??? So many "IF"s!!!!! LOL

143EBT1002
Bearbeitet: Jul. 15, 2021, 1:54 pm

>141 BLBera: Your outstanding record of successfully recommending books for me continues, Beth. I think you've only missed the mark once (and I don't even remember which one that might have been).

144BLBera
Jul. 15, 2021, 2:12 pm

Retirement is a big decision, Ellen. It's too bad this job is sucking the joy out of working. I think you would be wise to choose three days to work if you go part-time. When I tried part-time, I found that if I was scheduled for 8-12, for example, I always ended up having meetings scheduled at 1 pm, and being asked to stay, "just this once." Only it was never just one time. I tried working 2.5 days, which worked better, and switching to afternoons also worked.

I'm glad I don't miss the mark often, Ellen. It's so hard to recommend books.

145EBT1002
Jul. 15, 2021, 2:54 pm

>144 BLBera: Oh yeah, you are spot on, Beth. If I go down to 0.6 FTE, I will absolutely say I will work three days. And I won't even fight about which three days, but not five partial days.

Well, it may be hard to recommend books but you are darn good at it! Keep it up, my friend (not that I don't have plenty of other people recommending books around here - witness the burgeoning state of my TBR shelves and stacks!!).

146EBT1002
Bearbeitet: Jul. 15, 2021, 2:56 pm

Speaking of recommendations, my next read will be The Plot by Jean Hanff Korelitz which was recommended (not specifically to me, but generally) by Katie.

147katiekrug
Jul. 15, 2021, 3:49 pm

>146 EBT1002: - Oh, the pressure! It's a fun summer read. Don't expect too much...

148EBT1002
Jul. 15, 2021, 3:53 pm

>147 katiekrug: I read the first chapter while I ate my lunch just now, Katie. I can tell it's going to be exactly that -- a fun summer read. That is an excellent category into which to belong! (read: no pressure)

149EBT1002
Jul. 15, 2021, 4:03 pm

I'm off to the eye doc in just a few minutes. I feel like a cataract has been developing in my right eye so we'll see if surgery looms in my future. Or if I just need to get the right Rx and get over my resistance to wearing Rx glasses (progressives) instead of reading glasses. But my vision has definitely deteriorated in the past couple months. Kind of scary....

More soon. Happy Thursday afternoon to those where it's, you know, Thursday afternoon! :-)

150BLBera
Jul. 15, 2021, 4:26 pm

Good luck with the eye doctor. I was recently diagnosed with glaucoma, but the drops seem to be working, so fingers crossed.

Happy Thursday back at you!

151richardderus
Jul. 15, 2021, 5:32 pm

>149 EBT1002: I'm bettin' on presbyopia, not cataract development. 'Tis the (life) season after all.

152ArlieS
Jul. 16, 2021, 2:27 pm

>142 EBT1002: " I always planned to work until I was eligible for Medicare but this job has taken all the joy out of my work so I find myself crunching numbers to see how hard the hit will be if I have to start paying the medical insurance premiums."

I very much empathize with this, though sadly it's not just my current job.

Yesterday I emailed the benefits team to ask what COBRA would cost me. (I'm over 63 and a half, so could stay on COBRA until I can get onto Medicare.) I got an estimate a couple of years ago, and am checking to make sure it's still valid.

I really wish my jobs had remained enjoyable, but there's too much emphasis on social interaction, too much noise, etc. I got into programming knowing myself to be an introvert. I guess that's why programming managers stick us in open offices, sometimes reserving real walls for themselves - in a position requiring more social interaction.

I'm doing some last minute budgetting, but unless I get a bad surprise, I plan to retire as of the first of August.

And once I'm safely retired, and no longer working for The Man, I'll once again be able to do some of the work I love, without the crap management loves ;-)

153EBT1002
Jul. 16, 2021, 3:29 pm

>150 BLBera: I do have a cataract (well, two, but the one in the left eye is still quite small) but I'm not yet in need of surgery. That day will come. My eyes are otherwise very healthy (yay!) and I just need to come to terms with wearing corrective lenses. So on Tuesday I will go to the optician, choose another set of frames, and have two up-to-date Rx sets of glasses made for me, one regular and one with the "Transitions" technology. I'm glad the drops are working to manage your glaucoma.

And now we can say Happy Friday!!! (another yay!)

>151 richardderus: Well, it's a cataract, Richard. I have Posterior Subcapsular Cataracts, which are less common than Nuclear Sclerotic Cataracts. My high level of exposure to UV while growing up in Florida probably contributed to their development. The good news is that the one in the left eye is still quite small (I haven't even noticed any symptoms from that one) and the one in the right eye does not yet need surgery. AND I really liked the ophthalmologist I saw!

154EBT1002
Jul. 16, 2021, 3:33 pm

>152 ArlieS: Arlie, I am sorry your work has lost its luster. As someone who went into a very people-intensive career, my situation is different in some fundamental ways but the upshot is the same. Higher education has changed so much -- and, frankly, some of that is our own fault and some of that is the way higher ed gets utilized in political culture wars -- and I'm just tired of the drama, tired of managing so much risk, tired of feeling like the things that really need to change never change.

In any case, August 1 is just two weeks away!!!! Woo hoo!!!!

155richardderus
Jul. 16, 2021, 3:41 pm

>153 EBT1002: Oh, blast! Well, the surgery's a snap and the success rate is excellent, so when that day dawns it'll be fine.

Meanwhile, enjoy your new eyewear. The adjustment should be painless given how irritating the symptoms are.

156msf59
Jul. 16, 2021, 5:05 pm

Happy Friday, Ellen. I am all ready at the halfway through Damnation Spring. I like it. It shows good chops for a debut.

157EBT1002
Jul. 19, 2021, 11:29 am

>156 msf59: I'm glad you're enjoying that debut novel, Mark!

158EBT1002
Jul. 19, 2021, 11:30 am

I finished The Plot by Jean Hanff Korelitz over the weekend. I gave it 4 stars, a round-up from 3.75. I thoroughly enjoyed it but I also figured out the ending pretty early in, something I don't often do. I guess there was one twist imbedded within the final twist about which I was uncertain.... In any case, this was an excellent summer read. Thank you, Katie!

159EBT1002
Jul. 19, 2021, 11:31 am

I started All Systems Red last night. Too early to say but I think it's going to be a quick and fun read.

160jessibud2
Jul. 19, 2021, 12:22 pm

>158 EBT1002: - This author is apparently a cousin of Helene Hanff, of 84 Charing Cross Road fame. Never heard of her before you mention this book, though

161vivians
Jul. 19, 2021, 12:25 pm

I also just read The Plot on Katie's recommendation and after hearing the author interviewed on the NY Times podcast. I was so curious about the Hanff name, and googled to no avail. So thanks >160 jessibud2: for that familial information - I had been hoping to find a connection!

162richardderus
Jul. 19, 2021, 12:39 pm

>158 EBT1002: I landed at 3.5* because, I think, I had a similar issue. I'll do something this week about it...try to, at least.

163karenmarie
Jul. 20, 2021, 9:49 am

Hi Ellen!

>120 EBT1002: I checked out the Bees wrap but honestly, I’ve got quite a few BPA-free food containers so either use them or put a plate on top of a bowl in the refrigerator. Obviously to-go or left-overs are problematic with Styrofoam, and I still use plastic bags from the grocery store. Our grocery store has only recently started letting people use their own bags again because of Covid. I might experiment with triple-bagged brown paper bags with handles since I have quite a few of them here at the house. I am encouraged and inspired by the saying "No one has to do everything, but everyone has to do something."

>122 EBT1002: I use grocery store bags for the kitty stuff, although we don’t have sand-type litter so usually only have poops and once a week have the pads. No sand being traipsed around is a huge advantage of the Tidy Cat Breeze system. And the summer is a great boon for us because we have indoor-outdoor kitties and they do most of their business outdoors this time of year.

>142 EBT1002: You’ve got a lot to think about regarding retirement, for sure. Insurance, life expectancy issues, etc. I retired at 62 years 7 months and have never, ever regretted it. Of course my husband was still working at the same company I retired from so I still had excellent insurance until they laid him off… so for a while we paid through the nose for Obamacare. Husband got another job, we paid $350/month for insurance for me until I started on Medicare in 2018. It’s always something.

>149 EBT1002: and >153 EBT1002: Glad you’re taking care of your eyes and glad that you’re getting prescriptions that will help. Cataract surgery was a blessing for me, as night driving had become an issue. As soon as I said the magic words "quality of life is reduced" my eye doctor scheduled an appointment for me with the surgeon. My husband just had cataract surgery for both eyes recently.

164LovingLit
Jul. 20, 2021, 9:12 pm

>154 EBT1002: University had changed a LOT from my undergraduate days in the mid-90s, and my post-graduate days in the 2010s. A lot.
I still toy with the idea of further post-graduate study, but am cynical and sometimes feel it is all just a game. I just wanna think hard and read hard and talk with people who do the same :)

165EBT1002
Bearbeitet: Jul. 21, 2021, 11:36 am

I am so not a science fiction reader but I finished All Systems Red by Martha Wells last night. Four stars. I totally understand the LT love for the murderbot series. It was a fun read!

166EBT1002
Jul. 21, 2021, 11:26 am

>160 jessibud2: Katie recommended The Plot. I didn't know about the connection with Helene Hanff, of 84 Charing Cross Road fame -- I loved that book!!

>161 vivians: Interesting that your googling didn't turn up that sibling relationship, Vivian. Did you suspect that particular connection?

>162 richardderus: It was a fun read, eh, Richard?

167EBT1002
Bearbeitet: Jul. 21, 2021, 11:32 am

>163 karenmarie: Hi Karen. "Our grocery store has only recently started letting people use their own bags again because of Covid." Ours, too. I was frustrated at how long they kept that risk mitigation in place given how long we have known that covid is spread via air droplets, not contact with surfaces. One of our grocery stores would let us bring our own bags as long as we packed them ourselves (which I was happy to do) but the other prohibited them altogether until about a month ago. I'm glad my "saying" inspired and encouraged you. It actually comes from bystander intervention training, helping people feel empowered to intervene, even if only in small ways, when they see evidence of domestic or other violence occurring. I think it applies to so many elements of trying to be a good citizen.

'As soon as I said the magic words "quality of life is reduced" my eye doctor scheduled an appointment for me with the surgeon.' That sounds just like the doc I met with -- she said that when the cataract(s) affect my quality of life, that is the signal that it's time to schedule surgery. I'm not there yet but I expect to be within the next year or so.

168EBT1002
Bearbeitet: Jul. 21, 2021, 11:36 am

I have been reading Intimations: Six Essays by Zadie Smith (thank you, Beth). She wrote these short essays in the early months of the pandemic and they are just wonderful. More about them soon as I know I'll finish the last essay this evening.

I have been getting even more into jigsaw puzzles. A friend introduced me to "Karen Puzzles" YouTube channel and now I'm a wee bit obsessed. There are so many pretty and high-quality puzzles out there!

169EBT1002
Jul. 21, 2021, 11:36 am

>164 LovingLit: Oops, missed you up there Megan. Sorry about that. "I just wanna think hard and read hard and talk with people who do the same." Agreed! I sometimes think about auditing a class for that reason but I don't think it would be as fun as I would want it to be. I may have to settle for finding or starting a good book group once I retire.

170richardderus
Jul. 21, 2021, 12:32 pm

>166 EBT1002: It was! There were, erm, problems but the read went by so very easily. I posted a piece of my review...I won't do the whole thing because of the spoilerphobes.

171ffortsa
Jul. 21, 2021, 8:59 pm

>168 EBT1002: I've been obsessed for some time now with the jigsaw puzzles on my phone and tablet. Don't have to bend over a table or otherwise get myself in a twist. I especially love the bird and fish pictures. If I can get back to table puzzles, I have a bunch in the closet I'd love to do again.

172LovingLit
Jul. 22, 2021, 5:33 am

>169 EBT1002: I want to start a new RL book group too :) It will be deep discussion about several pre-named topics, and there will be a no-interruptions rule :)

I bought Intimations on my recent city break to Auckland (for perspective...Akl is the largest city in NZ, and it takes just over an hour to get there from here by plane). I heard it's a pretty dark read....or is that challenging (?)- or is *that* realism??!?! Haha, I will have to read it to see!!

173msf59
Jul. 22, 2021, 8:16 am

Sweet Thursday, Ellen. Hooray for All Systems Red. Glad you are now part of the Murderbot Fan Club. Intimations: Six Essays sounds good too. I have not read Smith in a long time.

174PaulCranswick
Jul. 22, 2021, 8:20 am

>168 EBT1002: I have heard so many good things about that collection, Ellen. I noticed in the bookstore today (it had a grand reopening after two months closed due to lockdown) that Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie has a collection of essays out too. One of my absolute favourite writers.

175EBT1002
Jul. 22, 2021, 11:30 am

50. Intimations: Six Essays by Zadie Smith


From her Foreword: "Talking to yourself can be useful. And writing means being overheard."

Written during the early months of the 2020 pandemic, this series of essays is personal, powerful, and thought-provoking. At moments delightfully humorous and at others deadly serious, Smith explores themes of isolation, racism, bodily integrity (take that, anti-vaxers), despair and hope. Beautifully written, this little volume is a keeper. Thank you for sending it my way, Beth.

176EBT1002
Jul. 22, 2021, 12:47 pm

>170 richardderus: *smooch*

>171 ffortsa: "If I can get back to table puzzles, I have a bunch in the closet I'd love to do again." This is a new concept for me, Judy. Karen Puzzles gave some tips for storing puzzles for the next time you put them together and I was taken aback. I also only very rarely reread books, so maybe it is the same kind of thing for me?

>172 LovingLit: Huh, I would not describe Intimations: Six Essays as a "dark" read, Megan. It has its serious moments (many of them) and she is certainly facing reality square on, but I did not find it disturbing or dark.

177EBT1002
Jul. 22, 2021, 12:49 pm

>173 msf59: Hi Mark and YES to Sweet Thursday. Now I just want it to be Happy Friday. :-)
Yes, I will continue reading the murderbot series although I doubt I'll commit to a completist agenda with it. I do recommend the Zadie Smith essay collection.

>174 PaulCranswick: Hi Paul! Oh, thank you for mentioning that Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie has a collection of essays newly out. I will seek that out as I also love her writing.

178Caroline_McElwee
Jul. 22, 2021, 4:18 pm

>175 EBT1002: Glad this was a hit for you Ellen. I know I will revisit it.

179FAMeulstee
Jul. 22, 2021, 4:27 pm

>176 EBT1002: >171 ffortsa: Could be, Ellen, I both reread and repuzzle (or should I say rejigsaw) ;-)
It all goes back to my youth, when the library books were done, I had to turn to the already read books at the shelves, and read my favorites again. Same for puzzles, I could do the same puzzle endlessly.

180BLBera
Jul. 23, 2021, 12:12 am

I'm glad you loved Intimations, Ellen. I need to finish it.

181kidzdoc
Jul. 23, 2021, 10:05 am

I'm glad that you enjoyed Intimations, Ellen. I'll put it on my list of books to read next month.

182ffortsa
Jul. 23, 2021, 11:40 am

>176 EBT1002: I wouldn't bother to rework most jigsaw puzzles, but the ones I've collected are all fine arts, and it's amazing what you can learn about a painting if you have to put it together in pieces. Not being an artist myself, I find it a good way to be more alert to the details and rhythms of a piece. But not at the moment. Rotator cuff problem, among other things. Aging bodies are frustrating.

183Berly
Jul. 31, 2021, 9:59 pm

Hello, Ellen! Sorry to hear about your eye, but at least it is manageable. And good luck with cutting down on the job to .5 or so and absolutely, thee days not 5 half days!!

>175 EBT1002: Both my twins liked this one so I will have to check out the Zadie Smith; I love her anyways. ; )

184EBT1002
Jul. 31, 2021, 10:55 pm

52. Fortune by Lenny Bartulin


I have mixed feelings about this novel. Ultimately, I really enjoyed it but it took some getting used to. Bartulin has said he wanted to illustrate the impact of momentous historical events -- war, earthquakes -- on the very micro level. This novel does that -- it follows a number of characters, each of whom was in Berlin the day Napoleon marched in on his white horse in 1806. None of them met the man (or even laid eyes on him) but each life is touched by the Napoleonic Wars. We follow each of them across time and around the globe. It is both delightful and confusing. This is not a long novel and with so many characters and stories, it's hard to keep them straight and a bit hard to connect in a meaningful way with the individuals. The stories are interesting; I found myself wishing each had more space. Could this have been a series of short novels instead? In any case, the historical landscape is fascinating and the narrative pace makes for a fun read. Recommended.

185EBT1002
Bearbeitet: Jul. 31, 2021, 11:18 pm

This afternoon I started The Unseen by Roy Jacobsen. I seem to be on a historical fiction kick.

186EBT1002
Bearbeitet: Jul. 31, 2021, 11:05 pm

This last week was a memorable one. The re-org of the university's administration got announced. My boss has been on vacation and the changes will impact her directly and she will not be happy about it. I and my peers just don't know what it will mean for us. I'm not terribly worried - the privilege of being so close to retirement, perhaps - but it could be a very long year. I have had a couple people express to me, either directly or indirectly, that they are hopeful that I might be positioned into more leadership at some point. We shall see. I will say that when I was called to the president's office on Tuesday, I went up there thinking my boss had either quit or been fired.... it turned out that, with her on vacation, they just needed me to take point for communicating the changes to leaders in our division. A bit anticlimactic but also a relief. I'm willing to step up if needed but not without ambivalence about the demands that would entail.

It has also been brutally hot and smoky here. Today we hit 103F. Tomorrow some relief is predicted with a high of 85F and next week we are expected to have a couple days with highs in the 70s!!! Hopefully this will help with fighting some of the fires that are burning up this corner of the country.

We've been watching some of the Olympics, although not as much as some years. I enjoy the swimming (I channeled Katie Ledecky when I swam my 1500 meters on Wednesday and Friday - ha!) and the track & field.

187EBT1002
Jul. 31, 2021, 11:08 pm

>178 Caroline_McElwee: I can well imagine rereading some of the essays in Intimations, Caroline.

>179 FAMeulstee: I've already given away some favorite jigsaw puzzles, Anita, but I'm going to think about keeping the next one that feels like a "five star" puzzling experience. If I have it on hand, I might feel the impulse to repuzzle it :-)

>180 BLBera: Like I said, Beth, the later essays captured my attention more than the first couple so I hope you finish it and enjoy doing so.

188EBT1002
Jul. 31, 2021, 11:11 pm

>181 kidzdoc: I'll be interested in how Intimations sits for you, Darryl.

>182 ffortsa: That is a great subset of puzzles to think about keeping for possible repuzzling, Judy. We did a quite difficult puzzle of Van Gogh's Sunflowers. It was early in our pandemic puzzling enterprise but now that I think I have developed my puzzling skills, I think I would enjoy repuzzling that one with an eye to learning more about the art work. Alas, it is long gone.

And to this: "Aging bodies are frustrating," I can only say I hear ya, sister!!!

189EBT1002
Jul. 31, 2021, 11:18 pm

>183 Berly: Hi Kim! I'm chuckling about the 0.5 thing. Given that I expect some major changes at the VP level in the coming months, I have almost stopped thinking about that. Haha. It may rise back to the forefront as things progress. I am truly taking it one day at a time.

I need to read more Zadie Smith. I've read White Teeth and Grand Union and now Intimations. I want to reread White Teeth and I have On Beauty and Swing Time on my shelves.

190EBT1002
Bearbeitet: Jul. 31, 2021, 11:30 pm

Beth posted this on her thread and I'm leaving this hear for reference as the second half of 2021 progresses.

The Millions Most Anticipated Books Second Half of 2021

191Familyhistorian
Jul. 31, 2021, 11:47 pm

Sorry to see your heat is soaring again, Ellen. We were supposed to have another heat wave but were under cloud cover all day which was kind of a welcome change. I even felt a few sprinkles - but you had to be outside to know it had happened.

Best of luck with the reorganization. Too bad your boss was away for the big reveal. I wonder how she'll take it.

192LovingLit
Aug. 1, 2021, 3:29 am

>175 EBT1002: I must have been thinking about another set of essays described to me as dark, as Intimations sounds great. I will get stuck into that colllection soon, I think.

193PaulCranswick
Aug. 1, 2021, 5:05 am

>189 EBT1002: I must follow you and read more Zadie Smith.

Lovely to see RL allow you time to post, Ellen. xx

194lauralkeet
Aug. 1, 2021, 7:43 am

Interesting developments for you at work, Ellen. I'm glad being called to the president's office turned out to be fairly innocuous. I hope you get some clarity soon so you can figure out what it means for your retirement.

195karenmarie
Aug. 1, 2021, 9:26 am

Hi Ellen!

>186 EBT1002: I’m glad that even though big changes may be coming you have retirement to look forward to and can avoid seriously-crazy-making worry.

Ugh. 103F. And smoky.

I’ve been enjoying the women’s soccer and, surprising for me, a bit of the women’s volleyball. Tomorrow is women’s soccer again – the US vs Canada. Now all I have to do is decide whether to get up at 4 a.m. to watch live or avoid news and watch it later.

196BLBera
Aug. 1, 2021, 10:19 am

Good luck with the job stuff, Ellen. I hope one of the effects is NOT more stress. :( I have been enjoying my summer so much that I think this year will be my last as well, so we will share retirement years. I told my daughter, who is enthusiastic and keeps asking me when I have to make the decision. I am waiting for school to start. Often I'm not enthusiastic about the end to summer, but once I'm back, I love it again. I'm waiting to see if that will happen.

It has been hot here, too. I think we've broken the record for days in the 90s. Next year, air conditioning for me. We've had hazy days here as well, but not as smoky as you, I imagine.

197richardderus
Aug. 1, 2021, 10:40 am

August is Women in Translation Month.

Just sayin'

198katiekrug
Aug. 1, 2021, 11:21 am

Hi Ellen! So sorry about the heat and smoke you're having to endure. We had a near Biblical flood here (okay, I may be exagerrating a little bit...) the other day. Very weird.

And oof about job uncertainty. I hope it doesn't add too much to your plate and/or stress level. My organization is working on a merger with another one and the idea of all that change was one of the reasons that led me to announcing my departure. It's just one thing after another...

Hang in there!

199Caroline_McElwee
Aug. 1, 2021, 12:02 pm

>186 EBT1002: Don't know how you cope with that heat Ellen. Glad it will get more comfortable soon, but even that would be too hot for me. We had a week in the 90s phew!

Hope the jiggery-pokery at work won't be too tiresome in the run up to your retirement. I can't imagine you being someone who wants an easy pitch, but this job(s) been more exertion and stress than fair for sure.

How's our friend Carson doing btw?

200laytonwoman3rd
Aug. 2, 2021, 3:08 pm

" My boss has been on vacation and the changes will impact her directly and she will not be happy about it." And the administration chooses to put the information out there in her absence? Doesn't that send a message to everyone else about her value to the system (whether accurate or not)? Sounds mean and shitty to me. I hope it doesn't mean more hip-deep wading for you.

201ArlieS
Bearbeitet: Aug. 3, 2021, 1:26 pm

>182 ffortsa: Yeah, I sure hear you about the aging bodies.

>200 laytonwoman3rd: What laytonwoman3rd said. Are they suggesting that your boss find a new job elsewhere? And was she really on vacation, or disguising some interviews?

202banjo123
Aug. 5, 2021, 12:57 am

Hi Ellen! I hope that you can stay a bit calm with the work changes. Being closer to retirement does help me (but only so much)

203Berly
Aug. 6, 2021, 1:53 am

More drama and uncertainty on the job front. Yeesh. Hope you come through the changes okay. I know you are a survivor, but I'd like your path to be an easy one at this point. My thoughts are with you.

Heading back to check out the list in >190 EBT1002:!!

204BLBera
Aug. 8, 2021, 1:46 pm

Bechdel rocks! I just finished The Secret to Superhuman Strength, and it was wonderful. I hope she keeps going.

205Familyhistorian
Aug. 10, 2021, 8:29 pm

The prediction here is for a third heatwave. Hope it doesn't reach as far as you, Ellen.

206richardderus
Aug. 11, 2021, 11:28 am

Oh Ellen, how nasty to anticipate a heat wave! I reviewed From the Caves today, a cli-fic novella that I think you had oughta read here pretty quick.

207Berly
Aug. 11, 2021, 9:27 pm

Thinking of you as we weather another heat wave. I still don't have AC. SOB!!!

208EBT1002
Bearbeitet: Aug. 16, 2021, 11:49 am

The 2021 longlist, or ‘The Booker Dozen’, of 13 novels, is:

A Passage North by Anuk Arudpragasam ~~ currently reading
Second Place by Rachel Cusk
The Promise by Damon Galgut
The Sweetness of Water by Nathan Harris
Klara and the Sun by Kazuo Ishiguro
An Island by Karen Jennings
A Town Called Solace by Mary Lawson
No One is Talking About This by Patricia Lockwood
The Fortune Men by Nadifa Mohamed
Bewilderment by Richard Powers
China Room by Sunjeev Sahota
Great Circle by Maggie Shipstead
Light Perpetual by Francis Spufford

209maggie1944
Aug. 15, 2021, 10:07 pm

It is "warmish" in Bellevue, and sometimes we have some disappearing smoke in the air, but not so much as to make me uncomfortable. Whew. Heat is enough. Poor dog looks around trying to find a place to lay flat and cool off.

Nevertheless, I am still so grateful to live in this corner of the Pac NW, and I think even with the current changes, it is still very livable.

210EBT1002
Aug. 16, 2021, 11:49 am

I've updated >208 EBT1002:

In other words, I'm still around and I'm still reading. The job situation is getting interesting......

211richardderus
Aug. 16, 2021, 12:10 pm

>210 EBT1002: Hi there, Ellen! I can only imagine how interesting things're getting...hoping your world's staying stable.

*smooch*

212lauralkeet
Bearbeitet: Aug. 16, 2021, 12:29 pm

>208 EBT1002: Hi Ellen! I'm thrilled to see 5 stars next to the Mary Lawson book. I just requested that from my library yesterday. I've enjoyed her work in the past so I have high hopes.

I hope the interestingness of work isn't causing you too much stress.

213BLBera
Aug. 16, 2021, 3:02 pm

>210 EBT1002: That sounds intriguing... and, like Laura, I hope it isn't a stressful interestingness...

214EBT1002
Aug. 16, 2021, 5:42 pm

Okay, a bit of out-of-order catch up here.

>211 richardderus: Hey Richard. What's interesting is that my boss has functionally been demoted. Instead of reporting directly to the president, she will transition this year to reporting to the provost. I wondered if she would come back from vacation, but she did. None of us knows how this year will unfold -- my boss and provost (this is widely known) are not, um, best of friends. I know I'm in good standing with prez, provost, and all others who matter, so I feel a bit like someone settling in for an interesting movie....

>212 lauralkeet: I may downgrade it to 4.5 stars, Laura, but in any case I absolutely loved it. There is a very memorable cat within. :-)

See my note to Richard here^. Not too stressful yet. It's also weird (and kinda fun) to be doing things like helping with residence hall move-in and thinking to myself "this can darn well be the last time I ever do this."

>213 BLBera: Hi Beth. Not too stressful. Almost freeing..... I don't doubt the year will have its moments (and the fact that we are certainly not "emerging from" the pandemic will add to that) but I'm feeling rather philosophical about the whole thing.

215EBT1002
Aug. 16, 2021, 5:46 pm

>191 Familyhistorian: Hi Meg and thanks for stopping by. I am tired of the heat and, for the past week or so, the terrible air quality. Today the AQI finally made its way down into single digits and the rest of the week is supposed to be much cooler. If only we could have some of that rain you mentioned!!

>192 LovingLit: Enjoy, Megan!

>193 PaulCranswick: Thanks so much, Paul. Sorry to have let so much of August get away without more posting!

>194 lauralkeet: Hey Laura. My boss asked me the other day "so what are your current thoughts about retirement?" and I said "I'm still looking at next August." It feels so freeing to be able to say this out loud, unapologetically even though her world has been rocked by the org changes.

216EBT1002
Aug. 16, 2021, 5:50 pm

>195 karenmarie: Hi Karen. Things feel eerily quite right now with regard to the reorganization. I don't expect them to stay that way but I feel remarkably secure and Zen about the whole thing. It mattered to me that others around the university don't bunch me with my boss, but see me as a separate professional with my own opinions and my own leadership style. I have been amply assured that this is the case. Whew.

>196 BLBera: "...we will share retirement years." YAY!!!! I'm feeling so good about next August. If something unexpected happens and I find myself faced with an opportunity to stay just one more year and make a solid positive difference, I will consider that. But I feel really grounded in knowing this is my last year. It takes a layer of stress right off the pile!

>197 richardderus: This is what happens when I take a hiatus from LT, Richard. I miss things like the note that August is Women in Translation month. Hmm, I do have a couple of weeks to go....

217EBT1002
Aug. 16, 2021, 5:58 pm

>198 katiekrug: Heat, smoke, floods, earthquakes, hurricanes..... If I weren't an avowed atheist, I'd be talking about End of Days. I mean, part of me still thinks we are witnessing the end of the world but it doesn't feel biblical. ;-)

Knowing you're moving on to something else is amazingly freeing, is it not?

>199 Caroline_McElwee: Hi Caroline. The smoke finally eased today and the heat is supposed to break tomorrow. Finally! We just so desperately need rain. I need Katie to send me some of hers!

Mr. Carson is doing quite well, thank you for asking. He continues to be his high-maintenance self but he also has such a delightful streak. Last evening we were watching the telly and he hopped right up on the back of the couch, put one paw down along the side of my neck, and collapsed into sleep on my head. I loved it.

>200 laytonwoman3rd: Very good point, Linda. They did communicate with her and give her an opportunity to engage.... and to her credit she essentially said "I'm on vacation; I'll deal with it when I return." She is no dummy. She said the other day that her currency around the administration is very low right now and she is thinking about how to deal with that. They may not be trying to push her out but they are certainly not making an effort to make her want to stay. I think the message was clear and exactly what they meant it to be.

>201 ArlieS: Well, she was on vacation but had been coming and going some (so, not full-on vacation). After the interaction about the change in her role, she -- understandably -- drew the line such that her vacation was more real. Part of what is difficult is that her observations about the university are not necessarily wrong; how she goes about addressing them is difficult.

218EBT1002
Aug. 16, 2021, 6:01 pm

>202 banjo123: Being closer to retirement helps me, too, Rhonda. For now, it seems to be helping quite a bit. I'm also scheduling as many mini-vacations as I can over this year. Calling them stepping stones....

>203 Berly: Hey Kim. I am indeed a survivor and am feeling oddly peaceful now that I know my boss isn't going to just up and quit. She may or may not make it through the year and I'd be surprised if she stays beyond this year, but I know I'm just going to focus on what is within my own lane.

Lists are fun!!

>204 BLBera: Oh good, I'm glad you enjoyed Secret to Superhuman Strength. I agree -- Bechdel rocks!

219EBT1002
Aug. 16, 2021, 6:06 pm

>205 Familyhistorian: We got that same heatwave, Meg. It's supposed to break tomorrow....

>206 richardderus: Thanks for the rec, Richard. I will investigate. When did cli-fic become a thing? (that is mostly a rhetorical question)

>207 Berly: Lord, I don't know how I would have survived this summer without A/C, Kim, especially with the air quality so bad here. This past week it has been cooling off at night but it's so smoky we can't open the doors/windows. Hoping that changes tonight!!

>209 maggie1944: Hi Karen! My sister was asking me yesterday if I still want to retire to the west side of the Cascades with all the fires. I think she was picturing our beautiful conifer forests completely destroyed. We may get there yet but in the meantime I'm all about moving back to the corner of the PNW that you and I both love so much. I don't believe there is any escaping climate change so I might as well spend whatever years I have left in the place I love most.

Hang in there, my friend.

220EBT1002
Bearbeitet: Aug. 16, 2021, 6:25 pm

I've completed three books so far in August. It has been a good month.

53. The Unseen by Roy Jacobsen, 4.5 stars -- I really loved this novel. Jacobsen's prose is spare, just like the desolate Norwegian Island on which the novel is set, and his characters are tough and hardscrabble. Set about 100 years ago, as the "modern age" begins to find this isolated location, the novel gives us the Barroy family. Making their living largely on fishing, dealing with loss and intrusion by the outside world... but mostly this is a witness to the relentless roll of time. Birth, life, death.... this novel explores these in all their profundity but questions their larger meaning. Absolutely beautiful.

54. The Distant Echo by Val McDermid, 4 stars -- an engrossing and complex thriller/mystery introducing Karen Pirie to her readers. A woman is discovered by four college men wandering drunkly home from their evening. She has been raped, stabbed, and left for dead. The four good friends find themselves in the crosshairs of the investigation but no solid proof develops. Twenty-five years later, in light of investigative technological advances, the case is opened as part of a larger "cold case" review. The four friends have not stayed close and we learn about the intervening years, the impact of their experiences as prime suspects, and, of course, new deaths begin occurring. Are they indeed innocent or will the new techniques point the finger at one or more of them?

55. A Town Called Solace by Mary Lawson, 5 stars -- I love love loved this novel. Set in northern Ontario, it is the story of seven-year-old Clara, her elderly neighbor and friend, Elizabeth, and Liam, a 30-something man who inherits Elizabeth's house. Clara's older sister has gone missing and she finds solace in taking care of Elizabeth's cat, Moses, while Elizabeth is in hospital. No spoiler here - Elizabeth passes and so enters Liam. He is recently separated from his wife and wondering what to do next with his life. The narrative alternates between the three (Elizabeth is the only one in first-person - to excellent effect) and gradually unravels the history that connects the three. The story is compelling, the setting (yes, a town called Solace) is charmingly wrought, and the characters (including Moses!) are among my favorites of the year. Booker Prize Long List.

221EBT1002
Aug. 16, 2021, 6:24 pm

Now I'm reading A Passage North by Anuk ArudPragasam, also Long-listed for the Booker Prize.

222jessibud2
Aug. 16, 2021, 6:44 pm

>214 EBT1002: - Well, good to hear that it isn't too stressful. Just make sure you don't get sucked into *staying* longer, to help anyone out..... Please remember that not only do you WANT to retire, but you also probably need to, for the stress this job has placed on your shoulders the last few years. You want to bring good health into your retirement, right? And...the job will continue whether or not you are there to *help* it along.

Stepping away from the lecture podium..... ;-)

223msf59
Bearbeitet: Aug. 16, 2021, 7:01 pm

>208 EBT1002: I just finished and loved Second Place. Hooray for the Lawson. I will also watch your thoughts on A Passage North. Of course, the Powers is also on my radar.

Hi, Ellen. I hope you are doing well.

224richardderus
Aug. 16, 2021, 7:08 pm

Ohhhhh wow...ppl been payin' attention to Bosslady's effects! Demoted, at that level, is careericide.

*popcorn bowl*

225BLBera
Aug. 16, 2021, 10:06 pm

The Lawson sounds wonderful, Ellen, as do your other reads! But especially the Lawson. I just happened to order it, and it should be in my hands this week.

226charl08
Aug. 17, 2021, 12:39 am

I loved the Lawson too, Ellen. And the Bechdel. A lovely shiny copy of A Passage North just came from the library, so hoping that it is as good as the other booker ones I've read.

Glad to read that the planned retirement is taking the edge off some of the office pressure. My institution is going for a close to full on return to campus/ classes, so it will be interesting to see what next month brings.

227karenmarie
Aug. 17, 2021, 8:29 am

Hi Ellen!

>214 EBT1002: My my. Functionally demoted. It's good to hear that you're enjoying the fall activities weirdness and acknowledging "this can darn well be the last time I ever do this." Kinda keeps it all in perspective.

>220 EBT1002: I’m glad you enjoyed the first Karen Pirie mystery. I’ve read all six. The last one only came out last October, so there will be a long wait for the next.

228lauralkeet
Aug. 17, 2021, 9:40 am

I feel a little bit sorry for your boss, Ellen. But mostly I feel heartened. From what you’ve shared about your work environment it seems the demotion was appropriate and I’m glad the powers that be saw things for what they were.

229vivians
Aug. 17, 2021, 10:12 am

Hi Ellen - you're making great progress with the Booker longlist. I'm waiting for my library copy of A Passage North and just started The Promise last night. I've never read any Val McDermid - your review is very encouraging!

230EBT1002
Aug. 17, 2021, 12:23 pm

>222 jessibud2: All good reminders, Shelley. I had a terrific insight during my morning swim. I worry about the cost of health care premiums between the date of my retirement and my eligibility for Medicare, our U.S. health care system being what it is.... I have been putting money into a specific savings account earmarked just for this cost. I started it about 2-3 years ago and I have been able to put enough away that, if I retire in Aug 2022, I should have the estimated cost for the next three years in that account. AND... I keep thinking that every month I work is a month for which I don't have to cover the expensive premiums. I've been struggling with feeling like I'm "wasting" the opportunity to have my employer cover that expense until I'm 65 years old. SO, during my swim, I realized that what I'm "buying" with that money I've been saving is Free. Time. If I can think of it as buying Free. Time. rather than buying health insurance, it makes it feel totally worth it!

231jessibud2
Aug. 17, 2021, 12:26 pm

>230 EBT1002: - Excellent! And between now and Aug. 2022, think of the extra padding that savings account will give you. Not just free time but COMFORTABLE time, too and peace of mind. All good!

232EBT1002
Aug. 17, 2021, 12:30 pm

>223 msf59: Hi Mark! I think A Passage North will end up being one of my lesser-liked entries into this year's Booker competition. It's good and it's worthwhile but I don't think it will live up to a couple of the others. I'm in the library queue for Second Place as well as most of the other long-listed novels. I've not yet read Rachel Cusk but have been wanting to do so. I own one or two of hers.

>224 richardderus: *popcorn bowl* indeed, Richard. That is how I feel! Last week she was bouncing off the walls. This week she seems calmer. In about 50 weeks I'm outta here, so....

>225 BLBera: I think (hope) you will love A Town Called Solace, Beth.

>226 charl08: Hi Charlotte. So far, A Passage North is good but not blowing me away. It's still a bit early, though. I read in a review in The Guardian that "...the author unwinds his story in long flowing sentences that are stretched with participial phrases and subordinate clauses." Yup. That review is here.

233EBT1002
Aug. 17, 2021, 12:31 pm

Gotta run to a meeting. More catch-up later.

234lauralkeet
Aug. 17, 2021, 12:37 pm

>230 EBT1002: Wonderful insight, Ellen.

235katiekrug
Aug. 17, 2021, 12:53 pm

>230 EBT1002: - This is brilliant, Ellen. My biggest hang-up about leaving was giving up the ridiculously generous 401(k) match :)

236EBT1002
Aug. 17, 2021, 1:10 pm

>227 karenmarie: Hi Karen. Keeping it all in perspective. That is my mantra!

I believe I read the second Karen Pirie novel a couple years ago so I may skip right over that one and on to the third. Val McDermid gives us good, tight writing.

>228 lauralkeet: Honestly, Laura, I am not without empathy for my boss. She is not a bad person, just controlling and impulsive and drama-prone. I think it hurts terribly for her to realize how low her currency is at present. Her inability to see what her own contributions to the situation have been continue to be frustrating but I'm watching to be sure I don't get caught in a loyalty test trap. But I do have empathy for her.

>229 vivians: I think you would like Val McDermid's work, Vivian.
The Promise is one on the long list that I have not yet put on hold at the library. I need to fix that. How are you liking it so far?

237jnwelch
Aug. 17, 2021, 1:14 pm

Murderbot! Hooray! Great to have you in the fan club.

Sorry to hear about the dangerous weather and the jiggery-pokery at work. That’s fascinating about your demoted boss. All the drama will make your retirement that much more of a relief when the time comes.

I’m another one who started The Secret to Superhuman Strength. Very good so far.

238EBT1002
Aug. 17, 2021, 1:15 pm

>231 jessibud2: It was a good insight, wasn't it, Shelley? I started the account with the idea of retiring Aug 2022 so it's going to work out exactly as I planned.

>234 lauralkeet: It was a great moment, Laura. Swimming is turning out to provide me with good thinking time just the way running used to do!

>235 katiekrug: I hear ya, Katie. It is hard to give up that "extra" incentive. I'm glad you were also able to see through that to the assurance that time is our most precious resource.

239EBT1002
Aug. 17, 2021, 1:16 pm

>237 jnwelch: Hi Joe! I was pleasantly surprised by Murderbot. What a great character!

And I'm glad you're enjoying Secret to Superhuman Strength. I need to find another GN to read.... I should come check out your thread for recommendations.

240EBT1002
Aug. 17, 2021, 1:24 pm

>232 EBT1002: Interestingly, here is a somewhat different take on Arudpragasam's writing style in A Passage North:

"Every aspect of the world Krishan inhabits is subject to scrutiny. In sentences of unusual beauty and clarity, Arudpragasam observes even the most mundane of actions — smoking a cigarette, waiting for a train, making eye contact with a stranger — with an attention so absolute it feels devotional."

From this NYT review

241BLBera
Aug. 17, 2021, 2:00 pm

Hi Ellen - When I finish Great Circle, which is a Tome, I have a copy of A Passage North waiting for me. It's interesting to see the varied reviews.

242EBT1002
Bearbeitet: Aug. 17, 2021, 2:33 pm

>241 BLBera: How is Great Circle, Beth?

243BLBera
Aug. 17, 2021, 5:25 pm

It's good so far. Have a good day tomorrow. Do you have special plans for your birthday?

244EBT1002
Aug. 17, 2021, 6:25 pm

>243 BLBera: I'm working but when I get home, my birthday dinner will be a BLT and cherry pie for dessert. And we'll share a really nice bottle of red.
Thanks for remembering!

245lauralkeet
Aug. 17, 2021, 6:26 pm

Oh! Happy birthday Ellen!

246Caroline_McElwee
Aug. 18, 2021, 5:10 am

Adding birthday greetings Ellen.

Ha, the mention of cherry pie always makes me think of 'Twin Peaks'.

247PaulCranswick
Aug. 18, 2021, 6:10 am

Happy birthday, dear Ellen.

248jessibud2
Aug. 18, 2021, 7:12 am

Happy birthday, Ellen! (I used to take my birthday off. Always said I had an *appointment* that day. No one had to know it was with myself! Just a thought...;-)

249kidzdoc
Aug. 18, 2021, 7:26 am

Happy Birthday, Ellen! I have a gift for you:



Can I borrow it when you're finished?

250scaifea
Aug. 18, 2021, 8:04 am

Happy birthday, Ellen! I hope you have a wonderful day!

251richardderus
Aug. 18, 2021, 9:20 am

Happy birthday! And because it's so darn hot, here's a reminder of Wintertime to r=tide you over:

252Caroline_McElwee
Aug. 18, 2021, 9:44 am

>248 jessibud2: Me too Shelley, haven't worked a birthday for 20 + years, in fact I take two weeks holiday at that time now.

253jnwelch
Aug. 18, 2021, 10:02 am

Happy Birthday, Ellen!

254drneutron
Aug. 18, 2021, 10:08 am

Happy birthday!

255katiekrug
Aug. 18, 2021, 10:15 am

Happy Birthday, Ellen! Enjoy that BLT and pie. And the wine!

256karenmarie
Aug. 18, 2021, 10:21 am

Happy Birthday, Ellen!

257EBT1002
Aug. 18, 2021, 12:53 pm

Thanks for the birthday wishes everyone. I went for a swim this morning and it felt so good, as always.

Darryl, thanks for the retirement counter -- I'm at 346 days now. :-)

258streamsong
Aug. 18, 2021, 12:56 pm

Happy Birthday, Ellen!

BLT's are heaven this time of year!

I'm glad things are becoming clearer and I hope, easier at work. I love your attitude.

Yes, the insurance is a very big thing. I am currently learning about how Medicare would work with my current insurance and trying to figure out the best way to go. Since I am diabetic, I take two very expensive medicines. Anyway I look at it, so far it looks like I will be paying much more for my prescriptions and therefore more for healthcare once I am on Medicare. It's not too early to start investigating the type of co-coverage you may need or want along with your Medicare premiums.

259Berly
Bearbeitet: Aug. 18, 2021, 2:37 pm

260quondame
Aug. 18, 2021, 5:27 pm

Happy Birthday!

Next year in.. well freedom?

261msf59
Bearbeitet: Aug. 18, 2021, 6:27 pm



^I hope you are having a great day, my friend.

262ronincats
Aug. 18, 2021, 9:23 pm

Happy Birthday, Ellen!!!!!

263EBT1002
Aug. 19, 2021, 5:45 pm

>258 streamsong: Thanks Janet. The complicatedness of navigating Medicare (and, indeed, Social Security) makes my head hurt. Why on Earth we have to make these things so complicated is beyond me. Okay, it's actually not beyond me but it makes me crazy!!

Thanks for the additional birthday wishes, Kim, Susan, Mark, and Roni!

264EBT1002
Bearbeitet: Aug. 19, 2021, 5:54 pm

A bit beyond the halfway mark in A Passage North and I am finding it to be a slow, satisfying, and frustrating slog. The reviews I have read that note his profound observation of the minute elements of each situation are spot on. And that observation, that close and reverent attention to even mundane detail is satisfying. It is also slow and meditative. My reader's mind wanders. I get frustrated by that, by my experience of inattention to his narrative, and that frustration is sometimes directed at the author. But then I get caught up again in the reverence, in the tacit acknowledgement that each moment's experience is, all by itself, both all there is and sacred for being that.

It's an unusual reading experience.

265brenzi
Aug. 19, 2021, 6:47 pm

Belated Happy Birthday Ellen! Happy to see you liked A Town Called Solace. I read it when it first came out. I've read all her books and this one was good but certainly not my favorite. You should probably look for some of her other books as you'd probably love them. Others from the Booker list that I've read include Great Circle, Light Perpetual, The Sweetness of Water and I have The Fortune Men on my shelf. It will be my next read. Of those I've read my favorites were Great Circle and Light Perpetual. Which pretty much insures that they'll never win lol. I think the list this year is really excellent.

266LovingLit
Aug. 19, 2021, 9:41 pm

>264 EBT1002: When I saw this book mentioned I immediately thought of Farthest North: The Epic Adventure of a Visionary Explorer by Fridtjof Nansen (I loved it). I went through an Arctic phase a while back :) Presently I am in a 'the London Blitz' phase...

My mind often wanders when listening to an audiobook, but I find that reading words on a page is usually enough to keep me focussed. Your reading experience with A Passage North does sound interesting!

267richardderus
Aug. 20, 2021, 3:59 pm

Ellen, ***SWEAR*** you won't tell P where you found out what the 2021 Olive Editions were!

268EBT1002
Aug. 22, 2021, 10:54 am

The 2021 longlist, or ‘The Booker Dozen’, of 13 novels, is:

A Passage North by Anuk Arudpragasam
Second Place by Rachel Cusk
The Promise by Damon Galgut
The Sweetness of Water by Nathan Harris
Klara and the Sun by Kazuo Ishiguro
An Island by Karen Jennings
A Town Called Solace by Mary Lawson
No One is Talking About This by Patricia Lockwood
The Fortune Men by Nadifa Mohamed
Bewilderment by Richard Powers
China Room by Sunjeev Sahota
Great Circle by Maggie Shipstead
Light Perpetual by Francis Spufford

269EBT1002
Aug. 22, 2021, 10:59 am

>265 brenzi: Hi Bonnie. I finished A Passage North yesterday and I'm giving it 3.5 stars. I feel like my ratings are wonky this year. I absolutely loved A Town Called Solace but, in all honesty, I think A Passage North is the better, more original novel. My ratings reflect my enjoyment rather than my appreciation, perhaps?

I have read Crow Lake by Mary Lawson, gave that one 4.5 stars. Again, I think it's probably actually a wee bit better than A Town Called Solace but ATCS just spoke to me perfectly in the moment I read it. I mean, Moses is such a great cat!

>266 LovingLit: Hi Megan. I ended up really appreciating A Passage North and I may upgrade my rating after a few days.

>267 richardderus: Mum's the word, Richard. Thanks for the link!

I have several chores on the docket for today and I'm feeling a bit achey and mildly feverish after having my second Shingles vaccine yesterday. I know I need to set up a new thread!

270EBT1002
Aug. 22, 2021, 11:01 am

I meant to mention, I'm reading In a Lonely Place by Dorothy B. Hughes. It is so good.

271richardderus
Aug. 22, 2021, 11:16 am

>270 EBT1002: It really, really is. I adore her. The Delicate Ape is my favorite, though I think you might not like it too much...it's set in 1955 from a 1943 viewpoint, and is hilariously unlike the real 1955 but is also a taut political thriller.

>269 EBT1002: The shingles vaccine is another one that ends up being pretty demanding, eh? As it's not covered by Medicare, I won't be getting it.

Appreciation is a perfectly valid alternative metric to enjoyment, and vice versa. One need never commit to one and only one method of understanding, explaining, or reviewing art.

Happy Sunday, my dear Ellen.

272benitastrnad
Aug. 22, 2021, 12:31 pm

I had scheduled a shingles shot but the appointment was for the first week of the semester. I canceled it as I don't want to be feeling bad when I have so many orientations to lead. However, as it turned out, I did something to my back earlier last week and have spent this entire weekend in the house napping and reading. Just generally taking it easy. I am shooting for first shingles vaccination in two weeks. That way I can spend the entire Labor Day weekend doing nothing but reading.

273maggie1944
Aug. 22, 2021, 2:00 pm

Yikes, I scrolled all the way through these last postings which I've not come here to see before now.

Yes, west side of the mountains is quite lovable. We have had some quite warm days but not horrible. I am able to stay in my apt. with doors closed and fans on. No "air conditioning". Now it is overcast with marine air and quite cool. Some breeze and no smoky air, as far as I've been able to tell.

I am reading Mad Enchantment by Ross King. It is kind of a biography of Claude Monet, specifically about the time he painted The Water Lilies. It begins before WWI, and is a bit of social history of France, and the art world there, at the time. I am only about 20% into it, but with my interest in French history I am enjoying it. Also, I spend considerable amount of time watching the Seattle Storm on the basketball court, and when they are collecting yet again - trophies. Sue Bird: four championships, and five gold metals. She is now 41 years old and still playing professional basketball. Would that we all could be so careful about our diets, conditioning, and health! We could live forever, maybe.

274BLBera
Aug. 22, 2021, 3:39 pm

I'll watch for your comments on A Passage North, Ellen. Sorry you're under the weather after your shingles vaccine. I felt fine after mine. The second COVID shot was another story! I was miserable for a couple of days after that one.

275kidzdoc
Aug. 22, 2021, 3:55 pm

The second Shingrix shot absolutely kicked my rear end earlier this year, much more so than the second Pfizer-BioNTech jab. Having seen adult patients with shingles in medical school and remembering how miserable I felt when I contracted chickenpox as a high school sophomore I'll gladly take those Shingrix side effects over even a mild case of shingles.

276benitastrnad
Aug. 22, 2021, 8:26 pm

>273 maggie1944:
I read Mad Enchantment by Ross King and loved it! After reading it I put the Orangery on my bucket list. If I ever make it to Paris I will go there to see those paintings. I will also try to make it to his home, studio, and gardens to see them in situ as well.

277Berly
Aug. 22, 2021, 10:13 pm

If you already had shingles do you need to get the vaccination? Ugh.

My reading and books have all been wonky this year. Oh well!! ; )

278EBT1002
Aug. 23, 2021, 11:56 am

>271 richardderus: I put In a Lonely Place on hold at the library at your suggestion, Richard, and I'm so glad I did. I didn't have much focus for reading this weekend, what with the shivers and aches, but I'm very much enjoying the read!

"One need never commit to one and only one method of understanding, explaining, or reviewing art."
I like that so much.

279EBT1002
Aug. 23, 2021, 12:00 pm

>272 benitastrnad: I had no reaction at all to the first shingles shot, Benita, other than a mildly sore arm. This is by far the most significant vaccine reaction I have ever had. And it's totally worth it if I don't get shingles! Also, as I know you know, just because I had a tough reaction doesn't mean that is common or that it will happen to you.

>273 maggie1944: Hi Karen! We are now having what I think of as that Pacific Northwest Amazing Summer -- bluebird days in the 70s. No smoke to speak of. I plan to enjoy it while it's here.

Mad Enchantment sounds interesting!

280Berly
Aug. 23, 2021, 1:10 pm

Loving the weather this week in the Pacific NW!!! Enjoy!

281richardderus
Aug. 23, 2021, 1:27 pm

>278 EBT1002: I'm glad it resonated! I wish more people would process that truth...so many want there to be ONE WAY TO BE, whatever it is they're fanatical about. I find that intolerable! I don't think there's a single thing in my life, or in my living self, that's remained Only One Way. Everything you see is what you get; but there's no guarantee it'll be the same tomorrow.

282EBT1002
Aug. 25, 2021, 12:37 pm

>274 BLBera: I had a horrible reaction to this second shingles shot, Beth. I was down for the count most of the weekend: fever, chills, aches, shivers. My arm is still sore and I had the shot Saturday morning! But I swam this morning and I'm hoping that using the arm that vigorously will help move the gunk along. Still worth it if I don't get shingles!!

>275 kidzdoc: I'm with you 100%, Darryl. This was brutal but worth it to protect me from shingles!

283EBT1002
Aug. 25, 2021, 12:40 pm

>276 benitastrnad: Yep, I'm keeping my eye out for a copy of Mad Enchantment, Benita. I got to see a fair few of Monet's works at the Art Institute of Chicago when I was in grad school in Illinois but I would also love to see the broader collection. It goes without saying that is capture of light is nothing short of genius.

>277 Berly: No idea, Kim. As they say, "talk with your health care provider." I know with C-19, they're saying having had it does not preclude getting vaccinated but I have no idea with shingles.

284EBT1002
Aug. 25, 2021, 12:42 pm

>280 Berly: Yes! I LOVE this weather!! It's sunny, no smoke, 70s during the day and upper 40s at night. Perfection.

>281 richardderus: Agree wholeheartedly. Including the "no guarantee it will be the same tomorrow." *smooch*
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