Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #84

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Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread #84

1aspirit
Jul. 1, 7:19pm

THIS THREAD is for LibraryThing Members, and especially for "beginners," to ask help and learn about combining and separating specific LibraryThing Works.

-- If a book is combined with other, very different books.

-- If a book won’t combine with others just like it.

-- If problems with any Work are overwhelming, or maybe you just don’t have time.

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WHEN YOU POST:

○ Please give Titles, Authors, hyperlinks, and other information that might help.

○ If you post multiple requests at once, please number each group. Examples:

“Please combine:
#1: The Story of the Life of You
http://www.librarything.com/work/AAAAAAAA
http://www.librarything.com/work/BBBBBBBB
#2: The Story of the Life of Everyone Else
http://www.librarything.com/work/XXXXXXXX
http://www.librarything.com/work/YYYYYYYY
http://www.librarything.com/work/ZZZZZZZZ

○ Ask about sets of Works or Series pages, ask for opinions, or ask for help with specific languages, subjects, etc.; but please be brief.

○ Please do not give Search pages, Author pages, or groups of “possibles” unless you have a specific question.

○ "Someone will be with you shortly." Most requests are handled by our fellow LibraryThing Members, not by staff.

○ If you add to a post, please use “ETA:” or “EDIT:” to show what’s new.

○ Please note when a request is “DONE.”

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NOTES:

• If two works have more than 200 records each, LibraryThing staff may need to do the combining. Please post these requests to: http://www.librarything.com/topic/95602 .

• For information and discussion, but not problems, please see the Combiner’s Group Information, FAQ & Discussion Thread: https://www.librarything.com/topic/57164 .

• For the related wiki page, please see: https://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Book_combining .

• Please note Tim’s "Guidelines for Proper Etiquette for Contacting Members about Book Records" at https://www.librarything.com/topic/30795#469616 ; if you contact another Member, please use Private Comment.

• When this thread reaches 200 posts, please do not post here but start a new Thread. Threads under 200 posts load faster and are easier to navigate. Please copy these notes as post #1 of the new thread.

Thank you for helping out!

2aspirit
Bearbeitet: Jul. 2, 11:32am

auto-posted duplicate

3al.vick
Jul. 2, 7:50am

This topic seems to also be named #83, even though it is a continuation of #83. Not that it really matters what it is named I guess...

4jasbro
Jul. 2, 10:56am

>1 aspirit: Thanks! I hadn't noticed we were approaching a tipping point.

>3 al.vick: From my experience, the new number on a continuation thread is easy to miss, and once it's done, only an LT admin can change it. Either that, or we just refer to it as "#83(b)."

5aspirit
Jul. 2, 11:32am

>3 al.vick: >4 jasbro: Yikes! I'm sorry about the confusion. This group doesn't have administrator, so we'll need to get LT staff to change the title. I'll message someone. Let's see....

6elahrairah
Jul. 3, 9:12am

here's a book where 2 works have been combined.

https://www.librarything.com/work/290420/summary/202412160

i want to separate Dragon Magic from the Spell Compendium, but I can't see how. Any advice or help would be appreciated.

7aspirit
Jul. 3, 9:49am

>6 elahrairah: Does it look good now? I recalculated the covers. The cover for Dragon Magic dropped off.

8jasbro
Jul. 3, 3:20pm

>5 aspirit: Not to worry! I'd kinda taken it on myself to watch & move to a continuation as we approached 200 posts, but just wasn't focused on it this time. And if you'll look back to https://www.librarything.com/topic/308513 (#81#80), https://www.librarything.com/topic/265866 (#77), and https://www.librarything.com/topic/276061 (#77(b)), you'll see that I haven't always gotten it right or troubled LT to fix it. I appreciate your help.

9elahrairah
Jul. 4, 5:52am

>7 aspirit: hi aspirit doesn't seem to have made any difference at my end. sorry!

11elahrairah
Jul. 4, 8:07am

oh i see. how do i get to the correct url, do i use the search box? thanks!

12aspirit
Jul. 4, 9:11am

>11 elahrairah: Yes, you could search in your catalog or the site. The link that comes up for Dragon Magic is to the correct work page.

13jasbro
Bearbeitet: Jul. 5, 3:58pm

14jasbro
Jul. 5, 7:55pm

15elahrairah
Jul. 6, 5:46am

>12 aspirit: thanks, appreciated!

here we have Lucretius' On The Nature of The Universe, where it looks like translations and original have all been merged together.

https://www.librarything.com/work/154820/workdetails/187998851

i think we need to take the originals out of this work, make the disambiguation clearer, and perhaps merge the originals into one work?

16MarthaJeanne
Bearbeitet: Jul. 6, 8:30am

https://www.librarything.com/author/ciba

needs dividing.

On further examination, this seems to all be related to the previous Swiss chemical company. Their 'CIBA review' had to do with textiles, but they also had medical products.

17bluepiano
Jul. 10, 6:07am

I'm sure there's a way to combine series but I don't know it.

If you go to https://www.librarything.com/work/4906467/book/202666702, click 'add/edit' for series, and enter 'manchester medieval studies' you'll get two results: same series, different editors. I've created a 3rd variation, 'Manchester Medieval Studies' which would allow for books written under all 3 (at least) editors. How to combine the three? Ta.

18MarthaJeanne
Bearbeitet: Jul. 10, 7:49am

There are a couple of problems here.

First, I deleted your new series because it was spelled wrong.

I added that book to one of the other series and took out the series author.

When I opened the Pearl Poet series I discovered that it was a publishers series and that one work in it is Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. Ah! That is not part of a regular LT series, because there are many editions that are not 'Manchester Medieval Studies'.

To combine the two series, https://www.librarything.com/nseries/123953/Manchester-Medieval-Studies and https://www.librarything.com/nseries/258195/Manchester-Medieval-Studies

the first would need to be made a publishers series. Is that what you want to do?

Actually, Genghis Khan needs to be in publishers series as well, as it is not original to the Manchester series either.

OK, Done and combined. https://www.librarything.com/nseries/258195/Manchester-Medieval-Studies

I have also added several more books to the publishers series. There are plenty more on LT if you do a search.

19prosfilaes
Jul. 19, 2:46am

Apparently someone tried to separate the different editions of https://www.librarything.com/nseries/3680/The-Art-of-Computer-Programming The Art of Computer Programming, volume 1. Unfortunately, not only the largest two editions in https://www.librarything.com/work/10496/editions both 3rd edition, which has its own work ( https://www.librarything.com/work/26435217 ), there's many different volumes of the series combined into that work. I tend to think all volume 1s should be combined together, but either way, what we have now is a mess.

20SimoneA
Jul. 19, 3:16am

>19 prosfilaes: I think I got all the stray editions of other volumes sorted. Unfortunately, I don't know the method to combine editions with over 200 copies. If no one here can help with that, you might consider asking in the dedicated thread here https://www.librarything.com/topic/313648#n7541651.

21MsRoux
Jul. 21, 5:58am

No One Could Have Guessed the Weather An Englishwoman in New York No One Could Have Gwesses The Weather
The last title above is obviously a typo, but I forget how to fix it.

22Nicole_VanK
Bearbeitet: Jul. 21, 8:27am

>21 MsRoux: That's probably indeed a typo, so I'm combining them. I have no idea, however, if "An Englishwoman in New York" isn't an alternative title for "No one could have guessed the weather".

ETA: Even the info I could find through WorldCat isn't conclusive - in my eyes. Separating them out would be easy though, and I'll gladly help out if you are certain.

23jasbro
Bearbeitet: Jul. 21, 11:51am

>22 Nicole_VanK: Looking at the respective WordCat, Bookfinder, and Amazon records for the various ISBNs, I expect they're pretty clearly one and the same. An Englishwoman looks to be the original 2013 UK title, with No One being the 2014 US reprint.

24bluepiano
Jul. 21, 4:25pm

Thanks for help with publisher's series above. As I still haven't copped to how to do that, same publisher different series, https://www.librarything.com/work/14512818/book/203283959: Searching for 'studies in popular culture' reveals another pile-up: first 3 results are (MUP) Studies in Popular Culture, and I've noticed that the last two results belong to the one (but not one I mentioned) series. Thanks.

25Nicole_VanK
Jul. 22, 1:42am

>23 jasbro: Better sleuthing than I did. Thank you.

26MsRoux
Bearbeitet: Jul. 25, 7:30pm

>22Nicole_VanK >23Jasbro: Thank you. An Englishwoman in New York is the same book. It was first published in England with this title. The title was changed to No One .... when it was published in the US.

27Avron
Jul. 27, 12:39am

https://www.librarything.com/nseries/158859/The-Guardian-%5BWalker%5D

I presume that the Italian versions should just be combined with the others, but don't know for sure.

28SimoneA
Bearbeitet: Jul. 27, 11:20am

>27 Avron: I think so, the titles are very similar. Do you want to do the combining yourself? Otherwise, I'd be happy to help.

29jasbro
Jul. 27, 10:22am

30Avron
Aug. 1, 1:10am

I combined the works mentioned in 27

Someone want to do some uncombining? https://www.librarything.com/work/15467261 is an amalgam of nearly a dozen works. Some of which have other works to combine into.

31MarthaJeanne
Bearbeitet: Aug. 1, 1:40am

>30 Avron: That should probably be done by someone who knows the Mass effect series. There seem to be various numbering systems running.

It is also what happens when works are entered

Series name: work title

The computer only considers things up to the colon when combining.

32SimoneA
Aug. 1, 3:23am

>30 Avron: I've tried my best and think it looks ok now.

33SaintSunniva
Aug. 10, 1:49pm

wichitafriendsschool left a review for another book on
https://www.librarything.com/work/4348691/reviews
Is it possible to have it removed, or moved to where it should be?

34SandraArdnas
Aug. 10, 1:57pm

>33 SaintSunniva: Is this a combination issue? Are there some copies that should be separated? To me, it looks like all editions are Esop's fable, in which case only the member can remove the review. If there's another work among editions, separating it would move the accompanying review too

35SaintSunniva
Aug. 12, 11:42am

>34 SandraArdnas: Hmmm. Could it be a case of an isbn? I looked at the list of de la Fontaine books of The North Wind and the Sun, all illustrated by Brian Wildsmith
https://www.librarything.com/combine.php?author=fontainejeandela,
and noticed one with a different author, David Dinwoodie Irving who has one book on LT, African Cookboy https://www.librarything.com/work/12342922
and its description is exactly that of the misplaced review.

Does this help?

36SandraArdnas
Aug. 12, 11:58am

>35 SaintSunniva: Well, the edition by Irving is the one illustrated by Wildsmith and it's the fable, from Oxford Classic Fable series. So I'm not sure it should be separated. https://books.google.hr/books/about/The_North_Wind_and_the_Sun.html?id=Sj_2AAAAC.... I'll leave it to someone familiar with the work

37MarthaJeanne
Aug. 12, 12:34pm

Compare https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0192727079

I tried to leave a correction, but it didn't take.

The review can be red flagged because it is copied from Amazon.

39AnnieMod
Aug. 25, 1:30pm

>38 Katya0133: Done.

You can do these via the workbench if you want to try next time.

40elahrairah
Aug. 28, 11:54am

hi everyone, i think ive made a mistake that i can't undo!

i tried to combine the author named ernsmorrisl (Morris L Erns) into ernstmorrisl (Morris L Ernst) because the first is an error (the only credit is a foreword credit for Ulysses, of which the latter is also credited and famously defended). However by combining I have apparently set the former as the main credit and not the latter. I am unclear how to fix this or what I should have done - i have combined authors this way before and there hasn't been a problem.

https://www.librarything.com/author/ernsmorrisl

thanks for your help!

41SandraArdnas
Aug. 28, 1:23pm

>40 elahrairah: The web address of author page is not important. In fact, Tim mentioned plans to change them to numerical, instead of based on name.

However, there's CK info stranded, which you can fix by opening the 'combination issues' link with the yellow triangle and ! sign. It needs to be copied t the new page and deleted from the old one.

42elahrairah
Aug. 29, 6:01am

ok cool, thanks!

43HeathMochaFrost
Sept. 1, 9:41am

I noticed yesterday that certain views of my catalog listed the book Orchid & the Wasp with the title Gathering Evidence. Both books were written by Caoilinn Hughes, but the Orchid book is a novel, and it looks like the Evidence book is a poetry collection. When I looked at the Editions info for my book, I saw that several had the Orchid title, and several the Evidence title. Having just split apart two books by different authors a few days before with no problem, I thought I'd just split these apart too. Oops!

I *did* manage to get the Gathering Evidence copies together, I'm pretty sure, but now there are two Orchid titles on the author page. The reason I didn't combine them is because for this copy (which has fewer members)
https://www.librarything.com/work/14723559
the description at the top of the page is obviously for the poetry collection Gathering Evidence, and I thought if I combined them I might somehow mess something up even more. So, I came here to ask the combining experts for help. Please help! :-)

(Possibly the worst part of this, for me personally, is that I've now skimmed the reviews for this unread book, an ARC I got for free at a local book event, and it's very possible I wouldn't even enjoy it, so the trouble it gave me last evening was maybe a big waste of time. Ugh.)

44r.orrison
Sept. 1, 10:03am

>43 HeathMochaFrost:
I've combined the various Orchid and the Wasp works, and it looks like the incorrect description has vanished.

45HeathMochaFrost
Sept. 1, 11:18am

>44 r.orrison: Excellent, thanks so much! :-)

I suppose it's not a surprise that Gathering Evidence, which has less than 10 copies, doesn't have the description, either, but at least it has the right book cover now. When I checked last night, it was just an empty box with the title stuck in there, so this is definitely an improvement! Thanks again.

46MarthaJeanne
Sept. 1, 12:07pm

It can take time for covers to move around after a separation.

47SandraArdnas
Sept. 1, 1:16pm

>46 MarthaJeanne: In my experience, hitting 'recalculate covers' after separating does it immediately

48karenb
Sept. 11, 3:19pm

The author Bernard George (/author/georgebernard) should be split, as some of the works are clearly George Bernard Shaw in translation. Whether the other works are by one person or more, I don't know.

There are other authors with very similar names, such as Georges Bernard. A good project for someone who wants to seperate a lot of threads.

49SandraArdnas
Sept. 11, 6:41pm

>48 karenb: If/when the translations are combined with the original work, the split will be left with no books. IMO, combining should be done first and then only if there are works left do the splitting

50karenb
Bearbeitet: Sept. 12, 11:33am

>49 SandraArdnas: With the Shaw books, certainly. It still seems to me that there are multiple authors involved, if someone with more languages than I have wants to investigate.

51Katya0133
Sept. 13, 8:10pm

Please combine

https://www.librarything.com/work/1495489
https://www.librarything.com/work/8885651

(Normally, I could do this type of combination myself, but I'm having trouble getting the authors to combine, due to the aliasing.)

52MarthaJeanne
Sept. 13, 8:24pm

Done. I used the workbench rather than fiddle with the authors.

54MarthaJeanne
Bearbeitet: Okt. 2, 10:46am

>53 Cecrow: Really? The title is the same, but one is by John Edward Williams, The other by John Buchan with different birth and death dates. I don't think so.

One claims to be a biography, the other historical fiction.

I've fixed the CK so it refers to the Buchan biography.

55Cecrow
Okt. 3, 8:25am

>54 MarthaJeanne:, is that the problem? Good grief, glad you caught that, I obviously didn't.

56bluepiano
Okt. 11, 3:55am

Possibly someone would enjoy dealing with this curiosity. I wouldn't.

https://www.librarything.com/search.php?search=first+last&searchtype=authorn...

57bluepiano
Bearbeitet: Okt. 11, 4:02am

And since posting that I've noticed that this, https://www.librarything.com/work/11461370, has wrongly been put into a publisher's series of photgraphy books. (I hope not by me, as I'd just added Afrique/Africa to the Kharaketer series.) I'm sure there's an obvious way to take it out of the series but nonetheless I don't see one. Cheers.

58Nicole_VanK
Okt. 11, 4:46am

>57 bluepiano: The stuff there is unidentifiable. All we know it's several things called Africa - could be a book, could be a movie, could be a sound recording, could be a map

59MarthaJeanne
Bearbeitet: Okt. 11, 5:36am

I've added a disambiguation notice to try to prevent it being combined into other works.

Removed from series. Even if one copy belongs there, the work doesn't. The series you mention is not indexed on LT or in Google. Found it! https://www.librarything.com/nseries/278554/Kharaktêr. Afrique/Africa by Anne Sol is still there. I'd have called this a regular series.

60bluepiano
Okt. 11, 7:21am

>59 MarthaJeanne: Tha nk you. Should have occurred to me it was a wrongly-combined work--which of course explains how it showed up when I added Afrique/Africa to Kharaketer series.

Distinction between reg. & pub. series always seemed a bit vague to me; I'm sure that if there are 8 fantasy books about the quests & loves of Jacinta the Fairy Queen they;re the former and that books not published elsewhere assigned by the publisher to one of their series (Art & its Global Histories, Design and Material Culture e.g. from a unversity press) are the latter--? is it one of those terms that various members interpret in different ways, or is there a clear-cut official definition somewhere on the site?

61MarthaJeanne
Bearbeitet: Okt. 11, 8:12am

For a work to be in a series, all copies of the work need to be in the series.

Publishers often create their own series by republishing books that have appeared elsewhere.

Tom Sawyer is part of the (regular) series Tom Sawyer and every copy belongs there.
It is also listed in 58 publishers series. Publishers series are made up of books that have also been published elsewhere. Barnes and Noble Classics https://www.librarything.com/nseries/256052/Barnes-and-Noble-Classics is a typical example of a publishers series.

These photography books are ONLY published in this series. They haven't been pulled from other places to create a series.

There are some series that are mixed. A publisher decides to publish 10 new books on some topic, and also includes a few older books that are still useful, but are no longer in print. If a series is created it should only include the new titles. A publishers series can contain all of them.

The info on that used to be on the series pages.

62jasbro
Okt. 11, 12:27pm

>56 bluepiano: We're down to three, but those may be insoluble.

>58 Nicole_VanK: Could it be "The Rain Down in ... "? (I think maybe I just dated myself.)

63bluepiano
Okt. 11, 1:04pm

>62 jasbro: Good lord I'm honestly impressed by that, truncated first name truncated word for a sibling.

Yours in awe,

username

64bluepiano
Okt. 11, 1:13pm

>61 MarthaJeanne: Thanks. It certainly should be on series pages still.(Is it another helpful feature that was busted in site update I wonder?) Come to think of it, I don't suppose an additional notice on series pages would convince the And Other Stories member once & for all that a publisher is not any kind of series?

65Nicole_VanK
Okt. 12, 7:24am

>62 jasbro: :) I did in fact separate one work by Toto out

66jasbro
Bearbeitet: Okt. 12, 12:47pm

>63 bluepiano: Ha! You're very kind ... and I got a bit lucky.

FWIW, I only looked at "first last." For works having "first last" as the author, I first looked at cover images, then LT searches by title, and last to various and miscellaneous title or author searches using browser search engines. For each work where a cover or searches gave clues as to the true author, I then changed the primary author (and main or secondary authors whom I could identify), recalculated the author(s) name(s) from both members' books at the "Add other authors" level and the work's title/author, and finally recalculated author name on the "first last" author page. The remaining three at https://www.librarything.com/author/lastfirst are beyond me.

As for the rest of your reply, you may be on to something there. Or not.

😎

67Helenliz
Okt. 14, 5:38am

I think this might need some attention.
https://www.librarything.com/work/110272/summary/106853055

the title I have is The village that died for England : the strange story of Tyneham, it is not the same topic or content as A Journey Through Ruins: The Last Days Of London

No idea what needs to happen, but they seem to be 2 different books.

68Nicole_VanK
Bearbeitet: Okt. 14, 8:51am

>67 Helenliz: Someone had combined pretty much all books by that author. I unraveled the mess the best I could. It may take a little while for the system to catch up on the changes.

P.s.: "The village that died for England" is now here https://www.librarything.com/work/27192174

69SaintSunniva
Okt. 15, 11:24pm

I am afraid I made a mess...
Tina Nunnally got combined into Hans Christian Andersen's author page https://www.librarything.com/author/andersenhanschristia

What I thought I was doing was adding Tina Nunnally to Tiina Nunnally.

71bluepiano
Okt. 16, 12:14pm

>66 jasbro: I suppose I was unconsciously influenced by a local branch of Brother Jasper's Rosaries 'n' Dry Goods having had its grand opening recently.

72ballycumber
Okt. 18, 11:35am

I added The Hound of the Baskervilles by Sir Author Conan Doyle (https://www.librarything.com/work/3206242/summary/207341395) to my library, and somehow the site seems to think it's The Hobbit by J.R.R. Tolkien. I'd love it if someone could help separate it out. Looking at the editions page was just overwhelming for me to try to figure out what to do without messing anything up.

73MarthaJeanne
Bearbeitet: Okt. 18, 12:15pm

>72 ballycumber: I found it!

I "can't imagine" why you would find that editions page overwhelming.

Now combined into https://www.librarything.com/work/12403

74Nicole_VanK
Okt. 18, 12:14pm

Fixed. There were a few copies mixed in somehow.

https://www.librarything.com/work/3206242 is indeed The Hobbit
https://www.librarything.com/work/12403 is The hound of the Baskervilles

75SandraArdnas
Okt. 18, 12:15pm

>72 ballycumber: Is it OK now? I separated the one J found and recombined into proper work, but it claimed to have zero copies

76MarthaJeanne
Bearbeitet: Okt. 18, 12:19pm

The one I found had two copies including >72 ballycumber:'s.

Link from their profile gives proper work.

BTW, if anyone has nothing better to do, there are several video recordings in the Hobbit work. Also a few abridged copies. I took out a copy of Fellowship.

77SandraArdnas
Okt. 18, 12:21pm

Ah. several of us were working on it at the same time, that's why.

The easiest way to find non-belonging editions in a sea of editions like here is using browser search I think

78Nicole_VanK
Okt. 18, 12:27pm

>77 SandraArdnas: That's how I did it.

79ballycumber
Okt. 18, 12:27pm