SandDune’s Retirement Reads - Part 4

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SandDune’s Retirement Reads - Part 4

1SandDune
Bearbeitet: Jul. 27, 2021, 2:11 pm

Welcome to my fourth thread of 2021, and to my tenth year doing the 75 Book Challenge. I'm a 60 year old accountant and, after spending most of my career in the City of London, I was until very recently the Finance Manager of a local charity which provides support to children and adults with learning disabilities. But 2021 will be a year of change as I retired on 22nd January, and my husband (aka Mr SandDune) started working part-time from January onwards. We live about thirty miles north of London although retirement may take us elsewhere in the U.K. Our 21 year old son (aka J) is now at the University of Lancaster in the North of England studying History. There's also our 9 year old Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Daisy, who tends to feature prominently in my threads.

I'm originally from Wales rather than England, so I do have an interest in all things Welsh (although I can't speak the language - at least only a few words) and I tend to get huffy if people call me English rather than Welsh! I read mainly literary fiction, classics, science-fiction and fantasy, but I have been trying (and enjoying) some crime fiction. As far as non-fiction goes I’m interested in a number of topics in particular books about the environment and nature.

In 2020 I struggled with my reading (for the obvious reasons) and read a lot fewer books than normal, and more of those were a fairly easy read.

All my family are avid readers. J has inherited a love of reading science-fiction and fantasy from me and a love of reading history from Mr SandDune so our books are increasingly shared. I read hardbacks, paperbacks, on kindle and listen to audio books particularly when driving or walking the dog. Apart from reading I love travelling, eating out, and going to the theatre, most of which have been curtailed in 2020 again for the obvious reasons. I'm getting more and more concerned about environmental issues and I have been quite involved in campaigning on climate change.

During 2020 I got a lot of pleasure from looking at the birds in my garden, so I thought for 2021 I’d start my threads with pictures of my favourites.

The bird I have chosen for this month is the puffin as on our recent holiday to Scotland we saw quite a few of these charismatic birds. Over the years I’ve been to quite a few places where puffins are found, but only rarely at the right time of year, so seeing them close-up this holiday was a treat.

Puffin

From Thomas Bewick’s A History of British Birds:



And in real life:

2SandDune
Bearbeitet: Jul. 27, 2021, 2:11 pm

Five star books from past years:

2020:
H is for Hawk Helen MacDonald
The Curse of Chalion Lois McMaster Bujold

2019:
The Salt Path Raynor Winn
Wilding Isabella Tree
Mothering Sunday Graham Swift

2018:
City of Bohane Kevin Barry
Educated: A Memoir Tara Westover
Frederica Georgette Heyer

2017:
1984 George Orwell
Pride and Prejudice Jane Austen
Persuasion Jane Austen
The Outrun Amy Liptrot
Lincoln in the Bardo George Saunders
Just William Richmal Crompton

2016:
The Shepherd’s Life James Rebanks
Gilead Marilynne Robinson

2015:
The Spire William Golding
Girl in the Dark: A Memoir Anna Lyndsey
The Remains of the Day Kazuo Ishiguro

2014:
The Lowland Jhumpa Lahiri
The Wall Marlen Haushofer
Heart of Darkness Joseph Conrad
Selected Stories Katherine Mansfield
Framley Parsonage Anthony Trollope

2013:
The Garden of Evening Mists Tan Twan Eng
Tooth and Claw Jo Walton
Barchester Towers Anthony Trollope
Northanger Abbey Jane Austen
The Ocean at the End of the Lane Neil Gaiman
Suite Francaise Irene Nemirovsky
Salvage the Bones Jesmyn Ward

2012:
Among Others Jo Walton
The Arrival Shaun Tan
The Tale of Peter Rabbit Beatrix Potter
The Uncommon Reader Alan Bennett
Railsea China Mieville

3SandDune
Bearbeitet: Jul. 27, 2021, 2:12 pm

Plans for 2021:

I belong to a RL (well, via Zoom these days) book club and we meet monthly (except January & August).

February: The Windsor Knot Sophia Bennett
March: The Accidental Ali Smith
April Night Waking Sarah Moss
May Hamnet Maggie O’Farrell

June Motherwell: A Girlhood Deborah Orr
July Wilding: The Return of Nature to a British Farm Isabella Tree
September
October
November

We will also be reading the Costa novel shortlist over the first couple of months of the year:

Piranesi Susanna Clarke
Peace Talks Tim Finch
The Less Dead Denise Mina
The Mermaid of Black Conch Monique Roffey

4SandDune
Bearbeitet: Okt. 1, 2021, 4:10 pm

Books read in 2021:

1. Piranesi Susanna Clarke *****
2. Back to Nature: How to Love Life —and Save It Chris Packham & Megan McCubbin ****
3. The Magician’s Nephew C.S. Lewis *****
4. Lolly Willowes Sylvia Townsend Warner ***1/2
5. Lowborn: Growing Up, Getting Away and Returning to Britain’s Poorest Towns Kerry Hudson ***
6. Windsor Knot S.J. Bennett **
7. The Inheritors William Golding ****
8. The Goblin Emperor Katherine Addison ****
9. Peace Talks Tim Finch ***1/2
10. The Accidental Ali Smith ***
11. The Pride of Chanur C.J. Cherryh ****
12. Paladin of Souls Lois McMaster Bujold ****
13. The Less Dead Denise Mina **1/2
14. Night Waking Sarah Moss ****1/2
15. The Mermaid of Black Conch Monique Roffey ****1/2
16. Hamnet Maggie O’Farrell *****
17. The Grey King Susan Cooper ***1/2
18. Tribes David Lammy ***1/2
19. Silver on the Tree Susan Cooper ***
20. The Heavens Sandra Newman ***1/2
21. Penric’s Demon Lois McMaster Bujold****
22. The Town House Norah Lofts ***
23. Necessity’s Child Sharon Lee Steve Miller****
24. Motherwell Deborah Orr ****
25. Dragon in Exile Sharon Lee Steve Miller****
26. Head On John Scalzi ***1/2
27. Penric and the Shaman Lois McMaster Bujold ***1/2
28. Penric’s Fox Lois McMaster Bujold ***1/2
29. I Belong Here: A Journey Along the Backbone of Britain Anita Sethi**1/2
30. All Systems Red Martha Wells****
31. Wilding: the Return of Nature to a British Farm Isabella Tree *****
32. Masquerade in Lodi Lois McMaster Bujold ***1/2
33. Artificial Condition Martha Wells ***1/2
34. The Dictionary of Lost Words Pip Williams
35. A Wizards Guide to Defensive Baking T. Kingfisher
36. Old Baggage Lissa Evans
37. V for Victory Lissa Evans
38. Barchester Towers Anthony Trollope *****
39. The Unknown Ajax Georgette Heyer ***1/2
40. A Theatre for Dreamers Polly Samson ***
41. Notes From the Burning Age Claire North ***1/2
42. Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City K.J. Parker ***1/2
43. Small Pleasures Clare Chambers ****
43. The House by the Lake Thomas Harding ***
44. The Witness for the Dead Katherine Addison ***1/2
45. All the Lonely People Mike Gayle ****

5SandDune
Bearbeitet: Jul. 27, 2021, 3:26 pm

As promised here are some photos of our Scottish holiday. We started off with a week in Fife. I have been to St Andrew’s before (think golf) but hadn’t visited any other parts of Fife before, and was pleasantly surprised to see how pretty it was. Not dissimilar to parts of Cornwall (but without the crowds) with pretty fishing villages and beaches and a lovely coastal path. We stayed in Crail …

Here is Crail harbour:



And here is the view from the front door of our house (some really old houses there):



Here is St. Monans, a little further down the coast:



And Jacob and Daisy heading off into the waves at Elie beach, looking out over the Firth of Forth:


6Caroline_McElwee
Jul. 27, 2021, 3:07 pm

>5 SandDune: Looks beautiful Rhian.

7SandDune
Bearbeitet: Jul. 27, 2021, 3:35 pm

Jacob’s girlfriend Caroline joined us in the middle of the first week and we travelled over to Mull for our second week. We had a lovely house where we had red deer at the bottom of the garden and seals in the sea within walking distance, and apparently otters too, although we did not see those.

The main town of Mull is Tobermory (for ever immortalised as Balamory for young people of Jacob’s and Caroline’s age):



We had a boat trip to Staffa, where we saw Fingal’s Cave, as well as lots of puffins:





And on Mull we found pretty much the perfect picnic spot, where a waterfall had carved out a deep enough pool for swimming:



Daisy liked it too:

8katiekrug
Jul. 27, 2021, 3:31 pm

Great photos! Thanks for sharing, Rhian.

9SandDune
Bearbeitet: Jul. 27, 2021, 3:39 pm

Mr SandDune, Jacob and Caroline climbed Mull’s highest Munro, at 966m (the pointy one in the background). Not huge in mountain terms but the climb does start at sea level.

Mr SandDune was thinking that the 21 year olds would outpace him quite considerably, but all that going to the gym has been paying off, and he wasn’t the one that was suffering:





I stayed at the bottom with Daisy.

10SandDune
Jul. 27, 2021, 3:50 pm

We also visited Iona with its abbey (the Celtic cross in the foreground is about 1200 years old):



And its white sand beaches:



And also the island of Ulva, which had a population of over 600 at the start of the nineteenth century but which now has just a handful:



But which does have a very nice cafe indeed:



And a sophisticated system for summoning ferry:



11quondame
Jul. 27, 2021, 4:27 pm

Happy new thread!

Great pictures!

12lauralkeet
Jul. 27, 2021, 4:39 pm

Love the holiday snaps, Rhian. Thank you so much for posting them.

13elkiedee
Jul. 27, 2021, 5:24 pm

I'd never realised that the womble Tobermory is named after a place in Scotland.

14BLBera
Jul. 27, 2021, 5:26 pm

Thanks for sharing your holiday photos, Rhian. It looks wonderful.

And, happy new thread.

15FAMeulstee
Jul. 27, 2021, 5:28 pm

Happpy new thread, Rhian!
Lovely pictures, and it looks like you had nice weather.

16PaulCranswick
Jul. 27, 2021, 8:40 pm

Happy new thread, Rhian.

Enjoyed your pictures immensely.

17SandyAMcPherson
Jul. 27, 2021, 11:51 pm

I chime in with great admiration of your holiday photos. I loved seeing where you visited. And truly, not a drop of rain?

18SandDune
Jul. 28, 2021, 3:58 am

>6 Caroline_McElwee: >8 katiekrug: >11 quondame: >12 lauralkeet: >13 elkiedee: >14 BLBera: >15 FAMeulstee: >16 PaulCranswick: >17 SandyAMcPherson:

Welcome everyone!

>13 elkiedee: Yes Tobermory is a real place, although not a very big one (about 1000 people altogether). It even has a bookshop (combined with a fishing tackle shop - the first time I’ve run across that particular combination) which, although pretty small, actually had a good selection of books.

>17 SandyAMcPherson: No rain at all! I’ve never been to Scotland and there be no rain! Admittedly Fife is on the East Coast and is dryer: Caroline had holidayed in the area several times (her parents are Scottish) and she had had sunny holidays there before, but it’s invariably rained heavily at least some of the time when we go to Scotland. But Mull was consistently warm (warm enough to go swimming) and sunny as well. Apparently it’s gone back down to normal this week with top temperatures of 13°C and some rain. We discovered that Caroline is addicted to getting in any available water whether she has her swimming things or not, which was quite amusing.

19drneutron
Jul. 28, 2021, 9:17 am

Happy new one! The pics are great!

20johnsimpson
Jul. 28, 2021, 4:51 pm

Happy New Thread Rhian my dear.

21MickyFine
Jul. 29, 2021, 10:14 am

Gorgeous photos, Rhian. Looks like a fabulous trip.

22SandDune
Jul. 29, 2021, 2:37 pm

23SandDune
Jul. 30, 2021, 2:48 pm

We’ve been having a busy time since we got back from holiday. Tuesday was generally sorting out the holiday stuff and washing. Wednesday was moving items back into the conservatory and study (we had some decorating done while we were away and so things had had to be moved out, including lots of books). Yesterday was ironing and putting clothes away, and then picking an oven and hob for our kitchen refurbishment, which is happening in September. And today was cleaning the house, which had not happened before we went away because of moving all the things out of the conservatory and study. Anyway it’s now all sorted so I’m hoping for a more relaxing weekend!

24SandDune
Bearbeitet: Jul. 30, 2021, 3:29 pm

A short run-down of books read on holiday:

34. The Dictionary of Lost Words Pip Williams ****1/2



A female contributor to the Oxford English Dictionary starts to think about what words are not being included.

35. A Wizards Guide to Defensive Baking T. Kingfisher ****



A fantasy tale in which baked goods prove to be surprisingly dangerous.

36. Old Baggage Lissa Evans ***1/2



In 1928 middle-aged ex-suffragette Mattie misses the excitement of her earlier years and looks for new meaning in life.

37. V for Victory Lissa Evans ***1/2



A sequel to Old Baggage set during World War II.

38. The Mortal Word Genevieve Cogman ***



Fifth book in the Invisible Library series.

25msf59
Jul. 30, 2021, 5:08 pm

Happy New Thread, Rhian. Have a lovely weekend. Love the holiday photos.

26richardderus
Jul. 30, 2021, 6:28 pm

Oohhh, lovely, lovely Scotland, Rhian. I'm so surprised that J allowed himself to be photographed...I suppose immortalizing Caroline's first family vacation is worth it.

We certainly concur on four of six reads above...I like Cogman more than you, and haven't read V for Victory yet.

Lovely weekend's reads ahead.

27SandDune
Jul. 31, 2021, 3:23 am

>26 richardderus: He’s not got a complete aversion to having his picture taken, but it’s not something he looks for either. He’s usually far more amenable to having it done if he’s on a mountain, as I think he thinks that’s worth recording.

Poor Caroline! She’s quite outdoorsy and has got a Gold Duke of Edinburgh award and helped run bushcraft camps for children so Mr SandDune thought she’d be fine with Ben More. I think you’d have to pay her a lot of money to get her to walk up there again.

My kindle told me that V for Victory was the next book to read after Old Baggage so I was annoyed to find (in the very tiny Tobermory book shop) that I should have read Crooked Heart first. I did think that there was a lot of complicated back history in V for Victory ….

I do like The Invisible Library series but this was didn’t grab me as much as previous ones. I was usually reading it while pretty tired which probably won’t have helped.

28magicians_nephew
Jul. 31, 2021, 9:50 am

Thanks for posting the holiday snaps Rhian. I've never been to Scotland - one of these days.

Loved your snap from British Birds -- when Sherlock Holmes comes back from the dead in The Adventure of the Empty House He disguises himself as an old bookseller and attempts to sell a copy of British Birds to Watson.

Happy to see you reading The Magicians Nephew though my favorite of all the Narnian tales will always be The Silver Chair Good old Puddleglum!

29SandDune
Jul. 31, 2021, 9:52 am

>28 magicians_nephew: The Silver Chair isn’t my favourite, although re-reading them with my son I suspect that that might be because it was the last one I read and I was getting slightly older by that time and moving on to other things.

30richardderus
Jul. 31, 2021, 11:32 am

>27 SandDune: Oops...I should've read my post over before posting...I meant to include a definite article before "Cogman" because I recalled that we share a taste for the series. I gave that outing almost five stars because the stakes of revealing the real murderer's identity kept me flicking pages for more hours in a row than was healthy.

I'm glad you said that about Crooked Heart because that lurks on my Kindle, as V for Victory does not. *whew*

Happy that everyone survived that hike....

31elkiedee
Jul. 31, 2021, 12:04 pm

>27 SandDune: I think the confusion with the Lissa Evans books comes because the chronological and writing/publication order of the stories isn't the same. Crooked Heart was the first book to be written and published, then Old Baggage goes back in time. They are linked but in a way V for Victory is a sequel to both, bringing back characters. Saying that, by the time I'd got to the third book I'd forgotten a lot of Crooked Heart.

In such cases I would say read in publication order because there can't really be spoilers in a novel for a "prequel" that wasn't yet written when it was published. So Crooked Heart, then Old Baggage, then V for Victory.

But reading out of sequence isn't the end of the world, there's still lots to enjoy in any case.

32BLBera
Jul. 31, 2021, 4:07 pm

Lissa Evans is becoming a favorite of mine, Rhian. I read Crooked Heart a while ago, but I don't think I missed anything in Old Baggage. I'm hoping to get to V for Victory soon.

The Invisible Library series sounds interesting...

I've been doing some painting, so I understand what you mean about tidying. I'm almost done, and it will be so nice to have everything in its place again.

33SandyAMcPherson
Aug. 1, 2021, 10:30 pm

>18 SandDune: My one visit to Scotland was in May and it was very rainy. Probably we picked the rainiest time in spring, huh?

34SandDune
Aug. 2, 2021, 4:25 am

>30 richardderus: That makes sense Richard. I did enjoy The Mortal Word, just not quite as much as the previous ones.

Both Mr SandDune and Jacob are pretty keen on long walks up hills and mountains. In fact, they’re going up to the Yorkshire dales in a couple of weeks time to do the same thing again. But poor Caroline …. I think she was glad she did it, but really didn’t want to do anything similar in a hurry.

>31 elkiedee: That makes sense. For some reason Old Baggage was the one I’d heard of (and it is the first chronologically) so I just assumed it was the one to read first. Unfortunately I do now have spoilers for Crooked Heart but I will still read it.

>32 BLBera: This week the job is to tidy up the garage. We are having the kitchen redone in September, and they need to store stuff, but despite the fact that we have a double garage and we never actually put the car in it, it is still full. Mainly junk. I saw our neighbours garage yesterday and it was so tidy and clean that I now have garage envy and are feeling motivated. Mr SandDune says that as our neighbour practically lives in his garage doing stuff, whereas we only go in our to get the bird seed or similar items, he has more incentive to have a tidy garage. But still …

35SandDune
Aug. 2, 2021, 4:42 am

>33 SandyAMcPherson: I think any time in Scotland can be very rainy, to be honest. We were just lucky. Last time we went to Scotland it was in 2015 and would have been a similar time of year. While we were lucky that it rarely rained when we were trying to do things outside, there was quite a lot of rain at different points of the holiday.

This is the Bealach na Bà, a very narrow winding road that leads through the Applecross peninsula, and one of the highest roads in Scotland. Apparently there is a lovely view from the top but we have been over it twice and each time it has looked like this (taken in 2015):

36SandDune
Aug. 2, 2021, 4:55 am

We have had a nice quite weekend with me focusing on finishing my crochet blanket so it will be ready for Jacob to take back to Uni. (7 day sampler Afghan they called it! Hah! I started it at the beginning of March). And on Saturday we went to a local farmers market that I have been meaning to visit for a while. It was only small, but it had some nice stuff).

When we came back Daisy disgraced herself. She’s usually good at not wandering off if the garden gate is open. She knows she’s not supposed to go outside the front garden. But while we were unloading the car she saw a cat and bolted across the road and would not come back. She managed to get herself wedged between the fence and a hedge of the house opposite and got stuck and would not come out. The cat was fine, by the way, but I don’t know why Daisy is so obsessed with cats. She’s had enough up-close encounters with cats that you think would have put her off for life. (Our own, as well as the cat belonging to neighbours that always managed to keep Daisy pinned up in a corner while the cat just sat and washed her paws). But no.

37PawsforThought
Aug. 2, 2021, 10:51 am

I was in Scotland this time of year in 2018, when all of Europe was going through a months-long drought so during my week in Edinburgh we only had two (I think) days with rain. The first three days it was sunny and warm - like being on the continent.

38quondame
Aug. 2, 2021, 7:10 pm

>34 SandDune: Some of us need garages full of ripening accumulations to ground us to reality. Trying to clean out a garage for the sake of a clean garage seems circular. If you need a place to put a car or to do wood or metal craft, that's a reason. Otherwise more camping gear than 4 families need, comic, pattern, and doll collections, holiday decorations, those are the proper content of a garage.

39richardderus
Aug. 2, 2021, 7:36 pm

>35 SandDune: Oh my, yes indeed, quite a lovely view of...is that Nessie? all I'm seeing is a dark silhouette...

40SandDune
Aug. 3, 2021, 3:28 am

>37 PawsforThought: Last time we were in Scotland we went to Edinburgh - I really wanted more time to look around.

>38 quondame: That’s what next door’s garage is like. There’s a lot of stuff but it’s all beautifully organised. Ours was just full of random piles of junk and broken things which had accumulated firstly because Mr SandDune was so busy last year and then the local recycling centre was closed over the lockdown periods. And we do need extra garage space as the new kitchen cabinets need to be stored in there when they arrive.

>39 richardderus: It’s a Jacob in a cloud. But it was probably wet enough that day for a Nessie!

41SandyAMcPherson
Aug. 7, 2021, 12:59 am

>35 SandDune: Yeah! That was us our first time going over the Grampians (on the highway) (it was April).
We tried again later (first week of May) and had clear blue skies but the wind was lazy (blew right through my coat instead of going around).

42LovingLit
Aug. 7, 2021, 6:17 am

Lovely holiday snaps and books read!

Old Baggage looks enticing....I am looking into reading books about the Blitz lately ...have just got to that part in Life After Life, which itself was begun due to its being tagged "Blitz".

43karenmarie
Aug. 8, 2021, 9:16 am

Belated happy new thread, Rhian!

>1 SandDune: Puffins are just so pleasing to look at and always bring a smile to my face.

>5 SandDune: and >7 SandDune: and etc. Thank you for sharing.

>34 SandDune: We manage to keep out vehicles in the garage, but there’s stuff wedged in all around, which needs to get cleared out sooner than later. I’m envious of the kitchen redo, by the way.

44richardderus
Aug. 8, 2021, 12:10 pm

>40 SandDune: Ooohhh, yes...I see. I was fooled by the glowing red...eyespots...I suppose they're safety-shine laces for his sneaks.

Have a good week-ahead's reads.

45PaulCranswick
Aug. 20, 2021, 11:56 pm

Haven't see you around for more than two weeks. Hope all is well, Rhian.

46SandDune
Aug. 21, 2021, 11:36 am

>41 SandyAMcPherson: We were so lucky with the weather in Scotland. Since we got back the weather has been fairly disappointing.

>42 LovingLit: Life after Life - that’s one I must get around to.

>43 karenmarie: As regards the kitchen refit - we still haven’t decided whether or not we will move when Mr SandDune retires. We may and then we may not. But the kitchen is getting to the stage where it would put off potential purchasers if we did decide to move, so we decided to do it anyway. We’re keeping most of the appliances (except the fridge, which I’ve never liked) and keeping the same tiled floor, and everything is going to be more or less in the same place. But all the cabinets and work surfaces and decoration will be new.

>44 richardderus: Thanks Richard. Unfortunately I’ve been in a bit of a reading slump at the moment - also been very busy which I shall write about below.

47SandDune
Aug. 21, 2021, 12:35 pm

>45 PaulCranswick: Two weeks already! We are all fine here, but I have been busy with a number of things, and then this week we visited my mother which was somewhat stressful and which to be honest has put me in a slightly irritable mood all week.

I am becoming quite concerned about my mother’s deteriorating cognitive health. Last time we saw her she seemed to have coped with lock down better than expected but this time I found her worse. Her memory is definitely going but she is becoming somewhat confused about places that she has not been to recently. And she is definitely losing interest in things - although she complains about being on her own she does not seem to want to do anything else than watch a very limited range of TV programmes. But what is most difficult is her stubbornness about receiving any help. I doubt if she hears more than two or three words in ten, even of those things that are said very loudly and clearly to her. She has a hearing aid, but will not wear it as she says it does not fit properly, but when we suggest that she should go back to the clinic and get it refitted she won’t. To be honest, that particular battle has been going on for several years, and is one that we have pretty much given up on. But her dentures are broken and that needs sorting out more urgently, but then we have a battle about that. My sister was there a few weeks ago and will be taking her to the optician, and I have arranged for a chiropodist to visit but it is all so difficult and takes much much longer than it should because if obstacles that my Mum is continually putting up. I have sorted out some home care visits starting next week which were another battle: I think I have just about got her to agree to a “trial” but I haven’t broken the news that they are actually coming as yet.

My mother and I have always been very different people. If something needs doing I want to do it immediately, and if I am worried about something over which I have any control at all, I always feel much better once I have made a plan to deal with the worse case scenario. My mother’s approach in this situation is to not think about it all for as long as possible. She has always been stubborn over seemingly trivial items, but with her being able to do less and less for herself the stubbornness has become more and more evident.

At present I think she can still stay in her accommodation, but with assistance. She manages to carry out the day to day tasks of feeding and clothing and washing herself perfectly satisfactorily. Things that happen every week, like ordering her food or paying her milkman, she is fine with, it’s the every-so-often things that are throwing her.

48richardderus
Aug. 21, 2021, 12:49 pm

>47 SandDune: That's very frustrating, Rhian. It's a difficult passage for the whole family.

Here's hoping your mum gets a gift from the gawds and a caregiver she *likes* is given her case.

49SandDune
Bearbeitet: Aug. 21, 2021, 1:41 pm

>48 richardderus: I hope so too. She says she doesn’t want a carer to come in as she wouldn’t know what to talk to them about and she’s managing fine anyway … And she could just phone me or my sister if she needs assistance. Trouble is she doesn’t phone either of us if she has a problem and never has done, and I live 5 hours away and my sister isn’t even in the same country most of the time. It’s just not practical to keep popping over all the time. If she has carers (I’m thinking twice a week at the moment) they can sort our her appointments, take her to the dentist or optician or whatever, and alert us if there is a major problem. She does have friends who do her shopping with their own, and do other bits and pieces, but they must be well into their eighties themselves and it doesn’t seem fair to expect them to do more.

She would detest a residential home - she’s completely temperamentally unsuited to it - so both me and my sister have agreed that we need to keep her out of one if at all possible.

50SandDune
Aug. 21, 2021, 2:09 pm

So what have we been doing apart from going down to South Wales to see my Mum? Lots of days out mainly.

We’ve been to Nottinghamshire to collect my mother’s old sewing machine that dates from 1910 that I mentioned a few months ago. It’s all restored to working order and nice and shiny:



As it’s a long way there and back we called in at the town of Southwell for lunch and a spot of sightseeing and visited Southwell Minster. I was amazed that this beautiful cathedral had completely passed me by. The nave was completed in 1150 so it has beautiful Romanesque arches: the whole building looks more as if it belongs in Norman France rather than the English Midlands!





And it had fifteenth century French stained glass too!



51SandDune
Bearbeitet: Aug. 21, 2021, 2:36 pm

Talking about stained glass, a week or so previously we’d visited the small town of Long Melford in Suffolk and looked around the church there. That had original medieval stained glass (very unusual as most of it was broken in the reformation), including this one that is said to be the inspiration for John Tenniel’s illustration of the Queen of Hearts in Alice in Wonderland.

52SandDune
Bearbeitet: Aug. 21, 2021, 2:38 pm

We have also been punting in Cambridge. I always really enjoy punting (by which I mean I enjoy relaxing and dangling my hand in the water while someone else does the punting) but we have not been for several years.



Mr SandDune is fairly good at punting. Jacob is less good, as you can perhaps tell from the facial expressions of his passengers.





53SandDune
Aug. 21, 2021, 2:40 pm

Final reason for my absence (and lack of reading completed) has been that I have wanted to finish the blanket that I have been crocheting for Jacob before he takes his stuff back to Lancaster.

Here is the completed article:



54BLBera
Aug. 21, 2021, 2:48 pm

I am so sorry to hear about your mother, Rhian. My parents aren't good at asking for help either, but my youngest sister lives in the same town and stays on top of things.

I love the Singer sewing machine! My grandmother had one like that. I don't know what happened to it.

I love your blanket!

55SandDune
Aug. 21, 2021, 3:03 pm

>54 BLBera: Having a sister close by is so useful! There are very few relatives nearby for my mother: her grandchildren and great grandchildren are widely dispersed. She has a couple of nieces living within a few miles but both are in their eighties themselves and one has had a stroke recently. And as she is so very old (99) most of her friends are already dead.

56richardderus
Aug. 21, 2021, 4:28 pm

>53 SandDune:, >52 SandDune:, >51 SandDune:, >50 SandDune: How fun, creative, and satisfying! I am very impressed with your blanket-making skills.

57SandDune
Aug. 21, 2021, 5:10 pm

>56 richardderus: We wanted to do more over this summer.Last summer, apart from the two weeks that we were actually away, Mr SandDune was just working continuously with all the extra workload that COVID brought and we didn’t have much time to enjoy the season.

58SandDune
Aug. 21, 2021, 5:27 pm

One last photo - the back of our car coming back from South Wales. I just love the way that Daisy has got herself firmly ensconced right in the middle!

59BLBera
Aug. 21, 2021, 6:19 pm

Great picture.

60drneutron
Aug. 21, 2021, 6:34 pm

I showed Mrsdrneutron the pic of the Singer sewing machine. She started drooling a bit. 😀

According to her, that might be pretty valuable - she says to take good care of it.

61lauralkeet
Aug. 21, 2021, 6:38 pm

I'm sorry to hear about your mum's issues, Rhian. The caregivers will be really helpful and give you peace of mind. I bet your mom will see pretty quickly that it's not as bad as she feared.

I love the blanket and the photos of your travels and family activities.

62PaulCranswick
Aug. 21, 2021, 6:51 pm

Difficult times coping with your mum's travails, Rhian, and all I can do is offer virtual hugs and positive vibes from Malaysia.

On a happier note I enjoyed your photos of Southwell and Cambridge - I would have been in J's camp with the punting.

63karenmarie
Aug. 21, 2021, 9:06 pm

Hi Rhian.

I'm sorry about the issues with your mom and hope that she is accepting of some outside care.

Thanks for sharing the pictures of the punting. They make me smile.

The crocheted blanket is wonderful. Jacob looks good in it.

64SandDune
Aug. 22, 2021, 4:16 am

>59 BLBera: Thank you! It’s a very characteristic pose. Daisy loves both Jacob and Caroline a lot and she’s frequently to be found as close to them as possible.

>60 drneutron: Apparently there were a LOT of that particular model made so I don’t think it’s particularly valuable, but it is pretty.

>61 lauralkeet: >62 PaulCranswick: >63 karenmarie: I’m really hoping that some outside assistance will help. They’ll be able to organise her appointments and be on the spot to notice any deterioration in her health. And maybe cook her a nice home cooked meal from time to time. At the moment she could manage on her own if there was someone locally to help her with those things, but I think she may well need help with the day to day tasks in the not too distant future. It would be so much easier if we lived nearer (as I’m sure I have said many times). What would suit my Mum much better is visits of an hour or so much more frequently. She finds long visits tiring, but it’s really all we can do. I think she enjoyed having both Jacob and Caroline there this time - she could look on while they chatted with each other but didn’t need to contribute.

65FAMeulstee
Aug. 22, 2021, 5:15 am

>47 SandDune: So sorry about the difficulties with your mother, Rhian, I hope you find some solution.
Reading about her I agree a home for the elderly would not suit her.

Thanks for sharing the pictures, I especially enjoyed the stained glass, the puntering (in my teens I once went (sail-)puntering for a week), and the three on the backseat of the car.

66lauralkeet
Aug. 22, 2021, 7:26 am

>64 SandDune: I think you're wise to start with some form of help now, so things are already in place if your mum needs help with day to day tasks. My mom lived in a senior living community (with meals provided) after my dad's health made it such that they could no longer live in their suburban home. Mom remained in an "independent living" apartment for the rest of her days, on the cusp but not quite qualifying for assisted living. So we supplemented with outside help. Often they were more of a companion than anything else. My mom was absolutely not a social person but still, being alone with nothing other than television is not good for you. Having someone come in to tidy things up, check on her, and stay for a while seemed to help. Like your mom, mine would have resisted this if she'd been asked, but it all just kind of happened and she didn't push back. I hope it's the same for you.

67richardderus
Aug. 22, 2021, 9:39 am

>57 SandDune: A worthy resolve, well met. And well-timed, given the probability of more restrictions as Delta jabs at us.

Stay well.

68humouress
Bearbeitet: Aug. 23, 2021, 11:30 am

Hi Rhian! Belated happy new thread. Thank you for sharing all your photos; I like the ones of J punting and of Fingal's cave especially.

I'm sorry to hear that your mum seems worse. I have to admit I'm rather like her - putting off anything I'm reluctant to do. I'm not sure why so I'm afraid I can't offer any solutions. I hope getting someone in to help works out.

>13 elkiedee: That's where I heard it! I was racking my brains for Tobermory.

>36 SandDune: Jasper has a thing for cats too; maybe that old myth has some truth in it.

69magicians_nephew
Aug. 23, 2021, 2:05 pm

>52 SandDune: Good on Mister SD! Punting is a lot of work but fun when everything works right. That pole is heavy!

70Caroline_McElwee
Aug. 23, 2021, 5:57 pm

You are doing the best you can for your mum Rhian, while still trying to respect the independent spirit she retains. Although that is a challenge, how wonderful to still have it at her age.

Love the travels and punting, and what a gorgeous blanket. I'm sure it will be a much loved and used heirloom.

Haha re Daisy.

71SandDune
Aug. 24, 2021, 4:15 am

>67 richardderus: Most of the things we are doing are outside, so hopefully fairly low risk, but it is nice to get out and about again.

Mr SandDune and Jacob have gone away again this week, hill walking in the Yorkshire Dales. They go most years (last year excluded because of COVID and also because Mr SandDune was so busy). As they are staying within about an hour of Lancaster they took all Jacob’s Uni stuff and deposited it in his new house. He’s coming back here after their trip, but then he’s going back to Lancaster towards the beginning of September so he can look for a job. But now that most of his stuff is transported he will be able to go back on the train.

72SandDune
Bearbeitet: Aug. 24, 2021, 5:04 am

>68 humouress: I would have liked to have spent more time on Staffa and Fingal’s cave. We were quite rushed at the cave as we had spent a long time sitting and watching the puffins. And to be honest I could have spent another hour sitting and watching the puffins.

When my Dad was alive, her reluctance for action and decision making was counter-balanced by his liking for action and tendency to spur of the moment decisions! But since she has been alone her comfort zone has retreated until it is very small indeed.

>69 magicians_nephew: It was a lot quieter punting in Cambridge this time. Usually the river is initially full of teenage language students (one of whom invariably falls in) or foreign tourists. But as they can’t punt properly they don’t usually get very far and even then it’s usually still possible to get to a quieter bit of river if you go out of town towards Granchester.

>70 Caroline_McElwee: It is difficult to know what to do for the best. We took my Mum out to lunch on Wednesday. She initially announced that she would just have soup, but she has a long history announcing that she doesn’t want anything on a menu, and then enjoying it when it comes, and we are trying to feed her up, so I persuaded her to get roast pork. The roast pork portion was too big (which always puts her off to start with) and then the pub had obviously decided to jazz up its food so it was served in a rather pretentious way. So my Mum immediately announced that the pork was too tough and she didn’t like the vegetables. I don’t think she’d even tried any pork at that stage, and I had the same dish which seemed fine to me. But she ended up just eating a few potatoes and refusing to have a pudding. She will never have a pudding as she thinks she won’t finish it, although she does like them. This is the woman who told the Maitre D’ at Le Manoir aux Quatre Saisons (we were there for my sister’s golden anniversary) that his beef was too tough when it was actually the most tender beef that I have ever tasted in my life! So I should have let her have the soup and then felt guilt that I’d persuaded her against it! Oh well.

73Caroline_McElwee
Aug. 24, 2021, 4:04 pm

>72 SandDune: I did chuckle at that Rhian. Well I guess the fuss puts her at the centre of attention. Maybe you order soup, and an extra plate to put a spoonful of everyone else's meal on so she can sample everything, without feeling she will waste a meal. Or order a child's portion.

Great that J's stuff could go up now, saving the long round trip

I'd love to see puffins.

74msf59
Aug. 24, 2021, 5:22 pm

I love all the family holiday photos, Rhian. Looks like a wonderful time. Hooray for punting!

75klobrien2
Aug. 26, 2021, 5:19 pm

>24 SandDune: Ooh, you got me with The Dictionary of Lost Words! Looks great--thanks for the "heads up."

Karen O.

76SandDune
Aug. 30, 2021, 4:33 am

>73 Caroline_McElwee: My optimism with my Mum was short lived. Speaking to my Mum after the visit she said she wasn’t very impressed. Try as I might I can not get out of her what it was that she wasn’t very impressed about. At first she said it was because they wanted a key and she ‘didn’t believe in that sort of thing’. After much investigation it seems that they didn’t actually ask to have a key at all but it was mentioned as a possibility in a leaflet that they had left. Then she said that her friends could take her to things. Bear in mind that the friends she is talking about are in their late eighties themselves and already do her shopping and take her to the doctors. Asking them to take on numerous dental appointments and opticians appointments and just making sure she makes these appointments in the first place (as well as provide general support) seems far too much to ask of people weren’t particularly close friends in the first place. Then she says if she’s going to have ‘these people’ coming in she might as well go into a home, in a sort of emotional blackmailing sort of way. How bad can it be having support for 2 hours a week? And she doesn’t want me to speak to the agency to try and improve whatever it was that was wrong and won’t tell me what was wrong anyway. My guess (knowing my Mum) is that it was something very minor: the carer was overly friendly or too chatty or too young or suggested an activity which my Mum didn’t want or arrived slightly early or slight late ….

It feels like the experience of taking my Mum to a restaurant magnified 10 times over. She won’t say what she wants in the first place, then when she gets there it’s frequently not what she does want, but she won’t say why. And then she shuts down and won’t participate in the whole restaurant experience by ordering anything. She seems to expect us to magically produce the perfect meal for her without any clues from herself as to what that might be.

As you can tell this is all driving me around the bend. When I came off the phone I tried a therapeutic scream to see if that made be feel better but it didn’t and I just succeeded in frightening the dog.

77lauralkeet
Aug. 30, 2021, 7:49 am

Rhian, I am so sorry to read this. I can't help but be reminded of my own mother's situation. She would make snap judgements about carers -- sometimes even ones who had been visiting her for some time -- and that was that, a new carer had to be supplied. In my darker moments I wondered if the agency would run out of potential carers before my mother passed away.

I really struggled with trying to reason with my mother when doing so was actually beyond her capabilities. I have since heard the same from others regarding their aging parents. The ones who have coped with it best have been able to placate their parent by appearing to agree with or be sympathetic to their comments, while continuing to make arrangements for care as necessary. I know that feels kind of duplicitous and is easier said than done. Just a thought. Again, I'm so sorry you're going through this.

78magicians_nephew
Aug. 30, 2021, 8:24 am

>76 SandDune: Very sorry to hear Rhian. Hang in there. The dog can get used to this

79Caroline_McElwee
Aug. 30, 2021, 1:19 pm

>76 SandDune: Very frustrating Rhian. My dad did get to 90, and we didn't get to a stage where carers were necessary. He coped with our help in his own home til the end. But listening to the experiences of others reminds me to remember not to be so contrary if I get to an age where outside support is needed. But then maybe the difficult ancients thought the same before their minds and bodies became more compromised.

Ear scratches for Daisy.

80richardderus
Aug. 30, 2021, 2:08 pm

>76 SandDune: Oh, no...I'm so so empathetic with your plight. I hope for your sanity's sake you'll get to the other side of this with some shreds of self-belief intact.

81SandDune
Sept. 1, 2021, 3:07 pm

>74 msf59: Thanks Mark! It seems as if the summer is over all of a sudden. The weather, which to be honest hasn’t been great for the last few weeks, has taken a turn for the worse, and when I went out today it suddenly struck me that it’s a bit too chilly for sandals any more. And Mr SandDune is back to school as of yesterday (and quite indignant to be back in August, even on 31st) and Jacob will be going back to Lancaster some time next week probably …

>77 lauralkeet: >78 magicians_nephew: >79 Caroline_McElwee: >80 richardderus: Thanks for all the sympathy! At the moment Mum has agreed to have someone once a week, which I suppose is progress, although she’s very grumpy about it. Hopefully things will settle down.

82BLBera
Sept. 1, 2021, 9:57 pm

Good luck with your mum, Rhian. We went through similar issues with my grandparents, which I hope my parents remember when they need extra help, which may be soon...

I am also back at school. I agree with Mr. SandDune that going back in August feels unfair.

83SandDune
Sept. 2, 2021, 11:05 am

Was eating breakfast this morning when I realised that I had not dropped a piece of grapefruit on Daisy’s head as I initially thought, but she seemed to have been bitten by something. We’re not sure what bit her - it definitely wasn’t there yesterday evening so we assume that it happened first thing this morning. We think maybe a cat? Can’t think of anything else that would be in our garden and able to inflict a bite? Maybe a fox? There are foxes around although I’ve never actually seen one in our back garden. It’s not a deep or large bite, just a small round area where all the fur is off and the topmost later of skin. I emailed a picture to the vet but they don’t think they need to see her unless it doesn’t heal properly.

84Caroline_McElwee
Sept. 2, 2021, 3:36 pm

>83 SandDune: Poor Daisy. Though I'm sure she will enjoy the extra pampering she is bound to get.

85richardderus
Sept. 2, 2021, 7:27 pm

Poor Daisy! I send virtual ear-skritches.
***
Normally I am a person who Knows My Own Mind. Startling, I realize, for you to hear this...as I've always been such a soft-spoken crowd-goer-alonger.

Stop laughing.

Anyway. I need help. The wisdom of the crowd is sought to help be decide between two equally strong contenders for Read of the Month. I am simply incapable to unparalyzing myself from the FOMO I get thinking about this problem.

Please vote on the poll or you will be directly responsible for my re-admission to the Goofy Garage this birthmonth.

86SandyAMcPherson
Sept. 4, 2021, 9:42 am

hi Rhian, finally made over to your thread to comment. I love all your travel photos.
The stained glass from such an old era are magnificent. Loved the punting photos, as well.

The elderly hand-crank Singer Sewing machine is very like mine, which was manufactured in 1910 at St. Jean, Québec (Canada). It has a 4-digit serial number which indicates its factory source and year. My model was a prtablecomplete with carrying case and some fancy accessory feet, like a ruffler. In those days, the sewing machines only sewed forwards! You could also mount it on a treadle stand and there was an extra leather loop to attach to the drive on the crank.

My photos aren't as lovely, but the machine was in good shape when I sold it about 10 years ago (in case anyone is curious, $300 CAD, including the treadle stand, refurbished). So just for fun... (and apologies for hijacking your thread),

front view

and the reverse side,

87karenmarie
Sept. 5, 2021, 10:14 am

>76 SandDune: How frustrating for you. Your mum trying to control her environment and you makes for nastiness all around. I like what Laura said in >77 lauralkeet: – just continue to make arrangements as best you can.

>81 SandDune: Keeping my fingers crossed for you that it all works out.

>83 SandDune: Isn’t it wonderful to be able to email photos to vets for instant feedback?

88SandDune
Sept. 9, 2021, 3:38 pm

>82 BLBera: >84 Caroline_McElwee: >85 richardderus: >86 SandyAMcPherson: >87 karenmarie:
So sorry for ignoring everyone. It’s been a week and a half!

We have been having our kitchen redone, so at the weekend we had to move absolutely everything that was in our kitchen elsewhere. So we set up a little food preparation centre in the dining room (kettle, microwave, slow-cooker) with the food and equipment basics, and scattered the rest of the kitchen equipment and food and scattered around the house and garage. We do a lot of cooking so there was a lot of stuff. And then we had to reorganise the garage to fit in all the new stuff that was being delivered prior to the fitting. And this week we have had the fitters in every day and I always find it stressful having strangers in the house … And there’s been so much else to sort out with the kitchen: lots of deliveries; ordering tiles; choosing paint colours; numerous discussions with kitchen fitters. We have been left one sink at the moment (thank goodness) but we have to walk through the living room, conservatory, garden and back in the back door to get to it. It is not convenient.

And then also on Monday I took Daisy to the vets to get see her eye examined again: she has had an eye ulcer which had been healing nicely and I was hoping it was her final visit. But it had stopped healing and hadn’t got any smaller since the last visit so they recommended doing some more vigorous treatment. Apparently the cells in the epithelium of her eye are not attaching to the rest of it as they should which is causing problems. And the ‘bite’ on the top of her head isn’t a bite at all but a bacterial hotspot. So rather than having a quick appointment the poor dog ended up staying in the vets to be sedated to have her eye sorted out and her head cleaned up and came out very unhappy indeed. She has to wear the cone of shame for 10 days which she does not like at all and currently has a contact lens in to protect her eye. And she’s got medication for her eye and two lots of medication for her head … and she has to go back to the vets tomorrow.

And then this afternoon I got ‘pinged’ by the COVID app as being a contact of someone with COVID. It is supposed to ping if you have been within 2m of someone testing positive for more than 15 minutes. Apparently my exposure was on Monday, and I can only think that it was either at the vets where I was standing outside talking to the vet for some time or when we went for coffee where we also sat outside. Current guidance is that you do not have to self-isolate if you are double jabbed (which I am) but you should get a PCR test. So I am going for that tomorrow morning. But we were going away this weekend and although you don’t have to self-isolate it certainly doesn’t seem right going to someone else’s house so we are staying at home.

So all in all I’ve had better weeks!

89Caroline_McElwee
Sept. 9, 2021, 4:05 pm

Oh what a frustrating week Rhian. The kitchen pain will bring rewards, as will Daisy's recovery, but the Ping and lost break is too much. Especially without full use of said kitchen at the moment.

Hang in there.

90katiekrug
Sept. 9, 2021, 4:11 pm

>88 SandDune: - Well, OOF all around! I hope the next week is a better one, Rhian.

91SandDune
Sept. 9, 2021, 5:03 pm

>82 BLBera: Well, my Mum seems to be slight more reconciled this week ….

>84 Caroline_McElwee: >85 richardderus: Daisy is currently doing her very best to demolish her cone. She has absolutely no concept of how wide it is.

>86 SandyAMcPherson: That looked a lovely machine. My Mum never did enough sewing to convert the machine to anything more fancy, but I remember that my aunt had a pretty old treadle machine that she converted to electric.

>87 karenmarie: Trouble was the vet’s opinion by email wasn’t the right one! To be honest, it looked to us as if the issue on her head was clearing up, but obviously not. It is getting quite difficult to get vet’s appointments here and many vet’s are apparently not taking on new patients. The combination of Brexit, COVID, and everyone having gone out to buy puppies during lockdown, means that there are fewer vets and more pets. And my practice is still operating a closed door policy, which takes longer.

>89 Caroline_McElwee: >90 katiekrug: We won’t starve - we have stuff in the freezer that can be microwaved. But everything seems to take about three times as long as it should. The kitchen fitters will be here all next week - I wouldn’t be 100% surprised if it goes into the following week for tiling and finishing off.

92richardderus
Sept. 9, 2021, 5:30 pm

>88 SandDune: Gross. Poor Daisy! Y'all brought it on y'all's ownselves, getting your kitchen refitted! in a pandemic! what were you thinking?!...but the puppy is all the way innocent.

Bad day about the ping, though.

93quondame
Bearbeitet: Sept. 9, 2021, 6:59 pm

>88 SandDune: I'm so sorry about Daisy's problems. I do hope she recovers quickly. It's a bummer too about the COVID proximity. I don't know if that sort of app is available in California - I'd bet there was someone at Urgent care the 3 mornings I had to spend there who will test positive this week. Everyone was masked, well almost, and distanced, but we did have to walk by with less distance from time to time, and a lot of people went through the waiting room in the hours I was there.

It would be such a good time to put some distance between you and your kitchen too. Why is your story making me want to tear apart my kitchen? It makes NO sense.

94SandyAMcPherson
Sept. 9, 2021, 10:15 pm

>88 SandDune: Ouch! Kitchen (and then, bathroom renos) are dreadful alterations and fix ups to manage and live through. It doesn't help that the problems Daisy (and you) had to face were so difficult.

And then that Ping. OMG. You must be feeling slaughtered and then writing it all out for us, too. Thanks for the difficult update. I hope for you to be Covid-less.

95PaulCranswick
Sept. 9, 2021, 10:34 pm

>88 SandDune: Sorry to read about your travails, Rhian. The phone app that everyone must use in Malaysia relating to COVID (why is it assumed that everyone must have a mobile phone) has been adjusted slightly after all these months so that you have to sign out of a place you have been to as well as signing in. Danger is of course that if you forget then the number of close proximity pings is going to go through the roof.

Shame that your weekend was spoiled by some unknown cause.

Pats to Daisy.

96Sakerfalcon
Sept. 10, 2021, 5:32 am

Poor Daisy, I hope she will be better soon. It's hard when we can't explain to our animal friends why we have to cause them discomfort.

Aaargh to the ping! I was pinged a few weeks ago, just before the change in the rules, so even though my PCR test came back negative I still had to isolate.

>95 PaulCranswick: Apparently a lot of people in the UK may have been pinged because there is no provision on the app for signing out. So you may have left the venue hours before the positive case arrived but will still get pinged. Malaysia's tweak sounds like a very good idea.

97SandDune
Sept. 10, 2021, 6:41 am

>92 richardderus: >93 quondame: It is a much postponed kitchen refurbishment. It was the original kitchen from when the house was built in 1995. I originally started thinking about a new kitchen in 2016/2017 but we promised Jacob we would not get it done when he was doing his 6th form course as it is very disruptive, so it was vaguely planned for late 2018. And then of course he changed schools and and getting his A levels took 2 years longer than expected. So if it had not been for the pandemic we would have definitely started on a new kitchen by the autumn of 2020. But the pandemic came along and here we are.

We are still thinking of moving at some stage but as Mr SandDune has decided to stay at work at least another year it wouldn’t be for 18 months at the very minimum and he might decide to stay on another year after that. And I think the kitchen was getting to the stage where it would put off prospective buyers, so I think it will be worth it even if we do move at some stage.

>93 quondame: >95 PaulCranswick: >96 Sakerfalcon: I think the app works in 2 ways. It has the QR code reader which you use to scan into a venue (restaurant, pub, museum, library etc). At one stage every venue of this type had to collect contact info for all their clients, so most people do have the app as it meant you didn’t need to keep write your name and address.
And it also scans apps belonging to people nearby (Bluetooth I think) and if they subsequently test positive it alerts people who have been in the 2m zone for more than 15 minutes. I think it is the latter type of contact that has alerted me, as I don’t remember scanning any QR codes on Monday, which is when the contact apparently took place. It doesn’t tell you the location, unfortunately.

98lauralkeet
Sept. 10, 2021, 7:25 am

that's quite a week, Rhian. We remodeled a kitchen many years ago and I remember the inconvenience but the results were worth it. I'm sure it will be the same for you.

Sorry about the covid exposure and hope your test turns out negative.

Poor Daisy! Vets near us are experiencing the same workload/capacity issues, with longer than usual wait times for appointments (unless it's urgent of course).

99SandDune
Sept. 10, 2021, 8:26 am

>98 lauralkeet: They seem to be making good progress with the kitchen so I think they’re on track to finish next week. But this is the most disruptive thing I’ve ever had done.

So this morning I had an ultrasound at 8.30am to look at some persistent abdominal pain (which of course had disappeared as soon as I received the appointment) and which didn’t show anything untoward, my PCR test and Daisy’s vet appointment. I was a little worried about getting home in time to take Daisy to her appointment as the PCR test (at the local airport) was booked for 11.00am and Daisy’s appointment was midday. But the PCR test was very quick, and they saw me straight away despite the fact that I was early, so I was back home for 11.15.

And the vet seemed happy with Daisy’s progress. She has not managed to dislodge her contact lens as yet and everything seems to be healing nicely. She’ll be able to take the cone off on Monday. I have to take her back in ten days time, but hopefully that will be her last visit.

This afternoon Jacob is heading off back to Lancaster - he’s going to try and get a job before the start of term. His girlfriend is going back with him for a week or so as she has some spare time before she starts her police training in October.

100SandDune
Sept. 10, 2021, 8:28 am

>94 SandyAMcPherson: Sorry Sandy, I’d missed you out. Everything has all just been a bit much this week to be honest. I’m looking forward to a quieter weekend.

101PawsforThought
Sept. 10, 2021, 9:20 am

Sorry to hear you've had (and continue to have) so much weighing on you and disturbing the peace. Glad to hear some improvements are happening though. And I'm sorry poor Daisy has to see the vet so much. It's always something when you go to the vet, isn't it? I think I dread the vet more than my cat does (but he's insanely social and likes to hug the vets, which I generally don't do.)

102BLBera
Sept. 10, 2021, 10:06 am

Fingers crossed that you will soon have a beautiful new kitchen, Rhian. That is the most disruptive room to remodel.

Best wishes to Daisy.

I hope things settle back to normal soon.

103richardderus
Sept. 10, 2021, 10:14 am

Quieter-weekend happiness wishes, and a coneless-Daisy skritch in reserve for Monday.

104quondame
Bearbeitet: Sept. 10, 2021, 3:45 pm

>97 SandDune: Aside from an ill advised new floor surface and a disastrous paint job, our kitchen is basically from 1970. It really needs to be fire bombed, once the appliances, which are new, are moved a safe distance away.

>99 SandDune: Last time I had serious illusive abdominal pain it turned out to be lactose intolerance. I think it resulted from a really stupid diet I was on for about 8 months. After about 5 years of lactaise pills, I re-gained my ability to digest lactose, which I knew could happen from a research lab I worked at briefly.

105Caroline_McElwee
Sept. 10, 2021, 4:34 pm

>99 SandDune: Glad the ultrasound showed nothing ominous Rhian, and everything else was managed. Daisy will be happy to see her cone go, but not J and his girlfriend I suspect.

Adding to Richard's wishes for a quiet and uneventful weekend.

106SandyAMcPherson
Sept. 11, 2021, 10:30 am

>105 Caroline_McElwee: Moi, aussi (wishes for a quiet and uneventful weekend), both for you, Rhian and me, 'cause Covid variant cases are galloping forward here, in the province with the worst management of the virus and un-vaxxed citizens in Canada.

107SandDune
Bearbeitet: Sept. 11, 2021, 1:56 pm

Well the good news is I tested negative for COVID! The result came through about an hour ago. So relieved about that!

But the bad news is …. our bedroom has been invaded by bird mites! Mr SandDune discovered them this morning when he woke up at about 1.00am this morning feeling very itchy. So at 1.30am we were having showers and making up the bed in the spare bedroom and today we have spent hours and hours trying to vacuum them all up. I didn’t even know bird mites invasions were a thing. But apparently when the birds leave their nest any bird mites that were nice and cosy come looking for new birds. Or unlucky humans! From what I can tell they cannot live permanently on humans or dogs but we have the pest control people coming around on Monday to deal with them. I am usually very tolerant of the natural world - it can do what it wants in the garden, or in the garage for that matter - but I can’t cope with creepy-crawlies in the bedroom.

To be honest, this has not been the best week ever!

108SandDune
Sept. 11, 2021, 2:07 pm

As you may have noticed, I have not got much reading done at all recently. I was thinking once Mr SandDune got back to work I would have more time but what with all the kitchen shenanigans and Daisy’s problems it hasn’t worked out like that. But I am reading a couple now that I am enjoying Claire North’s Notes from the Burning Age and K.J.Parker’s Sixteen Ways to Defend a Walled City. And I’ve also read Polly Samson’s A Theatre for Dreamers for my RL book club, which was O.K. but not really my sort of thing.

109SandDune
Sept. 11, 2021, 2:27 pm

>101 PawsforThought: Daisy is seeming improved today and her eye is looks little more normal. The atropine (which she had to dilate her pupil) is wearing off slightly. She clearly wants to run around and enjoy herself and is not appreciative of only lead walks!

>102 BLBera: They do seem to be on course to finish by the end of next week, fingers crossed. But even if it’s not 100% finished, it should at least be useable by next weekend.

>103 richardderus: Thank you Richard - but as you see it hasn’t turned out quite like that so far!

>104 quondame: But if it’s 1970’s you can say it’s vintage! We aren’t getting all new appliances: we are keeping the dishwasher, and washing machine and tumble dryer. I don’t believe in replacing things for no reason. But we are getting new hob and oven and fridge. I’ve always disliked our current fridge, but unfortunately the type of fridge that I want does not seem to exist. What I wanted was a tall standard width fridge with a very small freezer compartment or at least an ice cube maker and I could not find one like that anywhere. All the fridge-freezers had far too much freezer compartment, and we already have two large freezers in the garage so didn’t really want any more. I just wanted somewhere to keep the ice cubes!

110SandDune
Sept. 11, 2021, 2:43 pm

>105 Caroline_McElwee: Daisy will miss Jacob and Caroline. Jacob was 9 when we got Daisy and I know a lot of teenagers want dogs and then tire of them very quickly but to be fair to Jacob he has always been prepared to put the time in with her. And Caroline is a frustrated dog owner (her mother is allergic so she has never had one). I have been left with instructions to make sure that Daisy has plenty of play time!

>106 SandyAMcPherson: Sorry to hear that Sandy! I’m not altogether happy with the way that our government is handling things either. They very much seem to want to convince people that it’s all over, which it’s very much not. We have a lot of cases. Most people do seem to be getting vaxxed though.

111FAMeulstee
Sept. 11, 2021, 4:03 pm

>107 SandDune: That is awful, Rhian, I wouldn't cope well either with mites in my bedroom! I hope you can return to sleep in your bedroom Monday night.

Sorry about Daisy, did she crack the cone yet?
Our Chimay was a master in cracking/breaking cones. She would run through the house, as if she had no cone, bumping into walls and door posts (sp?). Within a few days I would have duck-taped it all over to keep it together. I had other dogs getting overly cautious with a cone, but not Chimay!

112Caroline_McElwee
Sept. 11, 2021, 4:11 pm

>107 SandDune: Yay re covid result. Boo to the bird mites. Waving red card after recent events.

>110 SandDune: Well I'm in little doubt Daisy will be short of play time.

I agree that the UK govt has been acting as if Covid is a thing of the past, but this weekend I notice signs of announcements due about tightening up rules if people aren't cautious. There are certainly a larger amount of folk not wearing masks on transport, from what I notice, mostly in their 20s/30s. I guess having been told at the beginning they were less vulnerable, it's harder to shift their thinking.

Well the double jabbed are only in the 65-68% (can't find the figure where it usually is), so still work to be done with a 1/3rd of the population, though better than some countries.

113SandDune
Sept. 11, 2021, 5:25 pm

>111 FAMeulstee: Daisy’s the same as Chimay - she just bundles about with no idea how wide the cone is at all. Surprisingly it is still in one piece, and it only has to last for another couple of days.

>112 Caroline_McElwee: The bird mites are very depressing. The birds have been nesting in the same place in our honeysuckle for years, and this has never happened before.

I think it’s about 80% of over 18’s that are double-jabbed. I think that the lower figures include the under 18s as well, most of whom aren’t eligible as yet. Personally, I’d make vaccination compulsory for any sort of large event or attendance at university lectures. Jacob says most of the people he knows are getting vaccinated (he’s double jabbed), but he tends to know fairly sensible people!

114quondame
Bearbeitet: Sept. 11, 2021, 5:32 pm

>109 SandDune: Alas, the 70s weren't good vintage years for kitchens. I understand about the freezer to fridge space issue. It never does seem right. I would love to have a freezer separate from the refrigerator, but can't really justify it in terms of actual usage.

>107 SandDune: Etch about the mites. Bizarre infestation!

115SandDune
Bearbeitet: Sept. 11, 2021, 5:46 pm

>114 quondame: We have a “lot” of freezer space now because we bought a new chest freezer after the first COVID lockdown to make sure that we had sufficient supplies if it happened again!

I’m almost 100% sure that they’re bird mites, having read up on it this morning. They are definitely coming from outside, but they are so very small that they can get through the tiniest gap.

116richardderus
Sept. 11, 2021, 7:59 pm

...bird...mites...::eyeroll::

Y'know, the goddesses are really reaching for unpleasantnesses to heap upon you when they have to resort to avian-parasite remnant populations. Damned effective barrel-scraping, I admit, but still...::eyeroll::

117SandDune
Bearbeitet: Sept. 12, 2021, 9:43 am

>116 richardderus: Well the inward march of the bird mites seems to have slowed to a trickle. We have taped up the window (not really a long term solution I know) and the only ones getting in now seem to be very tiny (almost microscopic) and much fewer. Trouble is I am staring suspiciously at any speck of dust anywhere in the house to see if it is moving. And what with the kitchen works, there is a certain amount of dust ….

118karenmarie
Sept. 12, 2021, 11:04 am

Hi Rhian!

>107 SandDune: *shudder* Ewwww.

>109 SandDune: We’ll never build another house, but if we did build one, I would want a full-size refrigerator AND a full-size freezer in the kitchen, plus the additional full-size freezer in the garage. Sorry you can’t get exactly what you want.

119magicians_nephew
Sept. 12, 2021, 11:52 am

Hang in there Riann

120SandDune
Bearbeitet: Sept. 12, 2021, 12:43 pm

40. A Theatre for Dreamers Polly Samson ***



It is 1960 and Erica’s mother has just died, leaving her an unexpected legacy of £1,000 with instructions to ‘Dare to Dream’. Escaping her violent and bullying father she heads for the Greek island of Hydra, where her mother’s friend Charmian Clift is at the centre of an ex-pat community of artists and writers. Centred on the charismatic Charmian and her husband the author George Johnson, the community includes Swedish writer Axel Jensen and his wife Marianne Ihlen, and the new arrival the Canadian poet Leonard Cohen. As an inexperienced and naive girl of 18, Erica struggles to deal with the events around her as the retsina flows like water and arguments and jealousies rage.

I felt that I was the wrong reader for this book. With most of the characters being based on real people a little back story would have helped, but the author seems to assume that the individuals are well enough known for this not to be necessary. The only person I had actually heard of was Leonard Cohen, and I’m not even 100% sure I’d heard of him before he died. The blurb on the back calls it ‘a blissful piece of escapism’ and ‘as good as a Greek Holiday’. All I can say is if I had a Greek holiday like that one I’d want my money back. It is not an appealing community (to be honest they all seemed pretty dreadful people) and I wasn’t that interested in spending time with them. I found that the most interesting character was the fictional Erica, and I would have liked to have her story fleshed out a little more.

Although it wasn’t for me the book does have its good points. It has a lot to say about early feminism: the women have artistic ambitions of their own, but they are still being pushed into the role of wife and mother and muse to the all-important men. And it is beautifully written and evokes the atmosphere of a Greek island perfectly.
’I cart our block of ice back up to the house, stopping only to make way for a jingling train of donkeys and to talk to various cats sprawling in familiar patches of sunlight on the twisting steps. My favourite black cat has hidden her kittens among clumps of rosemary in the rubbled terrace of the crumbling house below ours. I push the brambles aside and talk to her as they suckle and her semi-precious eyes shine.’

Overall, I won’t be looking out for more by this author.

121SandDune
Sept. 12, 2021, 1:07 pm

>118 karenmarie: Our kitchen isn’t really big enough for a full size fridge AND freezer. So it’s either a frieze-freezer which isn’t going to have enough fridge space for me, or a big fridge on its own.

>118 karenmarie: >119 magicians_nephew: I have been consoling myself by buying different sorts of Gü puddings as a treat. Today we have Chocolate Melting Middle Hot Puds and Peruvian Lime Cheesecake (not at the same time obviously). I don’t think you can get them in the U.S. but they are very nice.

122richardderus
Sept. 12, 2021, 2:22 pm

>120 SandDune: Oh dear...that does not sound at all pleasant. Sorry!

>117 SandDune: *shudder* I join you in your beady-eyed contemplation of the dust....

123SandDune
Sept. 13, 2021, 8:49 am

>122 richardderus: The pest control people came this morning and confirmed that the problem is bird mites, as we thought, coming in through the window frame (they are very tiny). They are coming back to deal with it on Wednesday morning. And we have several gardeners coming to quote for trimming the honeysuckle and removing any residual bird nests, which hopefully we can also get done this week. And the duvets and pillows have gone to the dry cleaners to be cleaned. And the kitchen fitters are still here (3 of them tomorrow apparently). And the tiles for the kitchen are coming tomorrow. And I need to take my car for a service and MOT on Thursday. So it’s not going to be a quiet week this week either!

124lauralkeet
Sept. 13, 2021, 12:20 pm

Yikes, that's a lot to deal with in one week, Rhian. I'm glad you have a plan for those pesky bird mites though.

125richardderus
Sept. 13, 2021, 1:29 pm

126SandDune
Sept. 13, 2021, 3:11 pm



Daisy has been released from the cone. She still has a bald patch on her head, and her right eye is still not 100% although it is improving. The pupil size is slowly going back to normal and she’s opening it a lot better.

127quondame
Sept. 13, 2021, 7:33 pm

>125 richardderus: It only works when there's someone to take your surrender!

128SandDune
Sept. 14, 2021, 11:36 am

>125 richardderus: >127 quondame: Well nothing else too bad has happened today. I have my dishwasher back (hurray) but now have no sink or washing machine or running water in kitchen at all (boo). They were going to fit the kitchen worktops today but wanted to cut them outside and it has been torrential rain all day so there was a change of plan and they pulled out the utility room fittings instead. And because of the rain the gardener couldn’t come, but he is coming tomorrow. So things are progressing!

129SandDune
Bearbeitet: Sept. 14, 2021, 3:26 pm

41.Notes from the Burning Age Claire North



‘It was about the time of the great migrations, when all the nations began to splinter like the burning bough and the wars of water and grain came upon the lands, that the kakuy woke. First they rose from the skeletons of the ocean reefs, glistening bone and acid breath. Then they climbed from the shattered mines, and their eyes were embers of coal and their feet broke the towns beneath their feet. Then they came from the sky itself, upon thunder and lightening they blazed, tearing down the monuments of man, and bidding the Earth swallow whole the sacrileges of the Burning Age.’

At least, that’s what the historians of the Temple say, a religion that is devoted to living in complete harmony with the Earth to ensure that the kakuy do not rise again. But people say the kakuy have not been seen for generations, the desperation of the Burning Age has been forgotten, and ambitious men chafe against the Temple’s restrictions. Ven, a failed priest with knowledge of archaic English and German and a handful of other ancient languages, finds himself working as a translator for the ambitious Georg, the power behind the populist movement called the Brotherhood. To investigate the technology of the Burning Age is heretical, and its archives are strictly controlled by the Temple, so how is Georg getting so much information? And is Ven really quite as disinterested in Georg’s affairs as he seems …

A thriller set in the far future when our own civilisation has collapsed entirely, but one in which humanity is about to make the same mistakes. Recommended.

130richardderus
Sept. 14, 2021, 3:40 pm

>129 SandDune: That sounds very intriguing indeed.

>128 SandDune: Acts of the gods like drenching rains being inevitable, it isn't the worst thing ever. Mildly irksome at most, and given the tsurres you've been in the middle of for a while now, paltry!

131charl08
Sept. 16, 2021, 2:57 pm

>126 SandDune: Aw. Hope she is feeling better.

The kitchen /mites / vet travails sound pretty full on.

>129 SandDune: I'll have a look for this one. Sounds a bit like the plot of a recent Robert Harris book?

132Caroline_McElwee
Sept. 16, 2021, 4:11 pm

>126 SandDune: Good to see Daisy is on the mend Rhian. I know she will be glad to be shot of the pesky 'lampshade'.

133Familyhistorian
Sept. 17, 2021, 1:13 am

Great holiday pictures, Rhian. I've always wanted to go to Staffa. Your holidays probably seem a long way away with all of the things you are contending with. Good luck with the kitchen renos. I went through one of those and they're pretty disruptive. I hope that the bird mite problem is thoroughly eradicated.

134SandDune
Bearbeitet: Sept. 17, 2021, 3:56 am

>130 richardderus: Well Wednesday really got to me. Because of the deluge on Tuesday we ended up having the pest control man and two gardeners and the kitchen men here at the same time. I took a VERY strong dislike to the pest control man. Within 5 minutes of being in the house he had insulted both the Welsh and environmental campaigners (I fall into both camps) to such an extent that if he had been there for any other reason other than the bugs then I’d have asked him to leave immediately. I mean if a customer tells you that they are going to be doing an online Welsh class for the next hour and a half so please only interrupt if essential, in what world is it good business practice to then start with the ‘I went into a pub in Wales and they all immediately started talking Welsh to freeze me out’ crap? And then him and the gardener stand outside and chat to all the other workmen about how the mites are our fault because we’ve let the honeysuckle get too thick. And so the honeysuckle had to come down completely and now I feel guilty about depriving the birds of their nesting areas - I would have liked to thin it out so there was room for sparrows (which have never caused any problems) but not pigeons. Anyway, for whatever reason I ended up getting more and more stressed and upset and sending a string of more and more badly spelled texts (my spelling goes to pot if I am angry) to Mr SandDune complaining about it. But it is all done now and we are left with just the kitchen men, who are actually fine and just require cups of tea at regular intervals and do not insult anybody. (I pointedly did NOT offer the pest control man a cup of tea).

135SandDune
Sept. 17, 2021, 4:06 am

>131 charl08: Sounds a bit like the plot of a recent Robert Harris book? The Second Sleep? Yes I can see where you are coming from based on my description, but that hadn’t occurred to me before because actually the two books have a very different feel. Whereas The Second Sleep depicts a future medieval England where technology is unknown, Notes from the Burning Age depicts a future that is relatively advanced in its own way, just very different from our own. And it’s also much more political, as the European successor states battle against the growing power of the Brotherhood.

136SandDune
Bearbeitet: Sept. 17, 2021, 4:59 am

>132 Caroline_McElwee: Daisy’s head is pretty much OK now, although she still has her bald patch, which we hope will now grow back. Her eye is still a little bit weepy, but much better than it was.

>133 Familyhistorian: We did wonder about having the kitchen done when we were on holiday, but I am glad that we didn’t as there has been a lot of questions that needed answering, and it would have been quite difficult to do that remotely.

137katiekrug
Sept. 17, 2021, 5:02 am

>134 SandDune: - I think you showed admirable restraint, Rhian. I understand the stress of having lots of workmen in the house - we've been dealing with that recently, too. Thankfully, none have been insulting!

138lauralkeet
Sept. 17, 2021, 7:29 am

>137 katiekrug: What Katie said. That pest control guy was a jerk. I'm sorry the honeysuckle had to go, too. We have climbing hydrangea on one part of our house and I'd be very sad if someone told me we had to take it all down.

139BLBera
Bearbeitet: Sept. 17, 2021, 11:51 am

Your pest control guy sounds like a nightmare. I hope your week improves and you soon have the house to yourselves.

Poor Daisy.

Tales from the Burning Age sounds like one I would enjoy. Off to search for a copy.

140SandDune
Bearbeitet: Sept. 17, 2021, 3:20 pm

42. Sixteen ways to Defend a Walled City K.J. Parker ***1/2



Orhan is a milkface, one of a discriminated against minority in the Robur Empire, the most powerful empire in the world. With a combination of luck, expertise and a certain amount of slightly underhand practices, he has managed to claw his way up to the position of Colonel-in-Chief of the Engineers, an almost unheard of position for someone of his background.
‘Please note I didn’t come in on the military mail. As Colonel-in-Chief of the Engineers, I’m entitled; but, as a milkface (not supposed to call us that, everybody does, doesn’t bother me, I like milk) it’s accepted that I don’t, because of the distress I might cause to Imperials finding themselves banged up in a coach with me for sixteen hours a day. Not that they’d say anything, of course. The Robur pride themselves on their good manners, and, besides, calling a milkface a milkface is Conduct Prejudicial and can get you court-martialled. For the record, nobody’s ever faced charges on that score, which proves (doesn’t it) that Imperials aren’t biased or bigoted in any way. On the other hand, several dozen auxiliary officers have been tried and cashiered for calling an Imperial a blueskin, so you can see just how wicked and deserving of contempt my lot truly are.‘


But when a new and wholly unexpected enemy confronts the Robur and slaughters the garrison protecting the unnamed City that is their capital, Orhan finds to his surprise that he is now the ranking officer. Trouble is, Orhan isn’t really a soldier, he just builds really good bridges. But there’s an army of a hundred and ten thousand men camped outside the gates and no sign of any relief force, so somebody has to take charge. But to do that Orhan must upset a large number of the Robur hierarchy and must also decide where his loyalties truly lie …

This was a fun read which rattled along, and also dealt with some more serious topics along the way.

141richardderus
Sept. 17, 2021, 7:27 pm

>140 SandDune: ...and it's on sale on Kindles right now!

>134 SandDune: Oh.My.GAWD!

What a complete and utter pillock! I do so love the "blame the victim" mentality. (Not.) I'm glad you simply have some poorly spelled texts as a legacy of the entire encounter. Your memories will, I know, fade.

142SandDune
Sept. 18, 2021, 9:53 am

>141 richardderus: I know I’m unusually touchy at the moment as a result of having strangers in my house all the time, something I do not like at all.

143richardderus
Sept. 18, 2021, 3:45 pm

>142 SandDune: Rhian...you are Entitled to your feelings! The person's behavior was unacceptable. Your touchy-ness has nothing to do with that. The only problem with your momentary touchiness is how it affected *you* not in some fashion mitigating his awfulness.

No justification of your feeling the way you felt is needed.

144SandDune
Sept. 19, 2021, 7:33 am

>143 richardderus: Awhh! Thank you Richard. I am feeling better now.

145msf59
Sept. 19, 2021, 8:04 am

Happy Sunday, Rhian. Just a quick check in. I hope all is well and I see you are enjoying those books.

146magicians_nephew
Sept. 20, 2021, 3:40 pm

Running off to get my mitts on a copy of The Second Sleep

147SandDune
Bearbeitet: Sept. 20, 2021, 3:58 pm

43. Small Pleasures Claire Chambers ****



In the late 1950s Jean Swinney, an unmarried woman approaching forty, is working as a journalist on a local paper in the London suburbs. Her working life is usually filled with nothing more stimulating than writing columns on household hints or commentaries on the latest local weddings. Her home life is even less rewarding and stultifying, as the daughter left at home to look after a needy and ungrateful mother. All she can really hope for are the small pleasures snatched in the rare moments she has to herself:
‘Twice a week, on Tuesdays and Fridays between eight-thirty and nine, Jean was mistress of the house, free to do as she liked. She could listen to the wireless without her mother’s commentary, eat standing up in the kitchen, read in perfect silence or run naked through the rooms if she chose.

Of all the various liberties available, her favourite was to unfasten her girdle and lie at full stretch on the couch with an ashtray on her stomach and smoke two cigarettes back to back. There was no reason why she couldn’t do this in her mother’s presence — lying down in the day might prompt an enquiry about her health, no more — but it wasn’t nearly so enjoyable in company.’

But then, after an article on parthenogenesis appears in the local paper, a local woman called Gretchen Tillbury writes in to claim that her own ten year old daughter was the result of a virgin birth. Sent to investigate, an initially sceptical Jean is surprised to find that Gretchen’s story is actually very believable. Gretchen consents to medical tests of herself and her daughter to prove her claims, and as the tests proceed Jean finds herself more and more involved in the lives of the Tilbury family, with unexpected consequences.

Longlisted for the Women’s Prize in 2021, this is a beautifully written book that is so evocative of suburban life in the 1950s. I will be looking out for more by Claire Chambers.

148SandDune
Bearbeitet: Sept. 21, 2021, 3:23 am

I saw this on Twitter, and it is so true, and also completely illogical. That’s exactly what I do! The only difference is that if I estimate a small distance I will use feet or inches but if I actually measure it I will use centimetres.

149elkiedee
Sept. 21, 2021, 7:00 am

Since the success of Small Pleasures, her publisher seems to have reissued most of her books in matching new paperback covers, and some have been on offer as Kindle Daily Deals.

150lauralkeet
Sept. 21, 2021, 7:12 am

>148 SandDune: That's great, Rhian. I'll add one: the last time I drove a car in the UK, petrol was measured in litres when filling the tank but the fuel economy that appeared in the car's digital display was in miles per gallon.

Also, I always thought "tonnes" was just a British spelling of "tons" (like colour/color) and now I realize it's a separate metric measurement. I learn something new every day on LT.

151SandDune
Sept. 21, 2021, 7:35 am

>149 elkiedee: I’ve seen some of these - very pretty covers.

>150 lauralkeet: the last time I drove a car in the UK, petrol was measured in litres when filling the tank but the fuel economy that appeared in the car's digital display was in miles per gallon. That’s still the same, although I think you can change the digital settings on the car to do all metric if you want. But the weighing thing is completely right. I know my weight in stones and pounds (person) and I know Daisy’s weight in kilograms (not a person).

Tonnes and tons are different weights, but I have only a very vague idea of what amount either of them represents!

152PawsforThought
Sept. 21, 2021, 8:18 am

Oh, measurements! I've enjoyed this discussion, and as someone who's completely grown up with the metric system and Celsius scale, both the Imperial system and the Fahrenheit scale confuse me. When I lived in the UK, it was a constant source of confusion (and some irritation) to have to re-calculate everything in my head.
Sigh.

Tons and tonnes are just, well. Deeper sigh.
A tonne is a thousand kilograms. I think the Americans call it a metric ton - we call it a kiloton

Then there's ton. There are two. American tons are slightly less than a metric ton (900-some kilos), and British tons are slightly more than a metric ton (1000 and a bit kilos). Oh, joy!

153SandyAMcPherson
Sept. 21, 2021, 8:32 am

>151 SandDune: Tonnes versus tons ...
~ Just for some fun ~ and because I always forget this arcane weight business...

Both terms are a unit of weight,
1) Tonne = a Metric measurement.
2) Ton = an Imperial measurement (still widely used in the USA)

Each of these units has a different weight, ascribed by the International System of Units (SI); thus, (1) is 1,000 kilograms (≈2,204.6 pounds) and (2) represents 20 hundredweight.

(2) is complicated by being two different weights, depending on the country:
(2a) a short ton = 100 pounds (US)
(2b) a long ton = 112 pounds (UK)

You can read more detail here.

What had me laughing (OK it wasn't really funny, but still) was that there was mention of a 1999 NASA report with serious consequences from this confusing Imperial/Metric/USA-vs-UK weight measurement. The different agencies involved in a Mars orbiter contracted an engineering team (which used the English units of measurement), while the NASA’s team used the metric system. The results are now strewn across the surface of Mars.

154lauralkeet
Bearbeitet: Sept. 21, 2021, 8:38 am

>152 PawsforThought: and for the imperial-measurers among us, a ton is 2000 pounds and a tonne (or, yes, "metric ton") is 2204.623 pounds (so says Google).

Where temperature is concerned, I find it relatively easy to adapt to Celsius when I am traveling. I know what certain temperatures feel like ((e.g.; 10C, 20C, 30C) and can kind of "think in Celsius" when it comes to the weather.

Oh! And let's not forget cooking. Rhian & Paws: do you actually own measuring cups and spoons, or do you measure everything in grams using a scale? I do both depending on the recipe, but grew up using only cups & spoons.

ETA: thanks for that Sandy! We cross-posted. Love the NASA story.

155SandDune
Sept. 21, 2021, 10:35 am

>152 PawsforThought: I very much think in Celsius. I have a vague idea what temperatures are in Fahrenheit if it is hot, but very little if it is cold. Another anomaly - British papers used to quote temperatures in Fahrenheit if it was very hot, but in Celsius if it was very cold. I do know what a metric tonne is in terms of it being 1000 kg, it’s more that I just can’t visualise how much ‘stuff’ that is. And I had no idea how much an imperial ton is, although I would have known once. I remember coal being delivered in hundredweights when I was a child, but it’s not a measurement I’ve encountered since. Probably I would have known when I was very small: I remember being taught imperial measurements in primary school (which I left in 1971) but I’m positive in secondary school it was only metric.

>153 SandyAMcPherson: a Mars orbiter contracted an engineering team (which used the English units of measurement), while the NASA’s team used the metric system. I’ve heard of that before and it always seemed really strange. Even back in 1999 it seems unthinkable that a U.K. company would have measured scientific or engineering instruments in feet and inches. I’ve always assumed that what happened was that the U.K. company assumed that the U.S. people had supplied measurements in inches (because everyone knows that they use inches in the U.S.) and then reconverted the measurement to centimetres, whereas they were in centimetres already. A complete mess whatever.

>154 lauralkeet: I use measuring spoons for very small amounts regularly, up to a tablespoon (15ml). I do have some measuring cups but I can’t honestly say I’ve ever used them for measuring anything. I’ve only got them because they came in a nice set with other things and I thought maybe they would come in useful some day, but they haven’t done yet. I always weigh dried goods (in grammes); if I’m measuring liquids I’m quite likely to weigh those as well (the scales does millilitres) especially if it’s liquids added to something like a cake mixture. For something more rough and ready, such as adding liquid when making soup, I am quite likely to use a measuring jug.

156PawsforThought
Sept. 21, 2021, 10:56 am

>154 lauralkeet: We have measuring cups/spoons for anything that's measured by volume, which is almost everything. I hardly ever weigh anything for baking or cooking. Our measuring cups are 1 decilitre, 1 tablespoon (15 ml), 1 teaspoon (5 ml), 1 "spice measure" (1 ml). And litre measures and sometimes half-litres measures. Decilitre-measure have notches for 1/4, 1/2 and 3/4.

>155 SandDune: I know I've heard about the cold vs. hot temperatures before but I forgot about it. Thanks for reminding me - that's a fun tidbit.
A metric tonne is about the weight of a giraffe (or half of a white rhino). Is that helpful for picturing it? ;)

157drneutron
Sept. 21, 2021, 11:59 am

>155 SandDune: Interestingly, NASA's policy is to use metric units except that English units are allowed in some disciplines where it's customary and traditional. This mostly shows up in mechanical engineering (where bolts measured in fractions of inches are used, for example), and in propulsion (where, for instance, thrust is measured in pounds force). Nearly every NASA center and contractor now uses a combination on drawings of metric followed by English in parentheses - because of the incident you mentioned.

158richardderus
Sept. 21, 2021, 12:51 pm

A long ton, in the paper industry, is 2,040 16-ounce pounds, said the former book-production manager. And, more fun measurement trivia!, the long-dead US car company Studebaker probably lost its last hope of survival in 1952 when, for their centennial, they economised (misspelling intentional) by ordering steel from a metric-unit supplier...that didn't match the US-spec steel they needed to use for some bits. The result was an 18-month delay in production, a lot of quality issues, and oodles of bad publicity.

Weird what trivia night teaches one, isn't it.

>147 SandDune: That wasn't on my procurement radar, but it is now.

159SandDune
Bearbeitet: Sept. 21, 2021, 2:18 pm

>156 PawsforThought: A metric tonne is about the weight of a giraffe (or half of a white rhino). Actually that is very helpful. I can picture the size of a giraffe or rhino!

>157 drneutron: I looked up bolts on the website of the nearest DIY shop. They come in millimetres here. I think pretty much everything does.

>158 richardderus: I’m definitely going to be reading some more Clare Chambers but judging by the numbers of reviews on LT she hasn’t made much of a mark on the U.S. as yet.

160lauralkeet
Sept. 21, 2021, 2:09 pm

>155 SandDune:, >156 PawsforThought: I love the cooking measurements -- fascinating!
And yes, the giraffe/rhino references are helpful!

161SandDune
Sept. 21, 2021, 2:16 pm

Well the kitchen is progressing. We now have two functioning sinks, a hob, a dishwasher and washing machine that work and lots of cupboards (which even have all their own handles and of which only two are missing doors).

What we don’t have is an oven. We have a new more powerful cable for the oven that runs to the fuse box, but apparently our fuse box is ‘very old’. Not so old that it needs to be condemned outright, but so old that new parts for it are hard to source. And it needs a new part to attach the cable for the oven. At least that I what I have gained from the conversation with the electrician in which I only understood about 50% of what he is saying. He seems to think that he will be able to source the missing part from somewhere, but it might take a few days. But if he doesn’t then we will need a new fuse box. Joy!

162richardderus
Sept. 21, 2021, 2:24 pm

>161 SandDune: *doleful voice* get the new fuse box. It will never, ever be easier, less disruptive, or cheaper than it is now.

163SandDune
Sept. 21, 2021, 2:35 pm

Really? Oh dear. It’s in a cupboard so I don’t think that it would be that disruptive if it needs doing in the future. He did say it would be a problem if our electricity meter was more than 3m away from the fuse box as regulations have changed and fuse boxes have to be within 3m of the meter. But ours is very close - just of the other side of the same wall, so that should not be a problem.

I just want everyone to go away so I can play with the new kitchen and make biscuits and stuff.

164richardderus
Sept. 21, 2021, 2:38 pm

>163 SandDune: I hope it continues to function with its new, higher-demand add-on, and doesn't snapfizzlepoof during Yule lunch.

Which is what ours did.

165SandDune
Sept. 21, 2021, 3:06 pm

>164 richardderus: Oh no apparently it will be all compliant with what it needs to be compliant with and has its nice new 10 amp (watt?) cable that is actually more powerful than it needs to be.

166quondame
Bearbeitet: Sept. 21, 2021, 3:24 pm

>152 PawsforThought: Boggles. Giving an American ton in kilos, what! it's 2000 lbs. We don't do kilos.

>161 SandDune: We had to do a new fuse box for solar, and then it wasn't quite right so the new one had to be replaces. We'll see what happens if the batteries ever show.

167magicians_nephew
Sept. 24, 2021, 6:36 pm

>161 SandDune: Sorry for possible Brit-speak misunderstanding.

What's a "hob"?

In Dickens' time this would be an open fireplace or cooking fire?????

168SandDune
Sept. 25, 2021, 3:42 am

>167 magicians_nephew: “ What's a "hob"?” Hmmn, I’m usually quite good at American English (years and years of LT) but I struggled to think what else to call it! It’s the electrical appliance that fits into the work surface which the saucepans and frying pans (skillets?) go on top of for cooking. So you can get a gas hob or an induction hob or a standard electric hotplate hob.

When I was a kid or young adult in the U.K. I think the word ‘hob’ did have the meaning you say, as cookers came all in one with the cooking rings on top. But now they come with separate oven and hob, and it is always referred to as the hob.

169SandDune
Sept. 25, 2021, 3:46 am

>166 quondame: We are going to get a new fuse box, except apparently they are not called fuse boxes anymore, they are called ‘consumer units’.

170lauralkeet
Sept. 25, 2021, 7:40 am

>168 SandDune: We would call it a cooktop, especially when it's separate from the oven. If the oven and cooktop are all one unit, it's a range or stove.

171richardderus
Sept. 25, 2021, 12:06 pm

>170 lauralkeet: A hob is a burner. The work surface is...well...the work surface, the range or the stove.

>169 SandDune: Well! That's one fewer problem for 2023.

172lauralkeet
Sept. 25, 2021, 12:13 pm

>171 richardderus: I s'pose you're right, RD. When I've heard "hob" used in context I always thought it referred to the entire cooktop+burner arrangement. But on re-reading Rhian's explanation, I can see where I went wrong.

173SandyAMcPherson
Sept. 26, 2021, 10:54 pm

>169 SandDune: Up here in Canada, the electrical panel that traditionally had "fuses" is now called a circuit-breaker panel. In our house, when the power in one room goes off, (usually in the kitchen because too many high-drawing electrical appliances were 'on'), we still say, "Rats, I blew a fuse".

Our kids have very little idea of what we're really referring to and love to trot down to the panel with a flashlight (=torch) so they can flip the breaker. Yes, indeedy, the lighting in the basement room with the circuit breaker is on the same wiring system as the usual circuit that blows.

I love these English-language names for items common amongst us all in the dominant English-speaking parts of the world. Reflective of a rich history of names that diverge slightly in meaning from the centuries old derivation, torch being a great example.

174karenmarie
Sept. 29, 2021, 10:01 am

Hi Rhian!

>134 SandDune: Way too many people around at once, for sure. the kitchen men, who are actually fine and just require cups of tea at regular intervals We just had roofers at the house for 3 days and a team replacing all the gutters on the house for 2 days and they don’t require tea or anything else – they all bring their own drinks and lunches.

>148 SandDune: 👍

175SandDune
Bearbeitet: Sept. 30, 2021, 7:28 am

>170 lauralkeet: >171 richardderus: >172 lauralkeet: For the avoidance of all confusion, this is my hob:



We would call the whole thing the hob. In terms of the circle that actually heats up I would probably call it a ring. If it was a gas hob, then I might call it a gas burner, but equally I might call it a gas ring.

>173 SandyAMcPherson: Actually what we have currently is probably a circuit breaker panel as well. Occasionally, the switches flip up and then you have to flip them down again. You don’t actually change any fuses. Ours is in the (slightly more convenient) cupboard under the stairs. Talking about basements Jacob is currently living in a house with a cellar. I don’t think he has ever come across a house with a cellar before - he says it is very ‘spooky’.

>174 karenmarie: Oh it’s a well known fact that any British workmen have to be plied with tea (and preferably biscuits) on a frequent basis!

176lauralkeet
Sept. 30, 2021, 7:10 am

>175 SandDune: thanks for the hob photo and explanation, Rhian! That was fun bit of language exploration.

177SandDune
Sept. 30, 2021, 7:36 am

Well the kitchen is all finished (last day was Monday) and everything is back in place. Photos to follow. Apart from the kitchen table that is, which is still in the garage and needs a good wash before being allowed back in the house. We are very pleased with the kitchen generally, but it is so, so nice to have the house back to myself. In particular, it’s so nice not to have people asking me questions while (or even before) I’ve had breakfast! Mr SandDune doesn’t understand it (he’s a morning person) but Jacob was very sympathetic. When Jacob was at secondary school we used to have very comfortable breakfasts together where we would both sit and read in perfect silence. Occasionally, Mr SandDune would be around at the same time (usually he was out earlier) and would want to chat and then accuse us of being grumpy when we didn’t. But we were both perfectly happy! We were chatty enough at other meals, but breakfast is not made for chatting in my opinion.

178richardderus
Sept. 30, 2021, 10:40 am

>177 SandDune: Breakfast chatter is grounds for divorce, and also recognized as a justifiable homicide as one is in immediate and obvious danger of one's life.

For future reference.

I'm back to my normal life, a little heavier and a lot more cheerful.

179SandDune
Sept. 30, 2021, 2:17 pm

And here are some pictures of the kitchen:





I now have some shelves for my cookery books:



And part of the utility room:

180SandDune
Sept. 30, 2021, 2:25 pm

>178 richardderus: Well we’ve been married 33 years so it hasn’t caused divorce yet. But you think he’d have noticed by now as well!

181Caroline_McElwee
Sept. 30, 2021, 2:43 pm

>177 SandDune: Yes, no talking at breakfast, unless it has turned into brunch!

>179 SandDune: Very nice. Did it pass paws?

182katiekrug
Sept. 30, 2021, 3:00 pm

I love the backsplash, Rhian (is it called a backsplash in the UK? I now doubt every word I use... ;-))!

183SandDune
Sept. 30, 2021, 3:47 pm

>181 Caroline_McElwee: Exactly!

>182 katiekrug: Would you believe it - it’s the other way around - splashback.

184katiekrug
Sept. 30, 2021, 4:00 pm

185quondame
Bearbeitet: Sept. 30, 2021, 6:40 pm

>177 SandDune: >178 richardderus: Talking to the uncaffeinated is a crime. Best to wait on carb intake too.

>179 SandDune: Nice.

186richardderus
Sept. 30, 2021, 7:46 pm

>180 SandDune: The information is before you...do as you will with it. I think we need to start a Saintly Martyrs to the Precaffeinatedly Chatty Group, the Blessèd Rhian – tutelary spirit.

>179 SandDune: Oooh! It looks gorgeous! Daisy's photobomb is priceless. Is that an orange Le Creuset dutch oven?

187BLBera
Sept. 30, 2021, 9:16 pm

Your kitchen is beautiful, Rhian. I love the splashback and the cabinets.

188SandDune
Okt. 1, 2021, 3:34 am

>185 quondame: >186 richardderus: Mr SandDune has given up caffeine, so he does not appreciate its importance!

>186 richardderus: It is an orange Le Creuset casserole dish! We don’t use the term ‘Dutch Oven’ at all. (Kitchen ware seems to be full of linguistic differences.) That’s not new though. I think we had that for a wedding present.

>187 BLBera: Thank you.

189humouress
Okt. 1, 2021, 4:35 am

Hi Rhian; I'm sorry I haven't been by for a while.

>179 SandDune: Your kitchen looks lovely! It's a very similar layout to my mum's old kitchen (from when I was around the same age that my eldest is now) except that the cupboards continued all the way to the right hand side wall; her oven was below her hob and her fridge was in the utility room. So it looks quite familiar ;0)

What did you do with your corner cupboards? We plan to redo our kitchen next year, too, since it's been annoying me since we moved in. But I've looked around a bit and I can't find cupboards in Singapore that are built for corners; they just fit a super long cupboard with a door at one end so it's really hard and awkward to reach the back.

I empathise about having strangers in the house although I've got more used to it over the years since my husband isn't a DIYer and will even get people in to change light bulbs (or he'll get the handyman to do it if they're in for something else). When we bought our house we had it renovated, which naturally overran, so we had people still painting fences and so on when we finally moved in but since then, we always seem to have something going on, even if it's only people in to service the air-conditioners. My husband is also a breakfast chatterer though breakfast is the time I read the newspaper (though it's only the 'life' section, so it's no great loss, I suppose).

I suspect that not liking strangers in the house may be a large part of your mum's reluctance, too. I hope you manage to find some compromise for her. I'm glad Daisy's better. My son was threatening to put a cone on Jasper because has a skin issue and tends to scratch or lick his fur off. Whoever heard of a bald golden retriever? (Possibly the same entity who forgot to tell Jasper that retrievers are water dogs.)

190PawsforThought
Okt. 1, 2021, 4:55 am

The kitchen looks great, and I love the tiles, Rhian! In fact, a few months ago I bookmarked a page that sells tiles that are the same pattern but with inverted colours. When I buy a place, I'm definitely getting them. Moroccan style tiles are so beautiful.

191lauralkeet
Okt. 1, 2021, 7:15 am

That's a gorgeous kitchen, Rhian. The backsplash-splashback tile is especially nice.

192SandDune
Bearbeitet: Okt. 1, 2021, 8:36 am

>189 humouress: It's a very similar layout to my mum's old kitchen To be honest it’s a fairly similar layout to our old kitchen, at least in terms of where the rows of cupboards and appliances actually are. The major difference is that we have brought the tumble dryer inside from the garage. When we moved into this house it had a space in the utility room for a tumble dryer and washing machine, but we had a washer-dryer at the time, so we put a tall food cupboard where the tumble dryer space was. Now, by tightening everything up and reducing the width of the cupboard under the sink, they’ve managed to fit in the tumble dryer AND the tall food cupboard.

they just fit a super long cupboard with a door at one end so it's really hard and awkward to reach the back. That’s what we used to have! They are a pain. We’ve just gone for a basic corner cupboard where the doors open out on both sides of the corner as that seemed the arrangement that actually held most stuff. We did look at some where the shelves swung out, but what you gained in convenience you seemed to lose in storage space. This is what we have:



I hope you manage to find some compromise for her. Hopefully! One of the things that I wanted the carers to do last week was to take my Mum to the opticians to collect her new glasses. Well she got out of that one by walking there on her own first! Admittedly it’s not very far but she’s really shouldn’t be doing that alone.

193SandDune
Okt. 1, 2021, 8:30 am

>190 PawsforThought: >191 lauralkeet: Thankyou! I always really like tiles. Our colours were slightly constrained as we weren’t changing the floor tiles (they have underfloor heating and go right through into the hall so that would be a big job), but I like the way it’s turned out. I need some slightly different accessories though, that go with the new look.

194MickyFine
Okt. 1, 2021, 3:52 pm

I'm yet another admirer of your backsplash/splashback tiles, Rhian. It always takes my brain a moment to adjust to the more common arrangement in Britain of the washing machine (and dryer) being in the kitchen. I don't think I've ever encountered a set up like that on this side of the pond - even in apartments. I wonder how those building conventions diverged?

195quondame
Okt. 1, 2021, 4:34 pm

>192 SandDune: Back in the kitchen of my childhood I was the one sent to tack the shelf paper into those hard to reach corners - I would have loved those doors.

196PaulCranswick
Okt. 1, 2021, 11:44 pm

>179 SandDune: For someone not normally allowed in close proximity to them, I do have a fondness for kitchens and yours looks splendid now, Rhian.

Ours growing up was extremely function and my mum was a tremendous, if unfussy cook. One thing we did have was a hole cut into the wall operating as a serving hatch to the dining room which is not seen too much these days but was very practical.

In Malaysia we have essentially two kitchens what they call a wet kitchen and a dry kitchen. The former is used for the heavy cooking and the latter for more genteel tasks. The idea is that it keeps the cooking smells out of the living area. Not always an advantage actually as Hani's cooking usually smells great but I do recall her sister once deciding to cook curried chicken livers and soliciting complaints from the neighbours for the unappetising odours given off.

You may be pleased to know that this is the 1,000 post on your threads in 2021.

197humouress
Okt. 2, 2021, 4:01 am

>192 SandDune: Ah! Thanks for the photo. (My mum's had a bi-folding door.) I think as long as I can convince someone to give me the L-shaped shelves, I can work out the doors.

Oh dear. Obviously your mum's fierce independence is another factor. Maybe one of her friends who helps her out currently could take along a 'friend' (carer in disguise) and gradually get your mum used to them? Just reaching for solutions.

>196 PaulCranswick: I noticed that was another difference between Rhian's and my mum's kitchen; we had a hatch through to the formal dining room - otherwise we'd have had to truck dishes through the entrance hall and around the corner through the sitting room and into the dining room when my parents entertained.

If you have any good ideas for wet and dry kitchen layouts, I'd appreciate them Paul. When we had our house renovated it was suggested but I wasn't used to the concept. I regret it now because cooking smells, like frying bacon, get pulled from the kitchen, up the stairwell and into the bedrooms where they can hang around for a while.

198SandDune
Okt. 2, 2021, 10:45 am

>194 MickyFine: to adjust to the more common arrangement in Britain of the washing machine (and dryer) being in the kitchen. Strictly speaking, ours is in our utility room, although that is pretty much an extension of the kitchen to be honest, although there is a door separating them. I think it’s very much a matter of where people are used to having them. To me (as a British person) having the washing machine anywhere other than a kitchen or utility room is just … well … odd! To someone from North America having the washing machine in the kitchen is just odd as well.

There is the fact the British houses don’t have basements, but even if they did I wouldn’t want to have a washing machine in it as then I would need to carry everything up and down stairs. There are regulations about having plug in appliances in the bathroom, but if people really wanted washing machines there it is possible to put them there with a waterproof plug. I wonder if one difference is that it’s more common to dry clothes outside in the U.K.? Having a washing machine near the back door is useful then as the clothes can be pegged straight out.

>195 quondame: It is a lot easier to reach the back of the cupboard now.

199SandDune
Okt. 2, 2021, 11:00 am

>196 PaulCranswick: When I was growing up the older members of the family referred to the room where the sink was as the scullery. In the South Wales terraced house’s of the late nineteenth century there was a fairly standard layout with the scullery being a pretty small room and would have been where washing and any grubby activities were carried out. Then the kitchen was the room next to it where the cooking was done on a coal range. By the time I was a child the ‘scullery’ was morphing into the kitchen as we know it, but even in the 1960s my grandmother would still bake in the oven in the kitchen, although by this time she also had a cooker in what she referred to as the scullery.

>196 PaulCranswick: >197 humouress: Serving hatches seemed to have been a real thing in the 1960s and 1970s. I don’t think I’ve seen any on any houses built since that date. We were vaguely looking at new houses when we were thinking of moving, and everything these days has an open plan kitchen-diner.

200richardderus
Okt. 2, 2021, 11:05 am

>198 SandDune: There's also the fact that North American houses are routinely very much larger than British houses. We're not trying to save space in general. I was *gobsmacked* when I learned that there were combination washer-and-dryer units. That seems like asking for trouble to me.

>188 SandDune: Well, pardon I! :-P

201SandDune
Okt. 2, 2021, 11:11 am

>200 richardderus: To be honest the separate dryers are better. As I said we used to have a washer dryer, but it wouldn’t dry the same volume. But you can leave them go straight through from washing to drying which can be handy. Why are they called Dutch ovens though? In what way are they Dutch? (Or an oven, come to that?).

202SandDune
Bearbeitet: Okt. 2, 2021, 2:10 pm

43. The House by the Lake Thomas Harding ***



In the Nazi Germany of the 1930’s Thomas Harding’s Jewish great-grandparents were forced to abandon their summer house on the shores of Groß Glienicke Lake not far from Berlin. But despite the years that had passed the house had not been forgotten:

I had been told about the lake house, or “Glienicke”, all my life. It had been an obsession for my grandmother, Elsie, who spoke about it with wonder, evoking a time when life had been easy, fun and simple. It had been, she said, her soul place.

My family, the Alexander’s, had flourished in the liberal years of 1920s Berlin. Affluent cosmopolitan Jews, theirs had been the values of Germany: they worked hard and enjoyed themselves, attending the latest exhibitions, plays, concerts, and taking walks in the surrounding countryside. As soon as they could afford it, they had built themselves a little wooden lake house, a symbol of their success.


In this book Harding attempts to recreate the history of the house by the lake, and with it a history of Germany in the twentieth century. Built on land purchased by a would-be German aristocrat at the beginning of the twentieth century, the house formed part of a growing summer community of wealthy Berliners in the 1920s and 1930s, many of whom were Jewish and were driven out as the Nazi persecution of the Jews became more and more intense. After the Second World War the house was on the very frontier between East and West Berlin: for many years a lake house in name only, as the Berlin Wall ran between the house and the lake. When Thomas Harding first sees the house it had been empty for over a decade and due for demolition, but he sees potential for its restoration …

I feel I should have enjoyed this book more than I did. Especially in the second half of the book, I found it quite difficult to distinguish the various inhabitants of the house. (I listened to it on Audible: I’ve since discovered the print version has maps and family trees which would have been useful). And the author isn’t great at evoking the feelings of people who were frequently living through frightening and violent times. So an OK read, but could have been better.

203elkiedee
Okt. 2, 2021, 12:38 pm

Actually a lot of houses here do have basements but their usefulness and suitability for different purposes vary a lot. Many of the best homes with basements were sort of split level - for example my grandparents' house in Oxford had a kitchen with a back door opening into a large garden, with a canal at the bottom of the garden where my mum had a near death experience, and the railway also ran past - I can remember hearing and seeing the trains at night. The dining room was also in the basement, and by the 1970s and 1980s when I was a child/teenager it had also become the TV room, with no other TVs in the house. I'm trying to remember where the washing machine actually was - the kitchen would have been handy for taking washing out to the garden but indoor drying space was a lot of stairs away at the top of the house.

My first childhood home had a basement kitchen which was large enough to eat in, whereas a nearby house which was rather like a student house where several family friends lived, only most of the students had long since finished studying and were early 30s, just had a tiny kitchen off the sitting room. I do wonder how my mum dealt with laundry since I think we had a twin tub there - we got the kind of washing machine I now take for granted - in the kitchen, by the back door which opened into the garden, when we moved in 1979 - between my baby brother's nappy days and my sister's birth.

I now have a washing machine in my small kitchen which is just off the living room, and can't imagine where else it would go in this house, but one of my aunts has a kind of mezzanine floor in her house which contains a bathroom (including a toilet), a shower room, and a room with a second toilet and washbasin and the washing machine.

204quondame
Okt. 2, 2021, 2:09 pm

>198 SandDune: Good. The paper we used was treated with bug killer and the joke was that they'd find me dead in the corner with my limbs curled up. My family's sense of humor often went weird around me.

205SandDune
Bearbeitet: Okt. 2, 2021, 2:10 pm

44. Witness for the Dead Katherine Addison ***1/2



Witness for the Dead is set in the same world as The Goblin Emperor. Not a sequel though, the book takes one of the more minor characters from the earlier book, Thara Celehar, and follows him as he goes about his work as a witness for the dead. Someone who, in other words, can communicate, albeit in a limited fashion, with people recently dead, and in doing so can cast light on what (or who) killed them. And his most pressing case is the body of a young woman found in the canal:

The woman no longer knew her name, nor who had wanted her dead, nor why. But she did remember her death. She had been alive when the water slammed the breath from her body. She remembered the fall from the dock, though she had been more pushed than fallen and more thrown than pushed. She remembered the cold dark water, the way her panicked gasps for air had echoed off the bricks.
She hadn’t known how to swim. Despite the lake and the canal and the river, most Amaleisei didn’t.
I felt the memory of her clothes dragging her down, heavy velvet getting heavier very quickly. She tried to scream for help, but got a mouthful of foul-tasting water, and before she even had time to realize she was going to die, there was a sudden crushing agony deep into her head and then nothing.
She had not drowned after all.


Other cases vie for Celehar’s attention: a man who is convinced that his sister and her unborn child have been killed by her husband; a question of a fraudulent will; and a nasty case of a ghoul in an outlying district. And as well as his work, Celahar must deal with the politics of the religious leaders of the city of Amaro, most of whom feel that he has been foisted on them against their will.

It’s all good fun but it didn’t engage me quite as much as The Goblin Emperor, which I loved, possibly because I’m not so keen on whodunnits, but also because it’s missing the very appealing character of the Goblin Emperor himself. But still well worth reading and I’ll look out for more books by Katherine Addison.

206SandDune
Okt. 2, 2021, 2:20 pm

>203 elkiedee: Actually a lot of houses here do have basements Maybe it depends where you live? The only person I have ever known who has had a house with a basement was my sister who at one stage lived in a Georgian townhouse dating from about 1770. And that was a cellar rather than a basement (albeit a very large cellar) so not anything that you would have wanted to use as a proper room. I literally cannot think of anyone else whose house I have ever been in who has had a basement. I imagine they are found more in older city townhouses where there has been more pressure on space. But I have never lived anywhere like that. They certainly aren’t common where we live now.

207SandDune
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44. All the Lonely People Mike Gayle****



Eighty-four year old Hubert Bird, part of the Windrush generation, has three great friends - Dotty and Dennis and Harvey - and they do almost everything together. At least that’s what he tells his daughter in Australia on her weekly phone calls. But Hubert is lying and Dotty and Dennis and Harvey don’t actually exist: the truth is that Hubert has completely withdrawn from the world and goes days without speaking to anyone except his cat. But when his daughter announces that she is coming home to visit, Hubert feels compelled to find some real friends , something that is easier said that done…

‘And then it hit him. His daughter was undoubtedly going to be angry once she discovered that he’d been lying to her about Dotty, Dennis and Harvey. So what if in their place he presented his old friends? Gus and the Red Lion crowd. Surely she wouldn’t be so angry once he’d explained that he’d gone to the effort of reconnecting with them just to please her?’


All the Lonely People alternates between Hubert’s life as a lonely octogenarian and his earlier life as a young man recently arrived in London from Jamaica, when he came face to face with the racism of England in the 1950s and 60s.

I picked up All the Lonely People after reading this article in The Guardian ( Mike Gayle had just been awarded the 2021 Outstanding Achievement award by the Romantic Novelists Association, the first time that this award had ever been awarded to a man or a person of colour):
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/mar/10/they-were-treated-terribly-why-lad...

Although this wasn’t my usual type of book I enjoyed it a lot and to be honest was nearly in tears by the end. So definitely recommended, and I’ll be looking out for more of Mike Gayle’s books.

208humouress
Bearbeitet: Okt. 3, 2021, 4:28 am

>202 SandDune: I'm more interested in the renovation/ restoration of the house, oddly enough.

>204 quondame: Hmm. I wonder why? ;0)

209charl08
Bearbeitet: Okt. 3, 2021, 5:02 am

>207 SandDune: Sounds good Rhian, I'll have a look for this one.

The only house I've ever lived in with an underground space was in a terrace house in Walthamstow. The stairs were super steep and we had a mouse problem. (The washer was in the kitchen!) Given how much the area has gentrified since, I wouldn't be surprised if it was now a stand alone flat.

210PaulCranswick
Okt. 3, 2021, 5:25 am

>197 humouress: Let me look back at some of the floor plans of buildings I have worked on here, Nina. There may be something that helps.

>198 SandDune: & >199 SandDune: I've never lived in a house with a basement but I do know a few people who do. I think it is a regional and planning thing. One of my best friends who lives in Leominster (my base for raids on nearby Hay) has a basement but his three young kids are prohibited from going anywhere near it!

Both of my maternal aunties used to cook on coal ranges when I was young although the younger of the two, God bless her, could spoil good ingredients however you asked her to try and cook with them!

211elkiedee
Okt. 3, 2021, 6:27 am

I stayed in a basement flat in Dalston when for a couple of weeks when we were waiting to move into this house. It was November and it was really cold, with only one source of heat. But there are lots of basement flats in some areas. I think they're more common where they're built on a slope, even a slight one. I've done a bit of doorknocking in various areas between 2015 and 2019 and hope to get back to it soon, and the centre of Croydon seemed to have a load of basement properties, but there are quite a few in the hilly bits of this area as well.

I also rented a room in a shared house which was a basement room. It looked really interesting and cosy, but actually living in it wasn't a great expeirience. It ended with me being flooded out by a leak from the kitchen directly above, realising how many respiratory infections I'd been suffering from in my 9 or so months, and saying I'd like to stay in the smaller first floor room which I'd been moved to and which was between tenants. In the end I had to move out but I think it was no bad thing (not wanting to live in a basement wasn't the only issue but it was held against me).

212elkiedee
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I stayed in a basement flat in Dalston when for a couple of weeks when we were waiting to move into this house. It was November and it was really cold, with only one source of heat. But there are lots of basement flats in some areas. I think they're more common where they're built on a slope, even a slight one. I've done a bit of doorknocking in various areas between 2015 and 2019 and hope to get back to it soon, and the centre of Croydon seemed to have a load of basement properties, but there are quite a few in the hilly bits of this area as well.

I also rented a room in a shared house which was a basement room. It looked really interesting and cosy, but actually living in it wasn't a great expeirience. It ended with me being flooded out by a leak from the kitchen directly above, realising how many respiratory infections I'd been suffering from in my 9 or so months, and saying I'd like to stay in the smaller first floor room which I'd been moved to and which was between tenants. In the end I had to move out but I think it was no bad thing (not wanting to live in a basement wasn't the only issue but it was held against me).

I think split level basements which are ground floor on one side with air and light from outside the property are better than others.

Oh, and wealthy homeowners here have started to want to dig out under their homes to build playrooms, home cinemas, swimming pools, whatever. Planning permission can get controversial, the neighbours can get unhappy - and I wouldn't be keen if it started here - there can be issues of ownership of underground spaces. In my last job I used to get land registry notices about this, and have to ask Highways or Housing if they wanted to. Jonathan Coe has satirised this in his novel Number 11.

213SandyAMcPherson
Okt. 3, 2021, 11:27 am

>177 SandDune: breakfast is not made for chatting in my opinion. Got that right! I'm also not a perky-morning-person. How is it that those larks end up marrying us Not-a-Morning-Person types?

>179 SandDune: Looks brilliant! I adore that slimline refrigerator. All fridge and no freezer? What brand sells such a sensible appliance?

>186 richardderus: I like RD's idea: "Saintly Martyrs to the Precaffeinatedly Chatty Group"
except I didn't precisely understand what 'Precaffeinatedly' meant. I even have had lots of coffee this morning so I can't blame my lack of caffeine intake.

214alcottacre
Okt. 3, 2021, 11:29 am

Thanks for stopping by my thread, Rhian. Have a wonderful Sunday!

215SandyAMcPherson
Okt. 3, 2021, 11:30 am

>205 SandDune: This echoes my opinion on TWfTD as well. I keep hoping the author will continue the series with Maia as the MC.

216richardderus
Okt. 3, 2021, 12:01 pm

>207 SandDune: Sounds like a must-find to me. (But it's #45, isn't it?)

Basements are de rigueur here on Long Island. This is a giant glacial moraine, though, only about 10,000 years old. Where I lived in Texas was an ancient coral reef system that died about 70 million years ago, so basements were largely unknown outside major construction projects that blasted them out to hold up multi-story buildings. Geology is the usual determinant of the existence of basements, I think.

217BLBera
Okt. 3, 2021, 12:08 pm

>207 SandDune: This one does sound good, Rhian.

218SandDune
Bearbeitet: Okt. 3, 2021, 2:03 pm

>208 humouress: If you’re interested in the renovation of the house I think you’d be disappointed! There was only about a page and a half covering that in the whole book.

>209 charl08: >210 PaulCranswick: >211 elkiedee: >216 richardderus: I think perhaps I’ve never come across basements because I’ve never lived in the type of area where there are larger (older) city houses which are converted into flats. I’ve not lived in larger cities much - well a few years in Sheffield when I was at university - and so that might make the difference. And digging out the basement must be harder work if you’re doing it on rock?

219SandDune
Okt. 3, 2021, 2:28 pm

>210 PaulCranswick: My grandma wasn’t an ambitious cook but she could turn out a mean apple tart on her range (or any other sort of tart come to that).

>213 SandyAMcPherson: Our fridge is a Bosch. A fridge without a freezer isn’t that uncommon here, the assumption being that you have a separate freezer. As I said previously, I would have liked a tall fridge with a very small freezer compartment, but they don’t seem to come like that. Actually, in the U.K. it isn’t a ‘slimline’ fridge, it’s a standard width (60cm). The wider ones are called ‘American style fridges’.

>214 alcottacre: Thanks Stasia! You too!

220SandDune
Okt. 3, 2021, 2:33 pm

>215 SandyAMcPherson: Maia was such a lovely character, wasn’t he? I think The Goblin Emperor was a difficult act to follow.

>216 richardderus: Thinking about it, where I grew up was pretty solid limestone. It’s going to be much more difficult to built a basement in that than in London clay.

>207 SandDune: It was well worth a read. I’m definitely going to be liking out for some more by Mike Gayle.

221richardderus
Okt. 3, 2021, 2:35 pm

>220 SandDune: Exactly...plus the extra stability of a well-reinforced basement is only going to enhance life in a house built on clay or sandy loam, like my island is made of.

222SandDune
Okt. 3, 2021, 3:04 pm

>221 richardderus: But I’ve always assumed that basements have spiders, which I’m not convinced is a good thing.

223richardderus
Okt. 3, 2021, 4:56 pm

>222 SandDune: So do attics and garages and fuse-boxes and dark corners and...well, let's just say that the entire planet is nothing but a spider breeding ground.

224SandDune
Okt. 3, 2021, 5:30 pm

>223 richardderus: I never go in the attic. And I only go in the garage in daylight if possible - so I can see them coming if they decide to rush at me.

225quondame
Okt. 3, 2021, 7:16 pm

>216 richardderus: Weather. Often basements are located in climates where the winter freezing can damage plumbing and basements help with that. Or that's what us southern Californian's are told. My grandparents WI house had a basement as did my sister's CT house and my brother's MA, & DC houses. My other brother's MD houses as well, but one of those was the walk outside in the back sort.

226SandDune
Okt. 4, 2021, 3:42 am

>225 quondame: When we first moved to the town where we lived now we used to rent an older house that was built in about 1890 and was very poorly insulated. The people who rented it after us (who were from a warmer part of France) didn’t realise that they needed to leave the heating on low when they were away for several weeks over Christmas. The pipes froze and then burst and then melted and were pouring water out for a week or so before the tenants returned. There were thousands of pounds worth of damage. In our current house, which is better insulated, I think that is probably unlikely, even if we didn’t leave the heating on, as it never gets much below zero (°C) here. Although I still wouldn’t risk it.

227quondame
Okt. 4, 2021, 4:05 pm

>226 SandDune: At a winter camp in the local mountains I've attended we are required to leave taps dripping during the night. No basements in the cabins - or the main lodge for that matter.

228richardderus
Okt. 4, 2021, 7:35 pm

>227 quondame: --> >225 quondame: Weather plays a role, but the argument against that is the *urgent* need for cool food-storage spaces and tornado protection in those parts of the country. Not building over a big ol' hole in the ground makes little sense unless there's some countervailing force making its many benefits less appealing. Like y'all's earthquakes or the need to blast through tough rock.

And the nightmare of burst pipes is the reason I *still* leave faucets slightly a-drip! *shudder*

>224 SandDune: I have this vision of thousands of spiders putting their eye makeup on all eight eyes, fitting all eight feet into track shoes, and shrieking "GET HER, GIRLS!!" as the door hesitantly opens on your night-darkened garage...

229magicians_nephew
Okt. 5, 2021, 10:38 am

Some of our Netherlander LTers may want to weigh in on this.

A 'Dutch oven' is called a braadpan in the Netherlands, which roughly translates as a frying or roasting pan.

My mother said that a Dutch oven was a poor or simple oven and said it was because the Dutch were cheapskates.
(also see "Dutch Uncle" and "Dutch Courage")

Take your pick

230SandDune
Okt. 8, 2021, 8:39 am

>227 quondame: >228 richardderus: It has honestly never occurred to me that a tap dripping will stop it freezing. But then I’ve never lived anywhere where a pipe has actually frozen (at least not when I’ve been living in the house).

>228 richardderus: That very much ties up with my ideas of the spiders to be honest! I’m fine with pretty much any other form of wildlife - bats, snakes, mice are all fine - it’s really just the spiders. Mr SandDune jokes that there is a special species of “Welshus carnivorus” spiders in our garage that prey exclusively on small Welsh women.

>225 quondame: It’s funny but I think a lot of people in the U.K. would have no ideas what was meant by a Dutch oven. I think most people would associate a cast-iron casserole dish with France, rather than the Netherlands, as Le Creuset is the best known make.

231PawsforThought
Okt. 8, 2021, 8:43 am

I've experienced pipes freezing, despite having the tap dripping. If it's cold enough, and the pipes aren't insulated well tap drips don't help.
When we leave our summer house for the winter we not only turn the taps off at the well (we have a communal well with the rest of the road), but also blow through the pipes with air to remove any remaining water. Obviously doesn't work if you need to use the taps, though...

232richardderus
Okt. 8, 2021, 11:14 am

>230 SandDune: I think "dutch" in "dutch oven" comes from Deutsch, as in the German settlers of the US and the Hessians who helped the US in its battles for "freedom" from the UK. (Unless, of course, one was Black or First Nations....) This dingdongs around my brain but honestly I can't be arsed to follow up.

Your attitude towards spiders echos my father's. I'm that way about sharks, to my (surfer-boy) Young Gentleman Caller's disgust. Did you know that Great White sharks are possessed of an unconquerable desire to eat my flesh, are able to teleport across miles and obstacles when their unique and infallible Richarddar detects my presence in the ocean, and they will stop at nothing to achieve the single, burning aim of the entire species' existence: Eating me slowly and painfully?

Neither did Rob. Shocking how effective the Great White Shark PR Conspiracy™ has been in hiding these facts from public scrutiny.

233Whisper1
Okt. 8, 2021, 11:25 am

Rhian, thank you for sharing the images of your Scotland vacation! I never realized how very beautiful Scotland is.

234SandDune
Okt. 8, 2021, 2:01 pm

>232 richardderus: Sharks have never worried me either. It’s sort of out of sight, out of mind with them.

>233 Whisper1: Oh, Scotland can be really beautiful. One of my absolute favourite places.

235ArlieS
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>93 quondame: Very belated - yes, there is such an app in California, but so far it's never pinged me.

107 Oh dear! I hope the bird mites were dealt with successfully.

236PaulCranswick
Okt. 14, 2021, 5:42 am

>232 richardderus: & >234 SandDune: Rats and snakes are mine, but sharks would probably intrude upon my thinking if I was doing the breaststroke off the coasts of Perth or Durban.

237SandDune
Bearbeitet: Okt. 14, 2021, 2:19 pm

>235 ArlieS: Yes the mites are all gone now thanks.

>236 PaulCranswick: I’m OK with rats (wouldn’t want wild them in the house obviously). It’s quite telling that when we went on a tour of the Lancaster campus Jacob included the bushes where the rats’ nest was, knowing I would be reasonably interested. And of all the small animal pets to have, I’ve always thought that rats sound most interesting. (Not with Daisy though, I think she’d develop her latent predator instincts.) And I actually like snakes …
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