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2022 CATWoman Planning Thread

1sallylou61
Bearbeitet: Jan. 5, 6:38pm

CATWoman wiki: https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/CATWoman_2022

2022 CATWoman Schedule

January -- sallylou61 -- Biography/autobiography/memoir by women -- thread at https://www.librarything.com/topic/337468
February -- Pamelad -- Women in Translation (Women authors and/or translators)
March -- NinieB -- Women Pioneers
April -- Jackie_K -- Women of Color
May -- Pamelad -- Classics by Women
June -- sallylou61 -- Books set in cities or about cities by women
July -- LibraryCin -- Women in Science
August -- susanna.fraser -- Children's/YA/Graphic Novels.
September -- DeltaQueen -- Women during War
October -- Robertgreaves -- Women and Crime
November --DeltaQueen -- Issues as seen through women's eyes
December -- lsh63 -- Prize Winner by a Woman

Newly suggested topics in 2021:
Influential/inspirational women
Poetry by women
Women who used male pen names
Women leaders in such fields as government, elected or appointed; CEOs of companies, etc.
Women in traditionally male jobs/fields
A book by a woman first published this century
A prize winner by a woman -- topic for December
A woman writer from your own country
Women during war: either as nurses, pilots, fighting, etc. or on the home front -- topic for September
Women pioneers: moving to unsettled land or in a particular field such as flying -- topic for March
Women in the home
Women in science -- topic for July
Women and Crime -- topic for October
Women in translation: Either works by women translated from other languages or works translated by women -- topic for February
Women in aviation
Issues as seen through the eyes of a woman (either fiction or non-fiction) such mental health, marriage, divorce, race, aging, religion, dealing with death, illness, rape, bullying etc. -- topic for November
Women who travel - with non-fiction as a travelogue or a story about women on a journey be it as a pioneer, a war bride, a fun road trip
Books Set in Cities, written by women -- topic for June
Series Written by Women

Topics from the 2017 WomanCAT:
Classics by women -- topic for May
Debut books
Genres
Biography/autobiography/memoir -- topic for January
Women in the arts
Professional women
Women of color -- topic for April
Nonfiction or historical fiction
Children's/YA/Graphic novels -- topic for August
Regional reading
LGBT/Feminist writing
Modern (post-1960) novels by women

2lowelibrary
Nov. 7, 2021, 9:07pm

How about Influential/inspirational women
Poetry by women
Women who used male pen names

3LibraryCin
Nov. 7, 2021, 9:45pm

Is this too specific:

Women in traditionally male jobs/fields

(Obviously that would be books about those women.)

4sallylou61
Nov. 7, 2021, 10:19pm

>3 LibraryCin: No. Sounds good. Thanks for suggesting it.

5pamelad
Nov. 8, 2021, 12:59am

A book first published this century
A prize winner
A woman writer from your own country

6sallylou61
Nov. 8, 2021, 9:30am

>5 pamelad:. Thanks for the suggestions. However, did you mean this for AuthorCAT or CATWoman?

7pamelad
Bearbeitet: Nov. 8, 2021, 2:59pm

>6 sallylou61: The CATWoman thread. Why do you ask?

Is this CAT for books about women rather than by women?

8sallylou61
Bearbeitet: Nov. 8, 2021, 3:19pm

>7 pamelad: This is both about and by women. Ideally, all the books about women should be written by women since men and women would probably have very different views about the topic. However, we also have an AuthorCAT for 2022, and I'm assuming, maybe incorrectly, that we do not want to have much if any duplication between the two CATs. Your suggested topics sounded to me more like AuthorCAT topics. However, I listed them in the list of suggestions.

9pamelad
Nov. 8, 2021, 3:53pm

>8 sallylou61: Thanks. If there's duplication you can weed it out later.

10sallylou61
Nov. 9, 2021, 1:37pm

Initially, I may have been stressing non-author topics too much. Judy of AuthorCAT and I have discussed our two CATS, and decided, although they are similar, it's fine to feature authors in CATWoman. People might have voted for it thinking it was more about writing by women.

11pamelad
Nov. 9, 2021, 5:12pm

>10 sallylou61: That's good. I'd voted for it assuming it was about writing by women.

>3 LibraryCin: Could you give some examples?

12Robertgreaves
Nov. 9, 2021, 8:47pm

1)Perhaps it would come under women in traditionally male fields, but how about women criminals?

2) Women in translation? Either works by women translated from other languages or works translated by women?

13LibraryCin
Bearbeitet: Nov. 9, 2021, 9:16pm

>11 pamelad: I'm not sure how many books are on these topics, but women mechanics (or women in trades). I was also thinking women in the military. I'm sure there are more, but those are what I can think of off the top of my head. Maybe women farmers, as another option?

ETA: women pilots? There are probably lots more that people can think of.

ETA: >12 Robertgreaves: To include women criminals... is there a way we could rename it? I like adding it in as another option.

14sallylou61
Nov. 9, 2021, 11:13pm

>12 Robertgreaves:, >13 LibraryCin: What about women and crime if we do not want to use women criminals?
For women pilots, I had them listed under both women during war and women pioneers (although we could certainly have women pilots as a separate category)
On second thought instead of using women pilots, why don't we use women in aviation (which would cover women navigators, mechanics, etc.

Thanks for these suggestions. Let's keep them coming -- and sign up for a topic you especially like.

15pamelad
Nov. 10, 2021, 12:09am

Could I do Women and Crime in February?

Women writers of crime fiction, true crime and other crime-related topics e.g forensic medicine.

16sallylou61
Nov. 10, 2021, 11:16am

>15 pamelad: Great -- I will put you on the schedule

17NinieB
Nov. 10, 2021, 4:17pm

I will take Women Pioneers in February.

18sallylou61
Nov. 10, 2021, 4:36pm

>17 NinieB: Thanks, Ninie, but, unfortunately, February is the only month which has already been taken. Are you willing to do another month?

19NinieB
Nov. 10, 2021, 4:39pm

>18 sallylou61: Sorry, I knew that, thought March, typed February. March, please!

20LibraryCin
Nov. 10, 2021, 5:07pm

>12 Robertgreaves: Looks like it's been separated out! But the crime one, I think, has plenty of options. I think my traditional male fields probably has fewer options.

21Robertgreaves
Bearbeitet: Nov. 10, 2021, 6:11pm

>15 pamelad: I was thinking of women as the topic rather than the author - books about eg Myra Hindley or Rose West. Could we amend the subject so that it is not so author-centric?

22pamelad
Bearbeitet: Nov. 10, 2021, 6:50pm

>21 Robertgreaves: I have deliberately chosen an author-centric topic! As long as there are books about Myra Hindley and Rose West that are written by women, you can include them, but female criminals are not my focus.

ETA One of Your Own by Carole Ann Lee; Rose West: the making of a monster by Jane Carter Woodrow.

23LibraryCin
Nov. 10, 2021, 10:04pm

>21 Robertgreaves: Robert, I hadn't noticed that difference. I was hoping for women criminals, as well.

Maybe it can still be combined with my suggestion somehow, after all? Do you have any suggestions to rename it to include it with "Traditionally male dominated fields/jobs"?

24sallylou61
Bearbeitet: Nov. 10, 2021, 10:57pm

>21 Robertgreaves:, >23 LibraryCin:. Do you want to add a topic Women criminals? The explanation for Women and crime would show the difference. Or, if we want to combine it with Women in traditionally male jobs/fields we should probably add including crime. If we don't specifically spell it out somewhere, I don't think crime will be recognized in fields/jobs.

I want this CATWoman to make it as a CAT. I have a feeling that it was not discussed enough before voting, and a lot of the same people voted for both AuthorCAT and CATWoman -- probably with different thoughts about CATWoman.

25Robertgreaves
Nov. 10, 2021, 11:20pm

>23 LibraryCin: >24 sallylou61: When voting I was definitely under the impression the topic was books "by or about women" rather than "by and about women".

Be that as it may, I think Women and Crime could be inclusive enough as a topic, covering women as criminals, victims, investigators, whether in true crime or crime fiction.

26pamelad
Bearbeitet: Nov. 11, 2021, 1:12am

>24 sallylou61:, >25 Robertgreaves: We are getting bogged down when it would be better to get on with allocating topics to months.

I've decided to change topics and would like to do Women in Translation in February.

27DeltaQueen50
Nov. 11, 2021, 1:37am

Can I have "Woman During War" in September, please.

28susanna.fraser
Nov. 11, 2021, 11:30am

Is it OK to duplicate topics from 2017 or are we trying to avoid that?

29sallylou61
Bearbeitet: Nov. 11, 2021, 2:04pm

>28 susanna.fraser: Fine to dulicate topics. 2017 was a long time ago reading-wise. So that people will see that we are using both sets of topics, I selected one from the 2017 list to host. If it is the topic you are wanted to host, let me know and I will pick something else.

30Jackie_K
Bearbeitet: Nov. 11, 2021, 2:18pm

I'll host a month on Women of Colour. How about April? (If anyone is desperate to do April I don't really mind all that much what month I do, as long as it's not in the summer).

31sallylou61
Nov. 11, 2021, 2:18pm

>12 Robertgreaves: Would you like to do the Women and crime or Woman criminals or whatever you want to call it now that >26 pamelad: has chosen another topic? What month do you want?

32susanna.fraser
Nov. 11, 2021, 5:17pm

I'll take Children's/YA/Graphic Novels for August.

33thornton37814
Nov. 11, 2021, 5:33pm

How about a book by or about a first lady? It could be any country with "first ladies." It could be at any level where there are first ladies (for example, a U.S. state). This would allow people to read biographies, a children's book (Barbara Bush), mystery (Hillary Clinton), autobiography (Michelle Obama), etc. as well as some books where some first ladies are featured as characters (e.g. Abigail Adams). It could be a lot of fun to interpret this in your own way. I'd be willing to host in either April or May if this sounds like a good theme.

34pamelad
Nov. 11, 2021, 5:52pm

>33 thornton37814: This is mainly a US topic. Is there a way of expanding it to include other countries? First ladies aren't a big thing in Australia, for example.

35thornton37814
Nov. 11, 2021, 5:55pm

>34 pamelad: I said it could be any country. I guess we could say wives of heads of state. I don't know what they are called in other places. I would think it could be the wife of a prime minister or whatever they are called.

36pamelad
Bearbeitet: Nov. 11, 2021, 6:25pm

>35 thornton37814: First ladies really are not such a big thing in other countries, whatever you call them. Could the topic be expanded to include female politicians?

ETA Julia Gillard is my idol.

37Robertgreaves
Nov. 11, 2021, 6:10pm

>31 sallylou61: OK, put me down for July and Women and Crime

38sallylou61
Nov. 11, 2021, 8:37pm

39susanna.fraser
Nov. 11, 2021, 8:40pm

>38 sallylou61: Can you put me down for August instead of October?

40sallylou61
Nov. 11, 2021, 8:50pm

>33 thornton37814:. Thanks for volunteering to host. Would you be willing to change the topic to Women in Government? This could include women rulers such as queens, prime ministers, chancellors, governors, cabinet officers, legislators, judges, and wives of rulers including first ladies.
I'll save May for you until I hear from you. April has been taken.

41sallylou61
Nov. 11, 2021, 9:07pm

>3 LibraryCin: Hi. You have been active in the discussion on this CAT. Would you like to host a month?

42LibraryCin
Nov. 11, 2021, 9:23pm

>37 Robertgreaves: Yay! I'm looking forward to that one.

43LibraryCin
Nov. 11, 2021, 9:24pm

>41 sallylou61: Let me take a look at what's still there. I was going to pop in and do Women and Crime if Robert didn't actually want to host, so I was waiting on his answer. :-)

44LibraryCin
Nov. 11, 2021, 9:28pm

Ok, how about I'll do "Women in Science" and I'll choose August.

45Robertgreaves
Nov. 11, 2021, 11:04pm

Does anybody know where the somewhat bizarre touchstones on the right hand sidebar came from?

46sallylou61
Nov. 11, 2021, 11:13pm

>44 LibraryCin: Thanks. I just noticed that in >39 susanna.fraser: that Susanna.fraser asked to switch from October to August. It's hard to keep everything straight when people change their minds about topics and months. I've saved your topic for you.

47susanna.fraser
Bearbeitet: Nov. 11, 2021, 11:57pm

>46 sallylou61: Actually, I asked for August when I picked the topic back in >32 susanna.fraser:. I never requested October, so when I saw that it was listed that way I asked to have it corrected because it doesn’t fit my schedule.

48VivienneR
Nov. 11, 2021, 11:56pm

>45 Robertgreaves: They are bracketed phrases in post >1 sallylou61:

49Robertgreaves
Nov. 12, 2021, 12:39am

>48 VivienneR: OIC, thanks

50sallylou61
Nov. 12, 2021, 11:50am

>46 sallylou61:, >47 susanna.fraser:. Sorry for listing you for the wrong month, Susanna. Don't know how I did that; you definitely originally asked for August and I had your topic listed as August on the suggestions list.

Cindy, do you have another month you could do?

>45 Robertgreaves: Sorry I got so much junk to the side; I was trying to somehow highlight the topics taken, etc. I've removed the junk. This is my first time at organizing a CAT, and, obviously have a lot to learn.

51susanna.fraser
Nov. 12, 2021, 2:34pm

>50 sallylou61: Thank you for updating! I have this weird mental quirk where I'll sometimes misdate October and December documents when I'm listing the month numerically where I'll start October dates with 8 or December ones with 10 because I know "oct" means 8 and "dec" means 10, so I understand how that can happen. (I don't have the same issue with September and November, I think because there aren't as many common words with the "sept" and "nov" numeric associations.)

52DeltaQueen50
Nov. 12, 2021, 3:06pm

We have completed the themes for the AuthorCat and at the end it came down to two themes, we picked one and I thought the other one might work well here:

Issues as seen through the eyes of a woman (either fiction or non-fiction) Some of the issues we thought of were mental health, marriage, divorce, race, aging, religion, dealing with death, illness, rape, bullying etc.

I also had another idea:

Women who travel - with non-fiction as a travelogue or a story about women on a journey be it as a pioneer, a war bride, a fun road trip.


53sallylou61
Nov. 12, 2021, 3:16pm

>52 DeltaQueen50:. Thanks for suggesting these two topics. I'll put them on the list above.

54thornton37814
Nov. 12, 2021, 8:13pm

>40 sallylou61: I'm not interested in hosting a broader topic. I'll let someone else host.

55LibraryCin
Nov. 12, 2021, 9:05pm

>50 sallylou61: Ok, you can put me and Women in Science in October instead.

56sallylou61
Nov. 12, 2021, 9:39pm

>54 thornton37814: Thanks for letting me know.

57sallylou61
Nov. 12, 2021, 9:45pm

>55 LibraryCin: We now have May open. So the choices are May, June, October, November, and December. Do you still want October?

58LibraryCin
Nov. 13, 2021, 2:54pm

>57 sallylou61: Yes, October is still ok for me. Thanks!

59pamelad
Bearbeitet: Nov. 13, 2021, 3:47pm

Some CAT suggestions that didn't win, haven't been used as topics in other 2022 CATS and could fit in here are: ClassicsCAT (listed under 2017), CityCAT, SeriesCAT.

Classics Written by Women
Books Set in Cities, written by women
Series Written by Women

60sallylou61
Nov. 13, 2021, 9:03pm

>59 pamelad:. Thanks Pam. I added the last two topics to the list. Classics by women was already on the list, being the first heading under the 2017 CATWoman.

61DeltaQueen50
Nov. 14, 2021, 1:00pm

I am already hosting a number of months for various Cats and Kits so what's one month more - you can put me down for November and the topic will be "Issues as seen through a woman's eye".

62LibraryCin
Nov. 14, 2021, 2:10pm

63pamelad
Nov. 14, 2021, 2:35pm

I can do Classics in May (or June if someone else would like May).

64sallylou61
Nov. 14, 2021, 5:36pm

>61 DeltaQueen50:. >63 pamelad:, . Thanks to both of you. I was beginning to think we might need to double up on months, but was waiting a bit longer to put out the call.

65DeltaQueen50
Nov. 14, 2021, 5:57pm

>64 sallylou61: I don't want to discourage anyone from hosting so if need be, I would be quite willing to give up one of my months to someone new. :)

66lsh63
Nov. 14, 2021, 6:14pm

I’ll do a Prize Winner by a woman in December.

67sallylou61
Bearbeitet: Nov. 14, 2021, 8:10pm

>66 lsh63: Thanks a lot, Lisa. We now have a full slate of hosts. However, if anyone new wants a month, at least two of us who have two months would be glad to give up one of our slots

68sallylou61
Nov. 14, 2021, 10:39pm

I will wait a day or two for any additional volunteers before having the wiki made. Are any of you experienced wiki makers?

69pamelad
Nov. 14, 2021, 11:19pm

>68 sallylou61: I can do it. It's easy to alter, so I'll start now.

70sallylou61
Nov. 14, 2021, 11:23pm

>69 pamelad:. Thanks so much. You have really done a lot to help this CAT get started.

71pamelad
Bearbeitet: Nov. 14, 2021, 11:47pm

https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/CATWoman_2022

>70 sallylou61: Happy to help, and thank you for taking on this CAT organisation.

72MissWatson
Nov. 15, 2021, 4:42am

Thanks to everyone hosting, there are some very interesting topics for which I already have a book in mind. Looking forward to 2022!

7320thEagle
Nov. 28, 2021, 7:18am

I am new here, so please forgive the intrusion, as I am learning how this works.

In >1 sallylou61: and >12 Robertgreaves: the topic "Women in translation" was described as being about both translated books by women authors and books translated by women.

Yet the summary in the CATwoman thread refers only women authors in translation.

Should I thus infer that it has been decided to exclude works by women translators (for 2022)? And that maybe that field will be covered in another year?

74sallylou61
Nov. 28, 2021, 1:56pm

>73 20thEagle:. Welcome. I hope that you enjoy this CAT. The women in translation can be either authors or translators or both. I've changed >1 sallylou61: to reflect that.

75pamelad
Nov. 28, 2021, 2:36pm

>73 20thEagle: I've already started making a list of books for February. It includes books written by women and translated by women, books written by men and translated by women, and books written by women and translated by men.

76Robertgreaves
Nov. 28, 2021, 6:41pm

>75 pamelad: I remember reading about 6 months ago of some group of the great and the good planning to establish a literary prize for translations by women. Did anything ever come of that?

77Robertgreaves
Nov. 28, 2021, 8:21pm

Because of family stuff, July is not going to be a good time for me to host and June is going to be distinctly iffy. Would anybody be willing to swap months?

78LibraryCin
Nov. 28, 2021, 9:11pm

>77 Robertgreaves: Would you like October? I can switch.

79Robertgreaves
Nov. 28, 2021, 9:42pm

>78 LibraryCin: Yes, please

80LibraryCin
Nov. 28, 2021, 10:18pm

>79 Robertgreaves: Ok, I will plan for July instead!

81pamelad
Nov. 28, 2021, 11:05pm

>76 Robertgreaves: There's the Warwick Prize for Women in Translation, but the women are the authors. The translators can be any gender. I couldn't find a suggestion of a prize for female translators.

82Robertgreaves
Nov. 28, 2021, 11:33pm

>81 pamelad: I must have got hold of the wrong end of the stick, then. Sorry

83sallylou61
Nov. 29, 2021, 12:12am

84sallylou61
Dez. 13, 2021, 11:52am

January thread is posted here: https://www.librarything.com/topic/337468

8520thEagle
Dez. 14, 2021, 4:31pm

>74 sallylou61:, >75 pamelad:
Thank you both. My Internet access is intermittent, but I hope to be joining you in February.

I have read quite a few books written by men and translated by women, and vice versa, recently; I look forward to your suggestions for exploring the topic further.

86charl08
Bearbeitet: Jan. 1, 10:10am

I have Three Mothers from the library, so will be reading this for the biography category this month. Looking forward to a good year of reading for the themes.

87sallylou61
Jan. 1, 2:09pm

The January thread is posted at https://www.librarything.com/topic/337468