Erotica Message Board

In honor of Anais Nin's husband dying (and again opening my eyes to another chapter of that fascinating woman's life), I say that if Delta of Venus and Little Birds are not in your library, you really do not have a library.

I will go further than you LeoS, and say that people who do not have Delta of Venus and Little Birds, and might I add Henry and June in their library are even questionable to know. Or to be fair, if a person is not open to discovering Anais Nin, then that person is not worth knowing!

Wow - such challenges to our character in our first two posts! And such lengthenings of my Amazon wishlist in the past several days. I am more of an author of erotica than a reader, so I'm quite delighted to be pointed in the right direction. ;) Hopefully, soon I will be worth knowing...

I think you are pretty worth knowing already--you're open to Anais. Anais sets the bar really high for writers of erotica. It's just such a good thing that you are going to be in our libraries eventually!;)

Do you read M.J. Rose? Her writing is painfully sensual. I just finished her book Lying in Bed, and as a New Yorker she simply blew my mind up with her description of places I already know in the city. Plus her love scenes are fearless and scintillating, and she knows how to make the scenes meaningful. I hate erotic scenes that have no meaning—unless the no meaning is meaningful if that makes sense!

Why thank you! *blush* I ordered all of the suggestions so far this morning off of ebay (and you wouldn't believe the deals I got!) along with some books I had borrowed and wanted to get for myself such as The Story of O by Pauline Reage and the Beauty trilogy by Anne Rice. I have this odd addiction to books where I must own every book I have ever read.

If you ever have me in your libarary, it will probably not be for a work of stand-alone erotica - I keep most of that online. (I can post links if you want.) I have a mystery novel in progress and my published works (so far) are articles on spirituality and on the other end of the spectrum, on training new employees effectively. You can see most of my writing at http://www.imaginelove.writing.com - I have quite a bit of poetry, short stories, and articles online. My journal is even totally public, and the erotic fiction that I write as short stories are marked with (XGC) after the entry title. Be sure to tell me what you think :)

*grrrs* The internet just blipped and deleted my painstakingly beautiful message. So, you will just have to deal with my quickly typed replacement. ;)

Awww thanks! *blush* I read some excerpts of Anais on the internet, and I can't wait to get the books I ordered. I also ordered Lying in Bed as I was impressed there as well. I agree about needing meaning - I hate books with little to no plot. My husband always wonders at the books I pick up - if it's less than 500 pages, it may not satisfy me. Sometimes though, authors really need to cut everything but the "good parts" as the rest of it just seems to be justification for writing a love scene and getting it published.

Most of my own writing is online at http://www.imaginelove.writing.com so if you want to read any of my own erotica, I can give you more specific links. If I do ever get the honor of residing in your library, it probably won't be a book of erotica though... most of my published works are articles on spirituality, and the odd article on training new employees effectively. I have a mystery novel in the works, and that has a healthy dose of smut in it, so maybe one day I'll grace your librarything collection. ;)

I'm just like you--Anais Nin has really lovely retro covers for Little Birds and Delta of Venus, and I sometimes try to pick buy them again! I like to own my books too...

I agree with you. I think there is so much stigma with romance, and I have serious issues with writers who seem to invent a “plot” with their romance when the good parts are really the meat and potatoes of the story…M.J. Rose is amazing with keeping you entertained with her entire novel—since you are writing a mystery you might like to read her. Start with The Halo Effect. She has amazing blogs too.

I am definitely going to look at some of your work online. Guide me with the erotica though! It’s only fair since that is the group we are in…;)

Oh good! People are discussing stuff. I was afraid when I started the group there might not be "a group!"

I love Anais and M.J., so keep the dialogue going. I have not read The Venus Fix, but it is definitely on my to-read list. I am also excited about The Scent of Your Breath--so I do not know which book I will read first.

I am a writer of erotica, and have some erotica online. I agree with both of you, I think that it is important to have a "real" plot with romance and erotica--but the “good parts” should not be so obvious. The entire story should be "good." Lying in Bed and 100 Strokes of the Brush were very good to me of recent erotic books I've read.

I just got the Beauty series by Anne Rice in the mail today! :-D

Here's the first piece of mine that comes to mine - you can tell I copy/pasted it into my blog... (note to self: edit your formatting!)

http://www.writing.com/main/books/entry_id/389904

I had difficulty with the link--any secrets to that site?

Have you started reading The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty?

BTW What do you think of bondage being such a huge component of erotica?

Eh... do you think I could copy the story here into this message board? It may be a little risque for such a site but I don't see any posted rules against it... I may just email it to you if that works too.

I had read The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty twice a couple of years back, but I didn't own it until now. I reread the first day I got it and quickly turned myself right back off of it after I had nightmares about it all night. You know, the year it came out it won "The Raunchiest Erotica Award" sheerly based on the number of spankings given.

I am much more enjoying the Anais Nin books. :) Such cute, lighthearted stories. I also have The Surrender: An Erotic Memoirand Lying in Bed waiting on me. I didn't realize it, but I went a little nuts on Ebay last week and ordered about 60 books. *blush* I have to catch up now, while not losing track with my Bible studies. I'm also reading Eat This Book and The God Factor which are both turning out to be very interesting. :) Busy busy girl...

Oh, and on bondage - I don't mind it much, but I'm not really into it. I think most erotica uses it for sheer shock factor like they are trying to outdo the last generation of erotic writings. I tend to not be offended by anything, but it doesn't float my personal boat. I'd much rather have a good plot than sex toys. ;)

Plots are such turn-ons... mmmm plots.

You know, NaNoWriMo is starting up soon. I'm getting all excited.

First of all this is an erotica group. I don't think the sensors will mind. We'll find out if they do! Paste your story in!

NaNoWriMo is something I am going to work on too. I need as much inspiration as I can get! Have you done it before?

I completely agree with you about erotica trying to outdo itself from previous generations. It's a hard genre because everything does not turn everyone on...

Your wait for Lying in Bed will not be for naught. The Surrender: An Erotic Memoir I think depends on the reader...I will enjoy reading your response to that!

I'll post it in a thread of its own :) That way if the sensors want to get it, it won't wipe out any of our playful banter.

I've done NaNo three times so far, won for the first time last year with Scratch Film (the novel I'm currently working on and the erotic piece is an excerpt from it.) It was a completely rewarding experience. I'm on a medical leave from work right now, so I'm trying to spend some time coming up with a plotline or something to put me a little ahead of the game. Last year, I had a dream at the end of October and just turned it into a novel. *shrugs* Have you ever played before? We'll have to make a support group for LTers who NaNo come November time.

I think erotica should be just like anything else - write what you know, write what you're passionate about. If you hate sci-fi, don't write sci-fi. If you love historical war stories, write historical war stories. When people try and fake things, their writing suffers.

I'll let you know when I get to those books. ;) I think today is a lay on the couch and watch Trading Spaces day.

I think you need to start the NaNo group ASAP! I will be a novice when it comes around, but I am looking forward to the adventure...

I need time to look at your story, so I have to let you know when I have had time to analyze it. Looking forward to it. I had inspiration today and started a short erotic piece of my own--don't know where it is going to go, but I needed to stop procrastinating and do something!

Hope your medical leave is nothing too serious. Infuse the time with creativity!

Leo

I adored the Story of O, which isn't going to be a touchstone because LT really really wants it to be something called Perfume. I also read The Return to the Chateau but I didn't find it as moving.

I must say, though, that I didn't particularly like the Sleeping Beauty series. I just didn't like the writing that much and I found it to be a bit repetitive.

Naturally I adore Nin, because I am, after all, worth knowing! Or at least I like to think so.

Oooh, another adorer of Nin. Definitely worth knowing!

I am envious that you have read Return to the Chateau. I never have. I often do not like sequels...

Honestly, I have to say that even though I own the Beauty books and The Story of O, I hate that most erotica involves S/M. I have no problems with S/M, but it is not the end all as far as the erotic is concerned. I respect though, when a book dares to explore sexually, and I guess the Beauty books are iconic--I do not know how many people seem to own a copy on this site!

At the end of the day, there is hardly any Nin quality erotica out there. It's a noble search trying to find it for me though!

I have not checked in for a bit. My next endeavor is a Marthe Blau book. Isn't it great to include books you have not read yet in your library???

Leo

I also have read the Sleeping Beauty novels and found the S/M elements a bit distrubing at first, but it made The Story of O less dauting. I also didn't care for Return to the Chateau as much as the original. I have all of the Anais Nin "Journal of Love" diaries except Nearer the Moon. I have her erotica, including the rarely metioned White Stains. If you are looking for another erotica author, try Alina Reyes. Her benchmark erotic novels are The Butcher and other erotica and Behind Closed Doors which is a choose your own erotic adventure novel. you can choose to be the male character or the female character. It's never the same novel twice.

Fiso: Or to be fair, if a person is not open to discovering Anais Nin, then that person is not worth knowing!

Oh, you are wise!

Fiso: BTW What do you think of bondage being such a huge component of erotica?

I'm not a fan of all the spanky-spanky. It bores me, tending to become repetitive, no matter how creative the method.

OT: How does one create italics? I seem to be copying & pasting others' comments, and I think it would be useful.

Bookishbunny,

You are absolutely right, if you are not open to Anais, then you are definitely not worth knowing and extremely unredeemable!

I think that bondage should definitely be a component of erotica, but not the end all which it sort of is. I think it is disappointing that the genre is sometimes interpreted as just bondage. I am particularly fond of contemporary books in which there is a highly professional woman (always a woman) who is introduced to the world of leather and whips by a unconventional man. I think if you are going to be redundant about the them at least be original about the story!

Fiso

Ninon_Franco,

Thx for all of the stuff that I was able to add to my wish list--hopefully soon to my read list!

However, I was disappointed by The Butcher when I read that story, but I respect what it means in term of the genre.

Leo

I'd originally grabbed Little Birds from Bookins after reading posts on this thread. I thought it was okay, very explicit for its time, but it lacked the grace I like in sexy reads. Any other suggestions?

I did get a copy of The Halo Effect, but don't know when I'll get a chance to read it. M.J. Rose is an author that was on another fiction mailing list (fictionchat on Yahoo Groups) I'd been on several years ago. That was about the time she published her first novel, Lip Service. I'm glad to see that she has done very well.

Hi Squeaky Chu,

Thx for bringing some diversity here. I LOVE Anais Nin, and I think it's cool that you are letting someone else enjoy her.

But now I need to know--what are your favorite erotic books if Nin does not do it for you?

Fiso

I don't have any favorites. I've never chosen any book before simply because it was labelled erotic. I only joined this group to see what others were reading and because I've always heard of Anais Nin and never read anything by her. I also knew of M.J. Rose and never read anything by her, either. I was simply curious!!!

BTW, this group would not let me post unless I joined, so here I am! :-)

The only book I can remember having in the past that was erotic was one I had many, many years ago by Nancy Friday called My Secret Garden.

I was trying to think what Nin's book was lacking for me. I guess it was a sense of not really caring for the characters. My favorite books or even short stories are those in which I can really identify with the characters. If there is a sexy part in any story, all the better.

I'm a voyeur like you too--the main reason why I am on Library Thing was to see what other people were reading. As if I do not already have enough books!

I found M.J. Rose during a train delay. The woman in front of me was reading In Fidelity. Even the way she describes food is remarkably sensual. A lot of her books are based in NYC, and I am a native NYCer so her books are like sensory overload for me. An explosion of my own experience…

I actually think that Nin deals well with emotion. In a story like Hilda and Rango, one of my favorites from Little Birds, I think there was a lot of raw emotion. I adore the last part of Pierre too in Delta of Venus.

I am going to try to get hold of Delta of Venus. Again, curiosity.

The story in Little Birds I found most memorable, oddly enough, was "Little Birds". I can still picture those girls fleeing in a frightened frenzy when that old guy flashed them. Ha! :-)

My wanting to read Nin has more to do with how well known she is rather than the writing's eroticism. I always want to know what makes various authors so popular.

I am curious...since this is an Erotica group. What
determines the difference between erotic writing and pornography?

I think the difference between erotic writing and porn, is that erotic writing is very subjective. Words can be used to make something that is not traditionally arousing, very arousing. I think to be able to do that or to explore sex writing in an either very sensual or innovative way makes the difference.

I think porn writing is just using the typical and clichéd, and not being original about it at all. In the worst case, porn can be offensive and mechanical. I don't think something is erotic if I don't feel anything about it.

A man and a woman meet in a cafe. He asked her for sugar. She reaches over, hands packets to him. In handing it to him, his fingers are the softest thing she has ever touched she thinks to herself. Goes back to her coffee. The man touches her again inadvertently because he is interested in the book she is reading. The texture of the book and her hand contrast to him. He rubs the sugar off of his fingers as they discuss her copy of place book here...

The same man and woman meet. She whispers in his ear she has a type of sugar she would like to offer him privately. They go into the cafe bathroom, have sex in every possible way.

For me the first is more interesting. Maybe because I am aroused by conversations about books! Or because the couple might not even have a more erotic exchange than that, but the touching started it all.

Leo

I think that's a bit misleading- erotica can obviously involve actual sex. the couple you are using as an example could have sex 'in every possible way' and it be the hottest erotica ever written.
its about HOW the piece is written, not the content.
whether it is descriptive, embellished and beautiful or just a dispassionate cataloguing of events.
Erotica is like a mysterious lover, porn is more like a trip to the gynaecologist.

stef

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Erotica is like a mysterious lover, porn is more like a trip to the gynaecologist.

ROFL! I knew there was a reason I was postponing my trip to the gynecologist! ;-)

Sneaking this rather uncomfortable subject in here...

I know somebody who has a hidden fixation with erotica (though it's really more porn-like) based entirely on incest. I was shocked because he has an exceptionally close relationship with his sister. I know it's puritanical of me, but I wonder about their relationship now. I have a huge erotica collection (some of it very graphic) with a variety of themes. I have little desire to act out these stories, and I certainly do not 'cast' them with people I know. But this person's secretiveness (I came upon it unexpectedly) and the narrow focus of his 'taste' concerns me. Please let me know of your take on this. Any links on the psychology behind this would be appreciated, too. I apologize if it seems inappropriate here, but who else would have a better understanding of such things than those well-versed in erotica?

I used to have naked experiences with my cousin at age 5 or less... is that erotic?

I am intrigued by the knowledge that you came across with, and the "narrow focus" of his taste. I think that it is completely possible to have a fetish for erotica that you would by no means want to actually explore. I think the mind is a glorious thing, and there is plenty of room to explore forbidden things that you would not do in reality. I am not sure how you came upon this knowledge, but I think that even if the person was not indulging in those type of activates they would be embarrassed that you found them out. Incest is very much a taboo, they might have been afraid that you might think that they are into that…
I don't think that the close relationship with the sister is necessarily something to worry about.

I started out on the positive side, because that is how I am! However, I would be concerned about what is going on with him, because there are people who like to fulfill their fantasies. The only books I can think of that explore sexual fantasies are Nancy Friday's books. She has one called Men In Love, which I am sure has an incest chapter. It should give some insight into the male sexual psyche…

Thank you for the pointer. I'll have to check out the book.

BTW (update) he does not have any unhealthy isuues. We discussed things and it all makes sense now!

Hi! I joined the group so I can hang out with you Anais Nin fans =) Unfortunately I don't own any of her books but have read Delta of Venus and Henry & June. I like her style of erotica. Actually I love erotica, and I'm always trying to buy more of it, but i'm always having trouble finding ones I like. I have several erotica books that I've bought and found to be lacking. I like a slow burn, prose that intrigue & captures the imagination, as well a hot sex scene. To me erotica should be more than just poking. I hate it when I buy something that's supposed to be erotica and it turned out to be just one poking after another! I have not read Little Birds, will definitely check it out. I didn't like Anne Rice's Sleeping Beauty, and in general i'm not into a lot of bondage/spanking. I guess I'm more into the fly-in-the-wall, voyeur kind of thing....If anybody else know of a good erotica let me know!

I am also a Nin fan. I lived in Germany for a while, and when I got bored with my "proper" German lessons, I would read Nin translated auf deutche. I have read the Beauty series, which frankly I did not find as erotic as The Vampire Lestat, but then that is my weird way of looking at the world I guess. (What is NOT said is often more erotic than what IS said.)

Does anyone have any suggestions that will take me beyond Nin, et al? I am thinking about reading Lolita but I am open to other ideas.

If you read Lolita, you must read Tanizaki Junichiro's "Naomi" (though i doubt the english translation which i have not seen could do justice to the language) for balance.

I only read three or four of Nin's diaries for that was all i found in the used bookstore, but there were some nice tidbits in them.

Erotica no longer interests me, unless it is pictured (i love erotic bookplates) or humorous in a hyperlogical way. Have any of you read Li Yu: "The Carnal Prayer Mat"?

Rise, Ye Sea Slugs!

Amazing. I have been searching for some groups on erotic writing and came across this site today. I see conversations of Anais Nin, A.N. Roquelaure(Anne Rice) and think I may have actually found a place where erotica can be discussed with those that understand and appreciate it!

My latest book is called Erotica, and my writing is inspired by many of the authors I have found mentioned here.

Glad to be here!

Crimson de la Voire

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom.

Welcome aboard Crimson. It has been pretty quiet here, so maybe you help liven things up.

hello crimson, i see you write "My latest book".

i'm looking forward to your blossoming.

Using the local library computer since at the present I do not have my own,I have found on Novelist.com many entries of erotica/erotic fiction.Truly,Anais Nin is one of the most familiar authors however I have found the issues of YELLOW SILK to be great reading.

Many people overlook the book White Stains. It's in the same vein as Delta of Venus. Anais Nin wrote some of the stories along with some of her friends Caresse Crosby and Virginia Admiral. The stories' authors aren't identified, so it's interesting to figure out which stories Nin wrote. If you've read her work, it isn't entirely difficult.

Thanks Ninon_Franco for sharing! I'm not aware of any book that Nin may have contributed except for her diaries and books she authored. It's hard finding her books at this day and age, not to mention on this side of the planet!

Squeaky Chu wrote that "Erotica is like a mysterious lover, porn is more like a trip to the gynaecologist," which to a guy who finds most porn exciting and some even good, might imply that g-men turn women on, though I doubt that is what chu meant! In Edo era Japan, the women doctors, mostly used for abortions but also of help for all sorts of male and female pudendal problems, had pornographic drawings in the waiting room to excite women because it helped them reach into the vagina and open the cervix enough to slip in the medicine. Abortion is one of thirty themes exampled with 1,300 dirty senryu in my recently published book The Woman Without a Hole, or, Octopussy, Dry Liver & Blue Spots (you pick the title you want: it is an experiment in taste).
My first reader, only 90 pages into (540 pp) of it, after saying many nice things I skip, wrote:

"My one and only critique of your book is that it is too heavy to read one-handed. Thank goodness your fonts are large enough that one can continue to read, up to a certain point, even when it is jiggling. I am sure you understand. Perhaps you should wrap your book in a towel? What a great idea for gift giving. And I will be giving your book as a gift to friends and lovers – of life. What a pillow book! You can open it at any page and be instantly engaged. . ." Au: While there is a touch of dirty in all erotic, all that is dirty is not erotic, as will become clear from some chapters my kind correspondent has not yet come to. But, I must not be churlish. I am delighted to learn that my translations are good enough to turn on readers.

Au comments are posted at my website with reviews sometimes because I like dialogue. To tell the truth, I did not think of my book as sexy. I do not include "erotica" in the catalog categories on the copyright page. The closest I come is 2. Poetry -- obscene -- Japanese and 4. Sex -- Ethnology -- JApan. I am eager to know if my friend, a well-known poet and editor of link-verse, is an anamoly, or if she is representative of the way sex-loving women will respond to the book. If enough others feel the same, I should add "erotica" to the cataloguing categories and call up bookstores who boast of selling it. That is why I am looking forward to learning how fans of Annais Nin (whose diaries -- not all I am afraid, i bought in a Japanese bookshop, along with those of Cassanova!) and other lovers of erotica will feel about it.

Sorry for such a long post.

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"Erotica is like a mysterious lover, porn is more like a trip to the gynaecologist"

Er, I didn't say that. It was stephaniekate who "spoke" those words!

I was sorry to see this thread Dormant... looks like a lot of this group are no longer active? Would love to see the Group become more lively!

I especially liked imaginelove's comment 'I think erotica should be just like anything else - write what you know, write what you're passionate about. If you hate sci-fi, don't write sci-fi. If you love historical war stories, write historical war stories. When people try and fake things, their writing suffers.'

I read Anais Nin way back when, and labeling her 'erotica' kind of seems like labeling the Bible 'religious' - it's foundational

...but there's been such an EXPLOSION of publishing in erotica in the last few years - especially in so-called 'erotic romance' which can vary enormously on the erotic scale from the insipid to the graphic (I agree let's not even GO there with the ol' erotic vs.porn chesnut - we like what we like what we like - a rose by any other name and all that!)

...also with the reworking of Virgin Books' Black Lace line of erotica 'by women for women' - sometimes that's debatable - they're spotty like any publisher, but do have some good stuff - I've tagged the ones on my shelf with 'Black Lace' - I enjoyed all of the stuff Emma Holly did for them - great exploratory romps that, if you keep an open mind and just ignore the motifs that don't work for you, can really help determine just which things DO turn you on.

As for Roqulaure/Anne Rice's Sleeping Beauty trilogy - ack! Bleck! Yeuch!! I thought they were AWFUL - couldn't even get through the last one - 'oh! and he spanks her AGAIN!' - YAWN!!! I feel SO SORRY for those whose only introduction to bdsm (another tag of mine) this is. And such a disgrace to fairy tales everywhere!

...If you want some more serious bongage and whips and s/m, try Joey W. Hill - Ice Queen and its sequel are not incredibly polished, but psychologically riveting nonetheless.

...For bondage in historical romance, Judith Ivory has Untie My Heart - the title is no accident!

... and again, Emma Holly plays with bondage and domination in almost every one of her books. Lora Leigh is also a big fan of bondage, menage, young helpless women - pretty much all the old standards.

I'm not a big fan of bondage per se, but if you find a writer who's good and likes/loves/believes in their material, it's amazing how tastes can change... I think so much erotica/porn/whathaveyou is indeed a holdover from a century or two ago, and all the repression, taboos, and boring steroeotypes come along for the ride. If you can look past that, and just flip past what doesn't work for you, there's wonderful exploration and FUN to be had these days in this genre!

Oh, and if you're looking for more thoughtful erotica, check out Megan Hart - especially her latest - Tempted - it's shelved in Romance, but is not romantic at all - rather an exploration of marriage, fidelity, temptation, permissiveness - very evocative and thought-provoking and steamy all at the same time!

More to come, I hope... Keep the discussion alive!!

-rosa

Hi Rosa-

I'd love this group to be more active too. I get a lot of book ideas from LT Talk, and I'd love more advice on erotica.

I'm reading a fair bit of Morgan Hawke right now (menage, yaoi, D/s, a little bondage), and have read a few of the authors you mentioned, but will check out the others.

I have a fondness for supernatural themes, but I'll try anything twice!

I imagine that most people do not know that the most common translation into English of The Story of O is an abridged, and poor, version that was done quickly and cheaply by some low-bid hack. Another translator did a better job later but it is still not commonly available to the public. The best English translation was published by the Book-of-the-Month Club, by arrangement with Blue Moon Books Inc., in 1993. The translator was John Paul Hand. I don't know if it is still in print at this time, but one of these days I should make the effort to compare the two versions and write a description of the differences, since they differ in substance and factual detail so much. Of especial interest would be what is missing from one translation that is shown in the other. I would be more motivated if someone else was also interested. By the way, what is your favorite scene in the book?

Given that the English language is distinctly poor in describing the many categories of Love in all its forms, perhaps we should adapt the spelling of the word to express which aspect we mean to convey. For instance, the affection for family, friends and pets etc. could be written as 'love', while devoted affection for a spouse might be written as 'Love'. The most intense form of love, romantic/erotic attraction, might be written as 'LOVE'. This might solve the problem I have with many women who chose to refer to desire or erotic yearning as 'love', whereas we men tend to think of 'love' as an emotion meaning Affection, related to but not always including Desire. What do you think of this?

JT, Saw "O" decades ago and was not much impressed -- what you explain about the translation might explain why!

I am not sure any language is good or bad at describing categories of love -- whatever one translates into seems either lacking in variety where one wants a specific narrow nuance, or, to the contrary, too specialized and even pushy in demanding differentation where one happens to want a broader combination of meanings.

I can’t understand all this fuss on the Sleeping Beauty series. I picked it up once and did not like it at all. I agree with Message 50.
SqueakyChu I see you mention Nancy Friday yet you don’t have her on any of your lists.
Is there a shyness here to list the books Mentioned.

For those of you who have enjoyed stories like 'The Story of O' and the 'Sleeping Beauty' series, there is a free website with more of the same called www.bdsmlibrary.com. It is very popular, since every story that I read has been read by others during the past month. There are about 7,800 stories in it and more coming every week, all Free.
On another note, I read somewhere recently that the Sleeping Beauty fairy-tale came from a much older folk legend where Beauty could be awakened from her long sleep only by being deflowered. I suspect that this was probably the original story.

I, too, did not really like the Sleeping Beauty trilogy. I don't mind explicitness, but it was a little too spanky-spanky for me.

eta: I see this is actually similar to the comment I made two years ago in this same thread. :)

I received the following from a German translator:

> > I normally don't annoy authors, but I simply need to tell you how happy > your "woman without a hole"-book made me. It's so interesting, funny and > well-presented, I loved it to bits, and I don't even speak Japanese. > > (perhaps I should add that I translated (and published, which was kind > of not easy) Lord Rochester's poetry into German; which makes me, kind of, a colleague?)

Why do I mention this here? Because i sent a box of my book to LT and the result was one patronizing review by someone too young to really read it. I would like to know what some in this forum think of it as it is not as romantic as some feel erotica should be -- on the whole, too physical -- yet not as titillating as pornography, and I, the author have no idea where to place it. In other words, I would be grateful for your help.

The book (also called Octopussy, Dry Kidney & Blue Spots) is 100% readable at Google so even if you did not get a copy, you can readily see it even if you do not buy it.

keigu
(robin d gill)

Did anyone read this and see or even buy the book? It has gotten a great academic review by Adam Kern in the meantime.

>59 keigu:

Uh, this is bad author etiquette for this site.

Who is this man? What is he going on about... is it spam?