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2SidWainwright
Think the Aussies will win but it might be a bit closer than some have suggested - a lot depends on how McGrath and Warne bowl and how England cope with the absence of Trescothick and Jones.
Should be a good series though - a big challenge for me will be avoiding the score until the highlights come on the BBC!
Should be a good series though - a big challenge for me will be avoiding the score until the highlights come on the BBC!
3ringman
I'll go for the Aussies.
The deciding factors may be injuries and fast bowling. Last time England were lucky to be able to play a fixed side throughout the series. The Aussies were lacking support for Glen McGrath, and he was out for three games including both England wins.
The deciding factors may be injuries and fast bowling. Last time England were lucky to be able to play a fixed side throughout the series. The Aussies were lacking support for Glen McGrath, and he was out for three games including both England wins.
4Barry
Thought I'd revive this in the hope that it might revive English cricket enough to regain the ashes. Personally I'd give us a chance of a test win but not a series win, mind you the warm up matches seem to be suggesting another story?
5justjim
Even the tour matches have good things happening for us Aussies. Hussey with a ton and more importantly, batting five or so hours; and Lee finding his Mojo and some reverse swing (must be a better class of mints in England?)
6TheoClarke
I am finding it too hard to call. I gave up my chance for tickets to this series because I thought that the quality of the cricket would be low. I may yet rue this. Mind you, I really think that I could not stand a single further day of shoddy cricket at any ground this year.
7klarusu
I'm going to be spending this summer being unashamedly nationalistic (and I may have made that word up just to describe the good-natured Aussie bashing that will ensue). TheoClarke, I second you on the shoddy cricket. I'm hoping for a miraculous Brit revival (hell, I'm English, we always hope for a miraculous revival ... if wishes were wickets and all that!). Losing Brett Lee for a couple of tests can't hurt our chances. I think that the sledging will be below par this season now Warne's off the pitch ...
8Barry
OK not a particularly good first morning for England. For sure they'd have been happier with 100 for 2 or better but at least they didn't roll over (yet). It would be nice to see Collingwood and Pietersen put a partnership together as there's been a lot of concentration on all the new faces in the run up to the match.
9justjim
I'd say we take the points for the first session. I'm not normally a big fan of our "MJ", but there was some good overs in there. Bopara never looked comfortable, but he wasn't Robinson Crusoe!
Off to bed now. Recording the rest of the day's play, but I'm not sure when, if ever, I'll get to watch it.
Off to bed now. Recording the rest of the day's play, but I'm not sure when, if ever, I'll get to watch it.
10Barry
Sleep well. I really hope you wake up to 400 for 3 (in the nicest possible friendly rivalry LT way).
I give you 70-30 for the first session for sure.
I give you 70-30 for the first session for sure.
11Barry
I claim the second session for England though 80-20. A few more runs would have been nice and both batsmen looked uncomfortable at times but they're still there. 400 for 3 might be pushing it but how about 320 for 3 at the close!!!
12justjim
Well your 320 at stumps was pretty close, only 16 runs off!
I've only seen the round-up of the rest of the day's play so I can't score the sessions, but I'd say we took the points for the day.
I've only seen the round-up of the rest of the day's play so I can't score the sessions, but I'd say we took the points for the day.
13Barry
Yeah, I'll give you 60-40 for the day. I was looking for a first innings of 400+, now we would be happy with 370 I guess which is a bit below par probably. Still as a first day of an ashes series it's better than a few I can remember...
14justjim
The use of spin on day 2 should be interesting. As some say, "Here we go, here we go, here we go".
15Seanie
I was really disappointed with the outcome, I think we (Aussies) definitely played well enough to have won - though the results disagree!
17justjim
Bazza, I wondered where you'd got to after day 1. Seconds out, round 2. Lord's (why isn't it Lords'). 1934 or something since you last beat Australia there.
18TheoClarke
>17 justjim: The site was developed by Thomas Lord. There was only one of him; hence the placing of the apostrophe. The 75th anniversary of our last victory seems portentous.
19justjim
Well I never! Actually I probably did know that once but the memory seems to be turning into a forgettory these days. Nothing to do with the House of... then?
21justjim
Yes, but you've lost the Lord's test since Noah was an Able Seaman, including last time you won the Ashes!
ETA: Putting bold tags around the apostrophe in Lord's to show that I've learned my lesson didn't do a great deal, did it?
ETA: Putting bold tags around the apostrophe in Lord's to show that I've learned my lesson didn't do a great deal, did it?
22Barry
It looks more like a little ° symbol.
I'm actually back in the UK during this next test so all I need to do is persuade the couple whose wedding we're going to to not bother and then I might get down there in time ;-)
...for the rain
I'm actually back in the UK during this next test so all I need to do is persuade the couple whose wedding we're going to to not bother and then I might get down there in time ;-)
...for the rain
23Barry
Wow, Flintoff is about to announce his retirement from Test Cricket (after the Ashes) - how sad is that?
25justjim
There's also the small (for you, I'm sure) matter of the hundreds of pounds for tickets from a scalper at this late stage. And if you've already bought tickets you are in so much trouble from happy couple...
26TheoClarke
So, England take to the field to bat for the first innings of their first Ashes victory at Lord's for 75 years ... gosh! It is hard to type with crossed fingers.
27justjim
Well I'll give you that session. Pretty comprehensively too. I'm glad I got it in early (post #9) that I wasn't a great fan of Mitch. Arm angle all wrong, seam all over the shop.
Best ever opening partnership for England I believe... mind you it was that at 0/50! Sorry, 50/0 - when in Rome...
Best ever opening partnership for England I believe... mind you it was that at 0/50! Sorry, 50/0 - when in Rome...
28justjim
Forget I said that about the opening partnership, that was 182/0. Don't know why I believe commentators!
Why, oh why don't we have Ritchie Benaud commentating right now??? 222/2!
Why, oh why don't we have Ritchie Benaud commentating right now??? 222/2!
29Seanie
I'm a fan of Mitch, but I know he's not playing so well at the moment - I blame his crazy mother!
30TheoClarke
It seems to me that England won the first two sessions while the Aussies won the third. I guess that the English tail may draw it out to 450 all out and I imagine that the visitors will be able to match that.
ETA: 450? Hollow laughter now that Strauss is out second ball of the day!
ETA: 450? Hollow laughter now that Strauss is out second ball of the day!
31Seanie
Not happy with our Aussie team's performance so far at all this test! We only avoided the follow on because England wanted to bat! Not sure why they made that decision, I think the pressure was right on & avoiding the follow on would have given the Aussies a lil confidence... Still, right now it looks like England's on their way to winning their first Ashes test at Lord's in however many years it is...
32TheoClarke
75! It is 75 years! 1934! Three quarters of a century! But let us not count chickens ...
34justjim
Telecast just started here with a sort of punk version of "The Impossible Dream". Fingers, toes, eyes crossed.
Wait... eyes uncrossed again, can't see the telly.
Jim
Wait... eyes uncrossed again, can't see the telly.
Jim
35TheoClarke
I need it to be over in the next two hours... we have to take a birthday girl to see the Harry Potter movie early this afternoon! That first wicket this morning is probably enough to start the required slide.
37TheoClarke
Great result followed by a great movie. Now off for dinner and gloating.
ETA Did I mention that it has been 75 years?
ETA Did I mention that it has been 75 years?
40TheoClarke
I suspect that we will see several embarrasing wickets today.
41justjim
Arghhh running late for the start. There's talk of changes on both teams- I'll pick it up shortly. All the best to both sides.
Wicket!!!
Wicket!!!
42Barry
Damn, by all accounts he should of been out first ball but....
Still it looks a good pitch at the moment so we need 450+
Still it looks a good pitch at the moment so we need 450+
43TheoClarke
Hmmm... this is not making good viewing for Brits just now. I begin to hope for a low scoring match.
ETA the conventional E in viewing.
ETA the conventional E in viewing.
45TheoClarke
Yurgh... 108 all out and the Aussies come out blazing.
46Seanie
Yowzer! I was at the balet last night so missed the start of play, but when we got in the car to leave England were 6/72! & Stuart Clarke was on 3/7 - where has he been our whole series!!!
I tried so hard to stay awake when I got home to watch but fell asleep when we were 1/23ish...
Good to see Ponting went on a bit & sad to see Hussy's still in his rut... Looks like Ricky wasn't only making excuses when he said that we like to come from behind in a series. & looks like the Aussies havn't lost The Ashes yet!
I tried so hard to stay awake when I got home to watch but fell asleep when we were 1/23ish...
Good to see Ponting went on a bit & sad to see Hussy's still in his rut... Looks like Ricky wasn't only making excuses when he said that we like to come from behind in a series. & looks like the Aussies havn't lost The Ashes yet!
47justjim
Seconds out. Round 3 (cue round-card-carrying bikini girls).
England look flat and it is very likely to go to the fifth test at "Brit Oval" (is that the same as "The Oval"?) one apiece.
All the best to both sides.
ps Sorry* about waking you up early.
Jim
*Damn I wish I'd thought of that.
England look flat and it is very likely to go to the fifth test at "Brit Oval" (is that the same as "The Oval"?) one apiece.
All the best to both sides.
ps Sorry* about waking you up early.
Jim
*Damn I wish I'd thought of that.
48TheoClarke
Brit Assurance took over sponsoring the Kennington Oval (home of Surrey County Cricket Club) from Fosters.
Did you notice how I avoided discussing the test series?
Did you notice how I avoided discussing the test series?
50TheoClarke
Today it was a social breakfast, the first game of our football season, and a country garden party. Nobody mentioned the cricket much. :)
ETF tyop
ETF tyop
52Seanie
Morning session was England's but we hit back after lunch. Bummer I only got to watch the morning session, I wanted to stay up but no can do with an early start at work today. Hopefully I'll be able to stay awake tonight to see more :)