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1andyl
Sept. 24, 2008, 5:36am

rojse suggested we start the discussions for the second book. I have created a new topic as the other one had gotten rather long.

So suggestions to form a short list to be chosen from.

I'll kick off with

Michael Fynn - The Wreck Of The River Of Stars - basically on the strength of Nicholas Whyte's review (available on LT).

2iansales
Sept. 24, 2008, 7:04am

Strange Horizons seemed to like it too.

However, my suggestions are:
Farthing, Jo Walton
Resistance, Owen Sheers
The Night Sessions, Ken MacLeod
Kéthani, Eric Brown

3rojse
Sept. 25, 2008, 3:35am

Perhaps we could include a sentence or two in summary of what the book is about, so that people have some idea what they are voting for.

4andyl
Sept. 25, 2008, 4:22am

Can't people just click on the titles and read the Amazon description on LT?

Anyway -

Wreck Of The River Of Stars - Spaceship engines break down, captain dies, crew must try and get the ship to port on time using antiquated magnetic sails.

Farthing - alternate WWII country house mystery

Resistance - alternate WWII story (sorry all I know), not published as genre

Night Sessions - Set after the faith/oil wars and a second enlightenment. The world is a very secular world - religion gets no official recognition. Can the Edinburgh police track down who has just killed a priest. Does the killer have a larger plan?

Kethani - Fix-up novel about a group of friends in a Yorkshire village after the aliens have arrived and left the gift of immortality for all those who want it.

5iansales
Sept. 25, 2008, 4:24am

I'll do better than that:

Farthing, Jo Walton (review)
Resistance, Owen Sheers (review)
The Night Sessions, Ken MacLeod (review)
Kéthani, Eric Brown (review)

6richardderus
Sept. 25, 2008, 2:04pm

I'm always up for a trip with Jo Walton. Farthing would be my vote in nomination.

Also tossing out a nomination for Off Armageddon Reef by David Weber.

7geneg
Sept. 25, 2008, 2:18pm

I struggled through book one of the current read, it just did not grab me at all. Whatever we choose, can we choose something that is at least interesting and is a fun read. It doesn't have to be "literary", but at least a fun read.

8andyl
Sept. 25, 2008, 2:39pm

Well I have read Farthing, The Night Sessions and Kethani and they are all much lighter, much easier reads than BotNS. Of the ones suggested I would guess the Owen Sheers book is the most literary (purely because I am aware that he is better known as a poet).

I don't think the intention is to go for the same style of book each time but sometimes I guess we will get similar styles of books suggested. If enough people feel the same way as you they will not get picked every time.

9rojse
Sept. 26, 2008, 1:49am

#7

Please quantify fun and interesting. Myself, I was interested by many of the things Wolfe was doing, although I think a lot of it should have been cut out of the book.

10CD1am
Bearbeitet: Sept. 27, 2008, 3:26am

As I said when I first joined this group, I haven't read scifi in ages. But looking at some of the Hugo winners, the book that caught my eye is Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer. It's about a parallel universe where Neanderthals became the dominant species, then one of the Neanderthal scientists breaks thru to the human universe.

Another book that sounded interesting, is one of the most owned in the SciFi group, Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson. It's about a near future earth where the U.S. is a series of franchise city states and the Mafia controls pizza delivery. The hero is a hacker and a samurai swordsman besides a pizza delivery guy. When his best friend dies, the hero rushes to rescue his ex-girlfriend. It sounds kinda wacky and fun.

So those are two that sound a lot more interesting to me than the book we just read. Anyone else up for either of them?

11bobmcconnaughey
Sept. 28, 2008, 8:27pm

Possibly Anathem tho i'm not liking it as much as I'd hoped. It's reminding me too much of TBotNS (albeit a bit lighter). I'd also defn. be up for rereading/discussing one of V.Vinge's later space operas as was mooted in the first round. Probably A Fire upon the Deep as it precedes A deepness in the sky.

I love Snow Crash, would happily reread it, again! But i don't know if most folks would rather read something new or get into some depth about a text many will have already read. Also any of Richard Morgan's Black Man aka Thirteen is a great combo thriller, sci-fi, w/ a good bit of Swiftian commentary along the way.

12geneg
Sept. 29, 2008, 2:42pm

Is anyone keeping up with the suggestions?

13CD1am
Sept. 29, 2008, 3:10pm

So far there have been 10 suggestions:

The Wreck of the River of Stars by Michael Flynn
Farthing by Jo Walton
Resistance by Owen Sheers
The Night Sessions by Ken MacLeod
Kéthani by Eric Brown
Off Armageddon Reef by David Weber
Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson
Anathem by Neal Stephenson
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge

14richardderus
Sept. 29, 2008, 4:49pm

Hominids sounds interesting, put me in as a second to that one.

15bobmcconnaughey
Okt. 1, 2008, 10:20pm

meant to suggest Richard Morgan's Black Man (outside the US) and titled "Thirteen" in the US.

16iansales
Bearbeitet: Okt. 2, 2008, 2:40am

I've already read that this year - see my review here.

17rojse
Okt. 2, 2008, 5:52am

Put me up for "Black Man", by Richard Morgan.

18iansales
Okt. 2, 2008, 6:06am

Was it my review that did it? :-)

19rojse
Okt. 4, 2008, 2:14am

That book sounded the one I would be most likely to enjoy out of those that were suggested.

There are several other books that I would read even if they were not nominated for the group read, though...

20CD1am
Okt. 4, 2008, 2:24am

We now have 11 suggestions, four with two nominations each, the others with one each:

The Wreck of the River of Stars by Michael Flynn
Farthing by Jo Walton -- (2)
Resistance by Owen Sheers
The Night Sessions by Ken MacLeod
Kethani by Eric Brown
Off Armageddon Reef by David Weber
Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer -- (2)
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson -- (2)
Anathem by Neal Stephenson
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge
Black Man aka Thirteen by Richard Morgan -- (2)

Geneg, how long are nominations open this time?

21geneg
Okt. 4, 2008, 2:06pm

You're doing a great job of keeping up with this, you should decide. I would go until, say the middle of the week after next, set up a poll with the top five nominations and allow ten days for the vote. I can help you set up the poll if you like, but what you are doing is the really time consuming part of running this.

22CD1am
Okt. 4, 2008, 3:10pm

Thanx geneg, however, after tomorrow, Sunday, 10/05, I will be without easy internet contact for an indefinite period. I'm hoping to be able to find a library to check in at so I at least know what the group decides to read.

Also, if I am unable to get online during the voting period, please add in a vote for me if any of the following three books get into the final tally:
1st choice Hominids
2nd choice Snow Crash
3rd Choice Kethani

If I do get online during the voting period, I'll post a message here so you don't count me twice.
Thanx!

23LolaWalser
Okt. 5, 2008, 10:10am

I know nothing about any of the suggestions (books AND authors), and only a few just by the title, so I'll see what gets voted in and if I can find it.

24GwenH
Okt. 5, 2008, 11:56am

#23, ....but, but...do you have any to suggest? The only reason I didn't throw up a suggestion or two was I didn't do a good job on the first set of books. But you were very active for the first books, so if you have some books you've been toying with reading......

25LolaWalser
Okt. 5, 2008, 12:02pm

Oh, I feel like I can sit out this round of suggestions (seeing as my previous one won, AND wasn't much liked in the end). Also, I have mostly classics on my menu, and that's probably old hat for most people here.

Let others choose! Then I can blame THEM! :)

26GwenH
Bearbeitet: Okt. 5, 2008, 12:17pm

Oh! Oops, I didn't realize that was your suggestion. Yeah, let someone else take the heat next time. :)

edit - though I wasn't aware of anyone blaming anybody for the choice. We all voted, and unless the suggester is suggesting a book they already read, how would they know. I'd be more inclined to suggest a book I've been meaning to read. I think people understand this.

27ronincats
Okt. 5, 2008, 12:23pm

I'm going to second the Farthing and the Vinge again.

28LolaWalser
Bearbeitet: Okt. 5, 2008, 12:31pm

I didn't realize that was your suggestion

Oh, I don't think I was the first one to suggest it, but I sure was all for it...

wasn't aware of anyone blaming anybody for the choice.

Just joking.

29CD1am
Okt. 5, 2008, 12:34pm

Current status is 11 suggestions, one with 3 nominations, four with two nominations each, the others with one each:

The Wreck of the River of Stars by Michael Flynn
Farthing by Jo Walton -- (3)
Resistance by Owen Sheers
The Night Sessions by Ken MacLeod
Kethani by Eric Brown
Off Armageddon Reef by David Weber
Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer -- (2)
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson -- (2)
Anathem by Neal Stephenson
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge (2)
Black Man aka Thirteen by Richard Morgan -- (2)

This will be my last update (see explantion in note# 22), so someone else will have to take up the tracking and tallying.

30LolaWalser
Okt. 5, 2008, 1:10pm

I read the descriptions now, and my nomination vote is Farthing, although others look interesting too. I'm in the mood for something mystery-ish. I'm afraid to read the reviews, to me everything is a spoiler.

31rojse
Bearbeitet: Okt. 6, 2008, 6:54am

I would be up for some classic SF, it's nice to see if the books of yesteryear compare to today's works.

And older SF has the added bonus that it is always short and succinct, a fact that most here could appreciate after reading that huge behemoth Book of the New Sun.

32andyl
Okt. 6, 2008, 8:41am

Good point.

The following are all over 500 pages - The Wreck Of The River Of Stars, Anathem, Black Man, and A Fire Upon The Deep.

Anathem is only in hardcover which may be a mark against it.

The Night Sessions is only in hardcover at the moment. There is no US edition yet as far as I know either. Which could be a big problem for the North American readers.

33geneg
Okt. 6, 2008, 10:34am

Quite often it takes more than five hundred pages to create a believable and fully fleshed set of charachters and the milieu in which they operate. There are many tight, succinct novels that exceed 500 pages, and are page turners from start to finish. they just need time and space to tell their stories, to make their points.

The problem I had with TBotNS was that after the first book, I had no sense of direction except that by the time Severin was writing, his own personal ennui exceeded even mine. The story felt like it was going nowhere and was mired in fantasy, a genre I just don't care for. That's just my taste.

The point I'm trying to make is that size is unimportant, completeness, reasonableness (not violating the law of physics. I can take intertgalactic travel as long as it does not occur at speeds greater than the speed of light, for instance), and an engaging story are far more important.

34geneg
Okt. 6, 2008, 10:37am

Just to illustrate this point, I'll throw out James Blish's Cities in Flight as a suggestion.

35LolaWalser
Bearbeitet: Okt. 6, 2008, 10:39am

#31

From my classics batch, I was going to read John Wyndham's "The day of the triffids" next.

I don't know if there's any point in suggesting it if everyone else has read it...

36andyl
Okt. 6, 2008, 11:01am

#34

But Blish's Cities in Flight isn't a single novel, and wasn't intended to be when written.

It was written and published in the following order 3, 1, 4, then 2. The second book A Life For The Stars was published some four years after book 4 and was certainly written some time after the others had got good press and after Blish had matured as a writer.

37andyl
Okt. 6, 2008, 11:06am

#35

There is always a chance. OK I have read the Triffids and recently re-read it - but then I have read 7.25 of the existing 11 suggestions. However others who haven't read it recently may vote for it. It certainly has a charm of its own.

Why 7.25? I read part of the serialisation of Hominids in Analog.

38geneg
Okt. 6, 2008, 11:11am

I read it as a single novel, and while the break is noticeable between the first and second more so than between 2,3,or 4. It does hang together quite well.

It's just a suggestion.

39GwenH
Okt. 6, 2008, 11:38am

#31 From my classics batch, I was going to read John Wyndham's "The day of the triffids" next.

I don't know if there's any point in suggesting it if everyone else has read it...


For the record, it's on my TBR pile! However, I said because I was bad and didn't finish the first 4 books, I would stay out of the nominating process for the 5th one.

But....it's hard. I will say though that both newer and older appeal. There are huge gaps in my reading of some older books. There is also some appeal in reading writer's who write a more succinct story as I have lots of other manditory reading at the moment.

40GwenH
Okt. 6, 2008, 11:40am

Oh, and the voting worked fine the last time, but I sure wish we could have the whole list and then pick our top 3 or 5 or whatever. Then the top one wins, but it's the book that the most people had near the top of their choices. It's so hard picking just one.

41LolaWalser
Okt. 6, 2008, 12:10pm

Well, we can throw Wyndham on the pile and see what happens. One of its advantages, I think, is that it's not a huge book, clocks in at around 200 Penguin paperback pages (plus or minus Peter Piper's peck of pickled peppers!)

42billiejean
Okt. 6, 2008, 1:57pm

I haven't read The Day of the Triffids yet and have been wanting to since seeing it in the 1001 books book. I saw the movie, or a movie with the same name, long years ago and have been wanting to see it again. :)
--BJ

43CD1am
Bearbeitet: Okt. 6, 2008, 3:19pm

Okay, okay, I'm surprised myself I'm online so fast, but at least for now I'll update the list since there have been a couple new suggestions.

Current status is 13 suggestions, one with 4 nominations, five with two nominations each, the others with one each:

The Wreck of the River of Stars by Michael Flynn
Farthing by Jo Walton -- (4)
Resistance by Owen Sheers
The Night Sessions by Ken MacLeod
Kethani by Eric Brown
Off Armageddon Reef by David Weber
Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer -- (2)
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson -- (2)
Anathem by Neal Stephenson
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge (2)
Black Man aka Thirteen by Richard Morgan -- (2)
Cities in Flight by James Blish
The Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham (2) (that is, if I'm correct in interpreting that billiejean was 2nding the Triffids nomination--correct me if I'm wrong)

44rojse
Okt. 7, 2008, 2:07am

#33

You don't think The Stars My Destinatin does not create a believable world in about two hundred-odd pages?

45rojse
Okt. 7, 2008, 2:08am

Remove my nomination from Thirteen (post 19), and put it on Day of the Triffids.

46billiejean
Okt. 7, 2008, 2:16am

#43 Yes, after saying that I don't know enough to nominate a book, I find that I want to nominate one after all. So yes, I second or third The Day of the Triffids.
--BJ

47BigJoel55
Okt. 7, 2008, 8:57am

As always, many worthwhile reads on the list ... I'm for A Fire Upon the Deep. Sorry, I just can't resist a good, thick SF novel.

48ronincats
Okt. 7, 2008, 6:15pm

I haven't read Cities in Flight in ages (yes, it's sitting over there next to A Case of Conscience and Black Easter. If we are going to talk about re-reading classics, and thinking of the discussions going on in other threads, how about Dune? I'm sure I haven't re-read it in 20 years!

49geneg
Okt. 7, 2008, 6:56pm

In # 36 andyl says: "But Blish's Cities in Flight isn't a single novel, and wasn't intended to be when written.

It was written and published in the following order 3, 1, 4, then 2. The second book A Life For The Stars was published some four years after book 4 and was certainly written some time after the others had got good press and after Blish had matured as a writer."

It occurs to me that this is a forest and tree kind of situation.

Seeing only the one book, I was unaware of it's developmental story. I only saw the forest. Knowing it's history, as andyl does, brings us to the trees. I was just enjoying the view of the forest. Shows you what I know>

50iansales
Okt. 8, 2008, 12:42pm

Here's another suggestion: Necropath by Eric Brown. Just been published.

51rojse
Okt. 9, 2008, 3:41am

Cities in Flight by James Blish
Necropath by Eric Brown
Kethani by Eric Brown
The Wreck of the River of Stars by Michael Flynn
The Night Sessions by Ken MacLeod
Black Man aka Thirteen by Richard Morgan
Resistance by Owen Sheers
Anathem by Neal Stephenson
Off Armageddon Reef by David Weber
Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer (2)
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson (2)
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge (3)
The Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham (3)
Farthing by Jo Walton (4)

52CD1am
Okt. 9, 2008, 2:02pm

#51 rojse, it appears you missed Dune which was a new suggestion in #48, so I'll post the list again.

Current status is 15 suggestions, one with 4 nominations, two with 3, and two with 2 nominations:

Dune by Frank Herbert
Cities in Flight by James Blish
Necropath by Eric Brown
Kethani by Eric Brown
The Wreck of the River of Stars by Michael Flynn
The Night Sessions by Ken McLeod
Black Man AKA Thirteen
Resistance by Owen Sheers
Anathem by Neal Stephenson
Off Armageddon Road by David Weber
Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer (2)
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson (2)
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge (3)
The Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham (3)
Farthing by Jo Walton (4)

53geneg
Okt. 10, 2008, 11:28am

The Forever War gets high marks in another thread. How about adding that to the list.

54CD1am
Okt. 12, 2008, 8:49pm

Current status is 16 suggestions, one with 4 nominations, two with 3, and two with 2 nominations:

The Forever War by Joe Haldeman
Dune by Frank Herbert
Cities in Flight by James Blish
Necropath by Eric Brown
Kethani by Eric Brown
The Wreck of the River of Stars by Michael Flynn
The Night Sessions by Ken McLeod
Black Man AKA Thirteen
Resistance by Owen Sheers
Anathem by Neal Stephenson
Off Armageddon Reef by David Weber
Hominids by Robert J. Sawyer (2)
Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson (2)
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge (3)
The Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham (3)
Farthing by Jo Walton (4)

55rojse
Okt. 17, 2008, 9:00am

Since we wanted to start our group read in mid-October, and we have five books with multiple nominations, perhaps we can do our second round of voting?

56geneg
Okt. 17, 2008, 9:23am

I'm ready. May I suggest a poll among the top five?

57iansales
Okt. 17, 2008, 9:27am

Works for me.

58richardderus
Okt. 17, 2008, 2:23pm

Second the motion to close nominations. Looking forward to the poll, which I haven't the skills to set up.

59geneg
Okt. 17, 2008, 2:57pm

Okay, here is the new poll. It expires at 5 pm GMT10/23/08 or 23/10/08 depending on where you live.

Happy voting.

60richardderus
Okt. 17, 2008, 4:07pm

Thank you, geneg, you are a scholar and a gentleman.

61billiejean
Okt. 17, 2008, 5:42pm

I know this is a silly question, but how does GMT compare to say New York time? How many hours different and which way?
Thanks!
--BJ

62iansales
Okt. 17, 2008, 5:59pm

Other way round. GMT is 0, New York time will be -5 hours.

63rere
Okt. 17, 2008, 6:00pm

Both of those sound like enjoyable 'reads'. I luv SF, and have not been reading much of the genre as so very much of it is so VERY 'dark'. We each are allowed our tastes. I'd like to read along with the group, and select book by book, to do so. SF is my very fave genre, however do NOT get to read it much. Where are the Heinleins, Asminov's, Van Vogt's, Poul Anderson's, Alfred Bester, Octavia Butler, Arthur Clarke, Sprague de Camp, Andre Norton and lots of others that I followed and read as much of their work, that I could get to borrow/buy, as the case was.

I have read a couple of books by Mercedes Lackey, and the earlier sf work of Catherine Asaro. I liked both. The fantasy by Asaro is for others, however, I DO HAVE all of her SF and many of the multiple MANY works/novels by Lackey, "tbr", in both cases.

I read a really fun and funny one about San Antonio Texas recently that the above two books make me think of. I would really try to get ahold of either Hominids or Snow Crash, for that reason. Ask me abt. that bk.& I'll get it out. I've "kept" it because I've enjoyed it THAT much. I keep few "keepers', and IF I DO, they are invariably sf!

64ronincats
Okt. 17, 2008, 7:00pm

Rere, I was going to suggest that you try the Liaden books by Lee and Miller, but I see you have already found them--you've got about 9 more to enjoy! I don't see any Bujold on your list--try Shards of Honor and move on, they just get better. I also recommend Steven Brust--start with Jhereg

65billiejean
Okt. 18, 2008, 2:26am

#62 Thanks for the info. This also came up in some other group (I can't recall which). I get confused just crossing state lines and then especially when different states treat daylight savings time differently.
--BJ

66ronincats
Okt. 18, 2008, 12:08pm

Researching our choices--what a great sounding group of books! I've only read The Day of the Triffids, but that was at least 30 years ago. I have both A Fire Upon the Deep and Snow Crash in my TBR pile, and downloaded Farthing when it was available this summer electronically. And I've never read any Robert J. Sawyer, but Hominids sounds interesting too. This is going to be a hard decision to make. Classic SF, alternate history, or cyperpunk? What am I in the mood for? The good news is that whatever book is chosen, it looks like I'm in for a good read!

67CD1am
Okt. 21, 2008, 9:16pm

Finally got back online again in time to vote. Even tho my first choice isn't going to win, sigh.

68ronincats
Okt. 23, 2008, 10:36pm

Well, I've put a call in to the Central Library to send a copy of The Day of the Triffids out to my branch library. It will be interesting to re-read after 30 or more years. And it should be a quick read.

69CD1am
Okt. 23, 2008, 11:00pm

Why are there 18 votes, but only 14 pins on the map? That counts the two that overlap around San Diego.

70billiejean
Bearbeitet: Okt. 24, 2008, 1:25am

#69 What do you mean by 14 pins on the map?
--BJ
ETA Did The Day of the Triffids win?

71CD1am
Okt. 24, 2008, 1:39am

#70 if you go to the voting page, and don't vote again, but underneath the list of books click the link "Not for me...show the results>>" it'll take you to a page where you see the percentage of voters who voted for each book and the total number of votes (18). Lower on the page there is a map with pins or flags showing the locations of the people who voted. From what I see there are 9 in the U.S., 1 in Canada, 2 in Britain and 2 in Australia. That makes 14 individuals mapped, but 18 voters. Somewhere there is a disconnect, unless I'm overlooking some overlapping flags.

72sqdancer
Bearbeitet: Okt. 24, 2008, 1:59am

I see 2 in Canada, 9 in the US, 2 in Britain, and 2 in Australia for a total of 15.

73CD1am
Bearbeitet: Okt. 24, 2008, 2:22am

Whoops, the Toronto pin was so close to the Buffalo, New York pin I counted it as U.S. Now I see there are also 2 pins in Buffalo so that does make 15.

Stating the obvious, there seem to be 3 voters not mapped. Hopefully when Geneg comes on next, he'll clarify this puzzle.

74LolaWalser
Okt. 24, 2008, 10:35am

Hmmm... Does reloading double the vote?

75LolaWalser
Okt. 24, 2008, 10:39am

Uh... this is odd. I don't see my flag. I could swear I voted. (Toronto)

76sqdancer
Bearbeitet: Okt. 24, 2008, 10:45am

>75 LolaWalser:

I see a flag/balloon for The Day of the Triffids at Toronto. Is that yours?

77LolaWalser
Okt. 24, 2008, 11:10am

You do? I guess it is... or, could be me. How about next time we note here when we have voted? Just to have a tally.

78geneg
Okt. 24, 2008, 6:50pm

Well, as most of you have surmised, the winner is The Day of the Triffids by John Wyndham.

79bobmcconnaughey
Okt. 25, 2008, 2:51am

well fk...i totally missed the vote..would've been for Farthing.

80andyl
Okt. 25, 2008, 8:50am

Wouldn't have made a difference. Triffids won by a mile - which should show people that it is always worth suggesting a book even if you think everyone has already read it to death.

81iansales
Okt. 25, 2008, 9:33am

Ah well, I voted for Farthing. It looks like a trip to Waterstone's will be needed next week. Happily, Penguin have just bought out a new edition of The Day of the Triffids, so it won't be hard to find.

82bobmcconnaughey
Okt. 25, 2008, 4:25pm

i'm gonna see if i can pick this one up at the library as i donate my copy of TSotT.

83CD1am
Okt. 25, 2008, 4:51pm

#78 geneg, what causes the unmapped people? I don't favor either Farthing or Day of the Triffids, but with so few people voting, if actual number of voters is 15 as the map records, instead of 18 as the number of votes indicate, it means there are three inadvertent double votes. In the event all the double votes went to Triffids, with so few voters, maybe an accurate vote would have required a runoff between Farthing and Triffids, instead of Triffids being the outright winner.

Is there a way of showing the actual number of votes for each title? I can only see the percentage of votes for each title--and I'm too lazy to figure out what that means in numbers.

#75 lola, you may have to step up the size of the map for your Toronto flag to come out from under the Buffalo flag.

84ronincats
Bearbeitet: Okt. 25, 2008, 5:35pm

I'm one of the extra votes. The first time I went back to look at results, I couldn't figure out how to do it without voting again. The next time, Doh!, I saw the small print below about going straight to the results. FWIW, I voted Vinge both times. I didn't report it since it was clear Vinge wasn't going to win. I'm the San Diego flag, BTW.

Note: If you take away my second vote for Vinge (please!), Triffids won by 3 over Fire, which was in second place, so the election results would not be affected by the other 2 unaffiliated votes.

85rojse
Okt. 25, 2008, 6:08pm

#83

I thought that one of the points of a group read was that we would be introduced to books that we might not otherwise have read.

86LolaWalser
Okt. 25, 2008, 6:21pm

#80

aaack! I promise to abstain from suggestions the next time! :)

#83

I knoooow, I triiiied (to enlarge the map), but for whatever reason I couldn't see anything in Canada--ALL of it. Googlemaps also told me that I couldn't go to that magnification or whatever. Eh, anyway.

Well, if there's confusion about this vote, Gene, maybe we can repeat it? Then Bob gets to cast his vote too. It's not like we're all going somewhere in haste, are we?

87CD1am
Okt. 25, 2008, 6:25pm

#85 rojse, I wasn't saying I'm not interested in reading either book, I was just clarifying that my reason for raising the voting numbers issue had nothing to do with my book preference.

88rojse
Okt. 26, 2008, 12:30am

#87

Apologies for the misunderstanding.

89CD1am
Nov. 2, 2008, 1:38am

#86 Lola, I think I agree with #84 ronincats clarification and view of the vote, i.e., that The Day of the Triffids won. I don't think Bob's vote would change the end result, it would just have made it a little closer.

#87 no problem

90ronincats
Nov. 2, 2008, 9:52am

So, I've got my notice that the book is waiting at the library for me, so that's my next read. Has anyone started yet? And do we need to start a thread specifically for the book, or just continue in this one?

91CD1am
Nov. 2, 2008, 1:10pm

I would think we should open a new thread so the titles of our group reads are obvious to anyone who views our group. So saying, tho I haven't got the book yet, I'll initiate the discussion thread.

92bobmcconnaughey
Nov. 10, 2008, 7:59pm

i'm going to get to the UNC library next sunday..so i'll have a copy of Triffids then...catch everyone in a few!

93ronincats
Nov. 14, 2008, 11:09pm

So here we are in mid-November, and where are all those Triffid readers over on the book thread? Only three of us who have read it so far, and--this is weird. I was going to harangue those who voted FOR it and went to the poll, and can only find 14 votes, not 18 as it says. Which is one more than CD1am found. And both of mine show up, so scratch one of those, making it 4 for Fire on the Deep--San Diego, Buffalo, Texas and Canberra. Both votes from England were for Farthing, as was that of the person on Long Island. The lone vote for Hominids was in Wisconsin. And 5 votes for Day of the Triffids, in Toowoomba, Redondo Beach, Tulsa, Toronto, and Edmonton. Lola is in Toronto. Don't know where billiejean is. Bob missed the vote (nothing in North Carolina) and he doesn't get the book until the day after tomorrow anyway. So where are the rest of you??? And what happened to the other four votes the poll said were cast? I enlarged everything to make sure none were hiding. Does it record visits to the results, perhaps?

94geneg
Nov. 15, 2008, 12:08am

I have yet to receive mine from e-bay.

95ronincats
Nov. 15, 2008, 1:07am

Well, that accounts for the Texas vote, but you didn't vote for Triffids either. Hope your book gets there soon.

96billiejean
Nov. 16, 2008, 12:04am

I voted for The Day of the Triffids, and I live in Oklahoma. I could not find the book locally. However, I knew that I wanted to read it so I ordered it before the vote was finished.
--BJ

97bobmcconnaughey
Bearbeitet: Nov. 16, 2008, 10:54pm

got Day of the Triffids today...had a choice between a VERY fragile and moldy 1951 edition in the main uni library and a 1966 omnibus collection that looks a little less hazardous to one's health from the undergrad library. Noticed that the UNC library has it cataloged as a "juvenile." I'll get to work..asthma inhaler at hand ;-).

98rojse
Nov. 17, 2008, 2:53am

I voted for Triffids, and my book will apparently be coming to the library either this week or the next.

99CD1am
Nov. 20, 2008, 4:37pm

Still waiting for the library to get in my request for Triffids.

100GwenH
Dez. 10, 2008, 9:55pm

I'll still be reading it just as soon as I finish a last research paper for a class this week. :)

After that, I should be able to keep up with the group reading. I just had so much reading for a class that extra fiction was out of the question the last couple of months.