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Im Spiegel der Anderen (1991)

von Mary Gaitskill

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A story about two women, contrastingly different but powerfully drawn to one another. As their relationship develops, they reveal what lies beneath the surface of their suburban childhoods - violence, pain, intimacy, isolation, denial, fulfilment and the betrayal of love and innocence.
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    Ayn Rand and the World She Made von Anne Conover Heller (JuliaMaria)
    JuliaMaria: One of the two "girls" is writing an article about Ayn Rand (satiracally named "Anna Granite") and her circle, the second one was the secretary of Ayn Rand and is thus interviewed by the first.
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Huh. I think I may have read this too close to [b:The Robber Bride|17650|The Robber Bride|Margaret Atwood|http://photo.goodreads.com/books/1320478077s/17650.jpg|1119196] to properly appreciate it. Both books have women carefully selected to contrast each other. Both focus on their childhood, their adolescence and then their adulthood, starting with adulthood then going back to childhood and working their way forward. Both grapple with dark themes and child abuse.
In contrast, Two Girls, Fat and Thin has beautifully vivid writing, particularly in the chapters narrated by Dorothy where her imagination roams free, but less substantial characterization. ( )
  settingshadow | Aug 19, 2023 |
dark psychological book. Well written but painful at times ( )
  lindaspangler | Jan 21, 2023 |
did not know it was her first novel. well written in a heart stopping way at times, a bit tedious at others, uneven, shocking, kinky, dark, goes there, very mean-mouthed but thought provoking. it wasn't an easy read, it's a rough one, shot through with beauty and wry wisdom ( )
  boredgames | Sep 6, 2020 |
I read this years ago and stil remember the almost visceral power of Gaitskill's style. ( )
  laurenbufferd | Nov 14, 2016 |
The book is about a freelance journalist looking to do an article on the founder of the Definist movement who interviews the narrator whose entire 'sane life' has been based on her teachings. The book traces the lives of the girls - now women - highlighting their differences and yet some underlying similarities to their histories. It seems unlikely and plausible at the same time that they should become friends or that their lives should mean anything to each other at all. Yet, somehow, they continue to enter each other's thoughts after the interview and their paths continue to cross as they seek each other out.

It is well written and the descriptions are powerful. The psychology of these women is powerful and the author is fearless in exploring rather base human impulses and emotions. I found the characters heartbreaking in their loneliness in current time and their difficult pasts. I found the book very disturbing in parts throughout as it dealt with one of the main character's appetite for violence and need for debasement. I won't lie that in parts the novel was very difficult to read.

I think the hardest part is seeing yourself anywhere in the novel whether it's the simple loneliness of modern life or bad relationships or a lack of self-respect. To see yourself anywhere in this book or perhaps just the recall the cruelty of childhood whether you were the victim or perpetrator of thoughtless cruelty is very difficult.

And the book is full of cruelty. But perhaps that only makes the small glimpses of kindness shine all the brighter as the reader can see the characters cling to them desperately. It's a book about the darker side of humanity and I'm not entirely convinced that the resolution was adequate in the face of everything awful that happened in the book.

In conclusion: interesting read but very heavy emotionally and not a completely satisfying ending. ( )
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A story about two women, contrastingly different but powerfully drawn to one another. As their relationship develops, they reveal what lies beneath the surface of their suburban childhoods - violence, pain, intimacy, isolation, denial, fulfilment and the betrayal of love and innocence.

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