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Dahlgren (1975)

von Samuel R. Delany

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Dhalgren by Samuel R. Delany (2001)
  1. 20
    Lanark: Ein Leben in vier Büchern von Alasdair Gray (fugitive)
    fugitive: Surreal, bizarre, pretentious, weighty, confusing. Those are good things. I think.
  2. 10
    Little Big oder Das Parlament der Feen von John Crowley (TheSpecialistsCat)
  3. 10
    Die Parabel vom Sämann von Octavia E. Butler (thesmellofbooks)
    thesmellofbooks: A very different dystopia written by a very different African-American science fiction writer. Yet the intensity and humanity of Parable of the Sower are present as well in this much older book.
  4. 00
    Glimmering von Elizabeth Hand (kraaivrouw)
  5. 00
    Moonwise von Greer Ilene Gilman (TheSpecialistsCat)
    TheSpecialistsCat: Another uncompromising and difficult but rewarding novel nominally in the SF&F genre. Also Joycian, though in a different sense than Dhalgren.
  6. 00
    Perdido Street Station von China Miéville (aaronius)
    aaronius: Another dystopian dream-city to get lost in with weird sex and fantastic writing.
  7. 00
    Das Haus von Mark Z. Danielewski (aaronius)
    aaronius: Similarly fragile boundaries between metaphor, reality, author and reader.
  8. 01
    Finnegans Wehg von James Joyce (TomWaitsTables)
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Well, that was interesting ( )
  farrhon | Oct 1, 2021 |
It's one of those so called must read novels if you're serious about your science fiction, and I decided I was finally going to tackle this monstrosity.

It has its bits of genius. Through all the meandering, the sex (and sex, and more sex) there are passages worth remembering. Dhalgren has ideas and they're big interesting ones. The city itself is awesome: there is a character that walks around the neighborhood changing Street signs and a newspaper that seems to randomly assign dates.

But it's all buried by the trudgery. Lots and lots of "balling", a word I wish to never really read again. At about three hundred I was wishing for it to wrap up. By the final third, experimental found journal bit, it was forced reading. ( )
  illmunkeys | Apr 22, 2021 |
The punkrockest setting and philosophy ever written probably. Won't add anything superficial to the scholarship around it here on GR. Read it, then we'll talk! ( )
  EugenioNegro | Mar 17, 2021 |
It's tough to review this, as what I had initially expected going into this and what I actually got were two very different things. I think the first half of it works really well, but there's some poorly-defined point about halfway through where I realized that Delany had lost me and I ended up pushing myself through to finish it. Someone more prepared for the more formally experimental parts might be more into it, though. ( )
  skolastic | Feb 2, 2021 |
This book sold over a million copies. I wish there was a graph that showed how far each reader made it through.

This is my experience.

I bought Dahlgren in the year of its publication, 1975, 3rd printing. Sometime probably around 2015, I started my first read. (I should add I have read tons of SF and Fantasy since the 1960's.) I made it over 300 pages, then my attention flagged and I moved on.

During this Pandemic Year of 2020, I picked it up again, tried to read from where I left off, but could not pickup the thread. So I decided to start over. (I sometimes find that with more challenging reads, if I reread the beginning and invest the time fully to understand what is going on and any seeded mysteries to be solved, it gives me the momentum I need to make more enjoyable progress. And the opening to the novel is very compelling. Daphne!) But, once again, my momentum flagged a wee bit further along this time, around page 400, and died this morning (RIP) on page 456.

So what to make of this? Well, for one, I started to suspect that maybe there was nothing to solve, that it just wasn't that kind of book, but, instead, one in which plot is totally subordinated to character and setting. (No spoiler alert since I do not know if my intuition is correct.) If this is the case, the reader is then fully dependent on the interest in the moment to carry one through.

Moreover, I was sure that there was no more pleasure to be had in Bollona for me. This is not to say that there had been no pleasure along its smoky streets.

Finally, disturbingly, all of my other reading is in a holding queue governed by a negative correlation: the queue grows as my ability to turn pages in Dahlgren decreases. (This raises thorny questions like "Should Baldwin's Go Tell It on the Mountain languish behind Dahlgren?")

My final judgment on Delany's work goes no further than to report that I have twice failed to finish it, but that I am glad I made each attempt. It was not a waste of time, but it has now become a waste of energy. I am a boomer. "Time's wingèd chariot [is] hurrying near."

Some decisions are just pragmatic. Moving along... ( )
  tsgood | Nov 1, 2020 |
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Samuel R. DelanyHauptautoralle Ausgabenberechnet
Charpentier, Annette vonÜbersetzerCo-Autoreinige Ausgabenbestätigt
Ellis, DeanUmschlagillustrationCo-Autoreinige Ausgabenbestätigt
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