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The Will to Battle: Book 3 of Terra Ignota (2017. Auflage)

von Ada Palmer (Autor)

Reihen: Terra Ignota (3)

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"The long years of near-utopia have come to an abrupt end. Peace and order are now figments of the past. Corruption, deception, and insurgency hum within the once steadfast leadership of the Hives, nations without fixed location. The heartbreaking truth is that for decades, even centuries, the leaders of the great Hives bought the world's stability with a trickle of secret murders, mathematically planned. So that no faction could ever dominate. So that the balance held. The Hives' façade of solidity is the only hope they have for maintaining a semblance of order, for preventing the public from succumbing to the savagery and bloodlust of wars past. But as the great secret becomes more and more widely known, that façade is slipping away. Just days earlier, the world was a pinnacle of human civilization. Now everyone--Hives and hiveless, Utopians and sensayers, emperors and the downtrodden, warriors and saints--scrambles to prepare for the seemingly inevitable war"--… (mehr)
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Titel:The Will to Battle: Book 3 of Terra Ignota
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Info:Tor Books (2017), 352 pages
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The third instalment of Terra Ignota is the same as the previous books, but different. The style remains (mostly; and when the authorial voice within the book changes, so does the style); but the world is changing, sliding towards war in the manner of the boiled frog. Events take place, some major, others seemingly minor. Only at the end do you look back and realise how far down the slope to conflict we have come.

Though the pace is unchanged, there are bigger and better set-pieces; the Games of the 140th Olympiad, held in a city in Antarctica, are spectacularly described. Some of the set-pieces occur off-stage, but are none the less spectacular for all that; after all, these are novels about people as well as events, and seeing events through the perceptions of people who, like us, experience most of them second hand is still a human experience that we can share and understand. And along the way, more detail of the world is revealed, allowing us to fill in another corner of the bigger picture.

A fourth volume is still to come, but it has been delayed for personal reasons. The amount of effort Ada Palmer has put into writing these books on top of her Day Job and other interests cannot be under-estimated, and that it could contribute to her state of health is understandable. There are plenty of readers willing to wait for the conclusion to the series for as long as it takes. All the more time to digest the story up to now. ( )
2 abstimmen RobertDay | Jan 4, 2021 |
The third instalment of Palmer's Terra Ignota series continues to be just as wonderful - dense, clever, humane and gripping. I can't wait for book four. ( )
  Pezski | Jun 21, 2020 |
Update, later the same day:
I think I'm gonna nominate this one for Hugo. It keeps getting better on reflection. :)

Original Review:

I took my time and savored this one. It deserves it. And more.

Ada Palmer has made a world worth luxuriating in, and far from resting on the Greek laurels she and her work deserve, she's delved deep into new philosophical questions while all the time fascinating us with complicated and rich characters. Never even mind the glorious world-building. The amount of thought and forethought in all of this is astounding.

The title gives the main action away. It is not Battle. But the Will to Battle. This is a philosophical conundrum. A wrenching up. A decision to kill or be killed. What's most fascinating about this is the fact we began these books in a de-facto utopia.

The first book throws all our perceptions and assumptions for a loop, especially when the great murderer is, in fact, a hero, but a hero for what? The second book dives deeper into the mysterious mass-assassinations and the purpose behind them, right down to the rights of kings and the greater ideological good of society. It also explores godhood as an observer and as a limited player and does it in such a way as to frame the rest of the book in a brilliant argument for and against the destruction of a whole society.

This book is both a surprising and sophisticated exploration of nobility, goodness and idealistic (broad sense) response to the calling of war and perhaps a complete destruction of humanity. I'm talking eyes-wide-open exhaustive discussion of turning their utopias (and there are essentially eleven different kinds of utopias in this world) into mass death, destruction, and eventual barbarism. Everyone's aware of the pitfalls and only the truly war-like among us (including the original, actual Achilles) has the most wisdom to impart. Prepare well. Keep lines of communication open. Stock up. Draw battlefield lines. Prepare for the absolute worst. Go about all your days, preparing to die.

What's most shocking about this book is the fact that it never feels contrived or absurd. At all. It's like being in reality, keeping a clear head, and carefully choosing to murder for the sake of your most deeply held beliefs... even while you live in heaven.

Disturbing? Hell, yeah. Understandable? Yeah. In this case, all the events, all the subjects, all the people in it are treated with respect and honor even when it's about assassination, betrayal, grief, or the realization that everything is not only going to change, but nobody will win. And yet the Will to Battle persists. Remains. It is inevitable, but heroism now consists in postponing the tragedy or mitigating the worst effects.

This is, after all, a highly advanced scientific and cultural utopia we have on Earth. Means to destroy are vast, and people's ire and mob mentalities are still very real. It's sick and fascinating.

And I'm absolutely hooked.

I should be perfectly candid about where I would place these books in my mind. These aren't simple tales full of action and pathos and they don't have clear-cut plotlines for easy public consumption. They are Considered. They are very thoughtful, very mindful, and rife with classics of both literature and philosophical thought. The latest one is a modern delving and interpretation of some of the best pre-game-theory classics. And it's also heart-wrenching, but mainly for the actual effects of these Big Ideas on all the characters I've grown to love and admire. And I mean all of them.

I would place these books in my mind in the Classics category. Classic as in "This needs to be a cult favorite that gets pulled out fifty years from now with just much love and respect as I'm giving it now" kind of book.

If there's any justice in this world, Big Ideas books that are written this well should ALWAYS have staying power. And that's what I wish for it. It needs to be known and savored. We need this discussion for all our thinking selves. Seriously and honestly.

That's how this book affects me. How all of the books have affected me. Am I putting them on a very precise pedestal? Perhaps. But any winner of the Olympics ought to be respected for all the reasons behind the competition. ( )
1 abstimmen bradleyhorner | Jun 1, 2020 |
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90 points, 4 ¾ stars.

Quote:
“Hubris it is, reader, to call one’s self the most anything in history: the most powerful, the most mistreated, the most alone.”
Review:
I'm going to try and avoid spoilers for the previous two books as much as I can.

The Will to Battle is a quieter kind of mindblowing than Seven Surrenders. It actually follows a few months after the ending of the last book and a lot has happened. The world is in a difficult place, but things have calmed down a bit. Everyone is waiting. And in any case, it would be difficult for The Will to Battle to top the absolute highs of Seven Surrenders in the lull before the actual storm that is going to be the fourth and final book. I knew this was going to be a quieter book before I started it.

Yet this was so good to read. And I cannot wait for book four.

In a way, The Will to Battle was completely a different book than the previous two while also being exactly the same. How Palmer managed to pull this off, I couldn't tell you, but it is both at once. And just amazing. That is perhaps the only way to describe this book: everything is the same but different. And it is amazingly well done and just fun to read.

This goes all the way down even down to Mycroft Canner himself. He is exactly the same as the first two books, but different. In very subtle ways. At first you just think everything is fine, then you think something is a bit off. Before long you're wondering what the hell happened, what changed. It is just so, so well done. And the thing is, Mycroft told you what was happening in book one. And you just didn't listen. You never listen.

Which is basically a pattern in The Will to Battle. We're still learning what things in Too Like the Lightning meant all the way until the end of book this book. Everything is more clear by the end. Yet there is still more to go. I don't know what we're in for coming up next, all I know is that this book is leading up to that. This is about establishing lines and establishing sides. This is about the will to battle. ( )
  keikii | Jan 23, 2020 |
I really want to know what happens with this series, but I just can't with the real world right now. Putting this down about half-read, and will come back. Jo Walton commented here on Goodreads that this is meant to be a four-volume series, in two pairs, so maybe I'll pick it up again when the fourth book is about to come out.
  CiaraCat | Jan 9, 2020 |
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"The long years of near-utopia have come to an abrupt end. Peace and order are now figments of the past. Corruption, deception, and insurgency hum within the once steadfast leadership of the Hives, nations without fixed location. The heartbreaking truth is that for decades, even centuries, the leaders of the great Hives bought the world's stability with a trickle of secret murders, mathematically planned. So that no faction could ever dominate. So that the balance held. The Hives' façade of solidity is the only hope they have for maintaining a semblance of order, for preventing the public from succumbing to the savagery and bloodlust of wars past. But as the great secret becomes more and more widely known, that façade is slipping away. Just days earlier, the world was a pinnacle of human civilization. Now everyone--Hives and hiveless, Utopians and sensayers, emperors and the downtrodden, warriors and saints--scrambles to prepare for the seemingly inevitable war"--

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