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Strong Poison von Dorothy L. Sayers
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Strong Poison (Original 1930; 1987. Auflage)

von Dorothy L. Sayers

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Dashing detective Lord Peter Wimsey is caught up in the murder trial of mystery writer Harriet Vane. Her fiancé has died of poisoning exactly as described in one of Harriet's novelsâ??so naturally she is the prime suspect. As Peter looks on, he not only falls in love with the accused but eagerly helps with Harriet's defense when the first trial ends in a hung jury. Will she be convicted and executed for the crime, or can he save her life and win her hand in marriage? Strong Poison is the first of a series of Lord Peter Wimsey and Harriet Vane mysteries in which their complex romantic relationship is revealed in detail. This superb classic was originally published in 1930.… (mehr)

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Titel:Strong Poison
Autoren:Dorothy L. Sayers
Info:HarperCollins Publishers (1987), Edition: FIRST EDITIION, Paperback
Sammlungen:Deine Bibliothek
Bewertung:****
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"If anybody ever marries you, it will be for the pleasure of hearing you talk piffle." ( )
  raschneid | Dec 19, 2023 |
Good, fairly traditional, crime novel. A little jollier than I had expected. Looking forward to reading more. ( )
  thisisstephenbetts | Nov 25, 2023 |
Kind of... weird? It's written as well as you would expect from Sayers and I enjoy her characters but 1) the introduced "romance", such as it is, is kind of weird and creepy 2) the mystery isn't very exciting.

This is related to 1) and it's "spoiled" on the back cover but just in case The very first time Wimsey sees Vane, while she's imprisoned on a murder charge, he says "I want to marry you". Uhhhhhhhhhh. I think the only reason I was OK with it is because Vane is similar to Sayers - mystery writer etc - so it was like "oh if she's ok with the creepiness then fair enough". But it's a really bizarre plot, with no reason for his attraction to her or why this is a reasonable way of doing things. Given that it was the major character plot, so to speak, it bothered me

With 2, massive massive ending spoilers There are only 3 possibilities ever brought up, with no other suspects or even red herrings: Vane killed him, he committed suicide, Urquhart killed him. We know from the start the first isn't possible because it opens with the crown trying to prove it was true and Wimsey knows they're wrong (just because HE KNOWS no other reason), the second is constantly undermined with 0 evidence for it and eventually firmly disproved about halfway through, leaving the third as the only possibility. So the suspense is entirely in why and how he did it. "He did it for the inheritance" is the oldest motive in the book and becomes pretty obvious from early on but you only find out for sure late on. I didn't guess the how but I feel you could pretty definitely work it out and realise it if you have more experience with mystery/crime stuff if only as an "elimination of the impossible and whatever remains" thing. There are also a few things not explained in the end, like whether Urquhart intended to frame Vane - it feels it must have been deliberate but it's not mentioned. He'd been planning it for *years* though so it seems strange he'd have worked out who to frame for it - but the coincidental timings of attacks seem impossible otherwise. And it's not as if the earlier poisonings were at all necessary and in fact just created more suspicion. So it's weird. Not that elegant.

Other people have complained about Wimsey not always being the focus, but I like Climpson a lot - Sayers has a pretty funny and recognisable speech pattern down with the italics being surprisingly effective. Her attempts at spiritualism are funny and some of the most enjoyable parts of the book ( )
  tombomp | Oct 31, 2023 |
A nice, pacy Sayers, although there are some oddities that separate it from earlier books in the series. First, Lord Peter is in it less than, I think, any of the preceding four novels; there is a huge sidetrack with Miss Climpson, who has returned from Unnatural Death, and another smaller one with Miss Murchison, a new character - both operating as Wimsey's agents. That breaks up the story in an interesting way, but it also has the secondary effect of keeping Lord Peter at arm's length from much of the action, which is peculiar. That, combined with the metric ton of exposition right at the front of the book, might give readers the sense that they can't quite find their footing - it certainly did me. This might actually be an easier book to read the second time around.

Then there's the introduction of the much-lauded Harriet Vane. As I'm reading these chronologically, I've never "met" Harriet before, but I'm certainly aware of her importance to the series and to Lord Peter. In this book, she's largely contained to a few bantery conversations with Wimsey - while he visits her in prison! - which feels both totally artificial and so ridiculous as to almost be endearing. If Sayers didn't intend Harriet to be her "Mary Sue" - well, you couldn't tell it by this book. I don't know quite what she will be like outside of her brief appearances here, but I worry that Harriet is essentially Sayers' equivalent to Agatha Christie's Ariadne Oliver - a character Christie obviously liked more than her audience ever did. We'll see.

Of course, the introduction of Oliver came just as Christie was starting to become tired of her famous detective, Poirot, and while I can't say I think Sayers is at the same place with Wimsey, she certainly seems tired of a version of him. We can tell that because of how tired Wimsey is of himself. He's feeling his age, for once, and wondering about the inevitable transition away from playful, devil-may-care youth. In fact, he's already started transitioning without realizing it. That's interesting, and I hope Sayers keeps up the introspection rather than pushing Wimsey entirely to the side.

If I had one complaint, it's that I again find Miss Climpson fairly "full on." Sayers is obviously having a fun time writing her over-emphasized dialogue, but as so often happens, the delights of a fussy old lady character are lost on me. She's just irritating - and perhaps that's the point. She may even be Sayers' parody of someone in her life, which I could believe very easily: a frustrating personality on the surface, but a smart and loyal friend underneath.

Regardless of my little hangups, this is a good book and it's easy to get stuck in. As often happens with Sayers, there's only one real mystery to solve and a limited number of suspects, so it's perhaps more of a thriller than an outright mystery. More than anything, though, the character perspectives carry you on through. ( )
  saroz | Sep 16, 2023 |
Lord Peter is one of a kind – rich, dashing, a society fixture, heart breaker, and a bit of a mother’s boy.

This is the first of the series where Harriet Vane appears. She’s a mystery writer, charged with poisoning her ex-fiance and (oh, scandalous in 1930!) live-in lover.

And of course, Harriet's been buying arsenic and experimenting with it a bit strictly for professional reasons and had gotten rid of it long before her ex-fiance fell ill.

But if she’s to be from being hanged for murder, Peter must do it as everyone else thinks she is guilty– and along the way he loses his heart.

Fun romp - ( )
  streamsong | Sep 10, 2023 |
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"--O I dined with my sweetheart, Mother make my bed soon,
For I'm sick to the heart and I fain wad lie down."

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Dashing detective Lord Peter Wimsey is caught up in the murder trial of mystery writer Harriet Vane. Her fiancé has died of poisoning exactly as described in one of Harriet's novelsâ??so naturally she is the prime suspect. As Peter looks on, he not only falls in love with the accused but eagerly helps with Harriet's defense when the first trial ends in a hung jury. Will she be convicted and executed for the crime, or can he save her life and win her hand in marriage? Strong Poison is the first of a series of Lord Peter Wimsey and Harriet Vane mysteries in which their complex romantic relationship is revealed in detail. This superb classic was originally published in 1930.

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