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Das andere Geschlecht: Sitte und Sexus der Frau (1949)

von Simone de Beauvoir

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Reihen: The Second Sex (1-2)

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Die universelle Standortbestimmung der Frau, die aus jahrtausendealter Abhängigkeit von männlicher Vorherrschaft, aus einer übermächtigen Tradition von Schwächegefühlen ausgebrochen ist, hat seit ihrem ersten Erscheinen nicht an Gültigkeit eingebüßt. Die brillante Scharfsichtigkeit dieser grundlegenden Analyse vom weiblichen Status und Selbstverständnis in Geschichte und Gegenwart tritt in dieser Neuübersetzung noch deutlicher hervor...… (mehr)
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De Beauvoir is almost completely wrong, but this book is amazing. It is rich and very readable. ( )
  puabi | Nov 22, 2023 |
El segundo sexo es una obra clave del pensamiento, no solo feminista, sino del siglo veinte. De ella surgen los nuevos temas del feminismo, una vez agotado el periodo de las vindicaciones primordiales (derecho al voto y a la educacion). Se analiza la condicion de la mujer desde los diversos puntos de vista desde los que se la conceptualiza: ontologico, sociologico, cultural, cientifico, historico. El resumen perfecto de esta obra se refleja en su frase mas famosa: No se nace mujer: se llega a serlo. En el primer tomo se realiza un analisis regresivo. Beauvoir trato de comprender cuales son las condiciones que han hecho posible el que la mujer se considerara como el otro, realizando una especie de encuesta a las ciencias, a la historia y a la mitologia como construcciones culturales que han posibilitado esta alteridad disfuncional. En el segundo tomo describe como viven las mujeres el hecho de ser seres oprimidos, seres transcendentes que no pueden realizar su transcendencia, sino que estan relegadas a vivir en la inmanencia. Nos va explicando como la sociedad y la cultura moldean desde su infancia hasta la vejez a este ser que es la mujer a traves de la opresion para que llegue a ser lo que es."
  Natt90 | Mar 29, 2023 |
A low and long read, but worth it.

This has been on my reading list since college. I'm glad I didn't read this in college, it's way too long and I probably wouldn't have understood most of this at the time. The book makes me wish I took some kind of women's studies in college, since I'm very much interested in feminism.

Even though this is a philosophy book mainly, it does focus on female writers. She talks about a ton of writers I've read before like Virginia Woolf, Colette, George Eliot, and Dorothy Parker. There are some I've heard about, but haven't read yet. And there is a but of French writers I never heard of before. I find it helpful you know some of the people she is talking about before hand. It helps you get what her point is at time.

I like that she points out philosophy is pretty much a male dominated subject. While there are some notable female philosophers, there isn't a lot. She's not afraid to bluntly point out some sexist comments that were said by Aristotle, Plato, Freud, and Nietzsche. While I like them and wouldn't call them full on sexist, she makes a point. John Stuart Mill and Michel de Montaigne are two examples she uses as one who understood women a bit more.

While the introduction says she is Protestant, she isn't afraid to attack the Bible either. She points out several times how the Bible is wrong about women. While there are some examples or being a good women, women are always less than men. They get very little and very short chapters in the book. They usually are the Mary or the Eve character. God is a man even though women give birth, but that's all they do according to men at the time.

Besides the page numbers, the one thing I didn't like with this is when she uses numbers. She doesn't do much sourcing other than quoting works of fiction, but every now and then she quotes scientist and psychologist as well. Some of the numbers she uses seemed random to me. She didn't do a great job saying were she got them or it's unclear at times. She comes off as pseudo with science and psychology. Thankfully, the translator adds notes and a selected bibliography at the end. She even corrects her at some points.

Overall, this book is worth the read. More men should be interested in her works. Especially men into philosophy. This book might make you realize the voice of a women is just as important as the voice or a man in philosophy. It also makes you aware who is the voice in a philosophy work. ( )
  Ghost_Boy | Aug 25, 2022 |
Thus, man today represents the positive and the neuter —that is, the male and the human being— while woman represents the negative, the female.
Every time she behaves like a human being, she is declared to be identifying with the male. Her sports, her political and intellectual activities, and her desire for other women are interpreted as “masculine protest”; there is a refusal to take into account the values toward which she is transcending, which inevitably leads to the belief that she is making the inauthentic choice of a subjective attitude.
The great misunderstanding upon which this system of interpretation rests is to hold that it is natural for the human female to make a feminine woman of herself: being a heterosexual or even a mother is not enough to realize this ideal; the “real woman” is an artificial product that civilization produces the way eunuchs were produced in the past...


I’m not a fan of most non-fiction it tends to be a bit of a trudge to get through. This one, i’m assuming some of the psychological stuff is probably out of date, its also probably longer than it needs to be and uses too many examples. Especially the literary ones, i actually skimmed quite a lot of those.

Theses are very minor complaints however. The length and depth gives this a very comprehensive feel.
There were only two non-fiction books i feel had a major outlook on my comprehension of the world. The [b:Martyrdom of Man|1467199|The Martyrdom of Man|William Winwood Reade|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1348126939l/1467199._SY75_.jpg|1458115], from which i stole my user name, and one of those Introducing books on [b:Evolutionary Psychology|1803938|Introducing Evolutionary Psychology|Dylan Evans|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1387728969l/1803938._SY75_.jpg|1803140]Evolutionary Psychology.
This work is now the 3rd to be added to that. A lot of the information here feels obvious but in the same way evolution or other ideas often feel obvious once people point them out.
Its also not just about women. Because its impossible to talk about one group without putting them in context of other groups it also reveals a lot about men and other oppressed groups.

Highly recommended. Very clear, very complete, very impactful (, oh! and very depressing).


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  wreade1872 | Jul 25, 2022 |
I read this back when I was a teenager in the 50's when life as a woman was becoming visible in a disturbing way. I am more observer than participator but also a victim. I was very aware of my female place in the order of things and often despaired and the unfairness, the inequity, the vulnerability and the sheer workhorse aspect of being a woman, wife, mother and later office worker who put in the same hours for half the pay and came home to a second and third job. This book lingered and perhaps opened my eyes too far and tainted my experience of life but it was true in every aspect. With Roe vs Wade being overturned within the month, guaranteed, I am reminded of those years of terror of pregnancy and back alley abortions. Then having to fight my doctor for a tubal litigation after two abortions, one child given up for adoption and now raising two...I was thirty and he refused. I did manage to work around him and got my wish but it was another example of my having no control over or decision making over my own body. So here I am rereading and despairing once more for womankind. We accomplished so much, we fought and came so far but the machine is working to take us back in time, take away all our gains and put the next generation in chains again. ( )
  Karen74Leigh | Jun 15, 2022 |
Many of the author’s complaints against masculine oppression are justified, her observation is often acute and subtle, and her style is elegant if also slightly pretentious and often marred by unnecessary existentialist terminology. But as one reads on and on in this Black Book of the Male Terror, one becomes at first irritated and finally wearied by the unremitting whine of her special pleading. The agony is piled on until the most wholehearted believer in the equality of the sexes—as, for instance, the present reviewer—comes to suspect that the author has written the whole enormous tract out of simple resentment that she is not a man.
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“What a curse to be a woman!” Beauvoir writes, quoting Kier­kegaard. “And yet the very worst curse when one is a woman is, in fact, not to understand that it is one.” No one has done more than Beauvoir to explain the conditions of that curse, and no one has more eloquently, irately challenged us to turn that curse into a blessing.
 

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Beauvoir, Simone deHauptautoralle Ausgabenbestätigt
Borde, ConstanceÜbersetzerCo-Autoreinige Ausgabenbestätigt
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