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Didn't really like it, didn't quite finish it. Jumped around hoping to find something interesting/exciting to get me into the book, but no. Everyone has same conversations over and over. Same action over and over, same descriptions over and over. Long and tedious descriptions, repetitive and redundant. poor editing.
 
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marinaizra | 2 weitere Rezensionen | May 5, 2024 |
While I enjoy the (some would say formulaic) nature of Modesitt's "Recluce" series, its clear to see why that and his one off science fiction is really his bread and butter.
Imager is supposed to be a brand new fantasy world/epic series. What it ultimately feels like is a low stakes knock-off of his own Recluce series. We lose the overarching themes of order, chaos, and balance with nature, the interplay between those concepts and 'good' and 'evil' and motivation, and are instead left with a world and magic that feels similar but stripped of anything approaching a thought provoking ideology. Even the magic feels the sames, but with essentially no risk/reward...no intrinsically limiting factors to the otherwise mad power fantasy of this entirely internal system of magic and imagination. I'm going to read the second book, just because I have it, but I would skip this series entirely.
 
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jdavidhacker | 29 weitere Rezensionen | Mar 26, 2024 |
An oldie but a goodie. Read these back in high school, and decided to pick it back up. It starts a little slow, and it's fairly simplistic (no crazy twists, very straight forward), but there's something very satisfying about the story as it unfolds.
 
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ardaiel | 25 weitere Rezensionen | Mar 4, 2024 |
So this is book 23 of the Saga of Recluce. I faithfully read every one them, generally soon after publication, despite them having become totally predictable. Before starting this book, I've made a checklist of 23 points I expect to see based on my experience with Modesitt so far, shall we see how many can be ticked off? Note that this is book 1 of a 2 or 3 book sequence featuring Alyiakal, so some of these points may come in the sequel not this book.

1) Character studies hard, at the behest of a strict parent or guardian
2) Character studies even harder on their own account in order to get ahead
3) Character acquires considerable talent in random practical skill
4) Character enrolls in army boot camp / mage school / vocational training and resolves to work hard and succeed.
5) Character thinks about how much money they have / are paid
6) Character acquires copy of Book of Magic
7) Character eats spicy food and finds it tasty but slightly too hot
8) Character meets their one true love interest, and subsequently never looks twice at any other person
9) Character expresses a preference for either a) lager or b) dark ale, in contrast to their companions
10) Character meets their first antagonist, a stronger mage / solider / scholar whom they have to
placate.
11) Character eats a meal in a restaurant with a) table service and b) tipping, and overhears snippets of a conversation about them
12) Character reads a paragraph of their book, pauses to think, nods slowly in understanding, and goes back to reading
13) Character discovers / teaches themselves some magic skill that is lost / unknown to the wider group
14) Character is involved in some fight / contest
15) Character sadly and reluctantly decides they need to murder someone
16) Character sneaks around, breaks into somewhere, murders one or more people, and gets away with it
17) Character is promoted
18) Character is placed in a position of responsibility and succeeds in part thanks to the random practical skill acquired in their childhood, but mostly because of their diligent attitude and hard work
19) Character discovers some threat / menace / obstacle to progress of society, and sadly and reluctantly decides they need to kill a large number of people in order to stop it
20) Character flights a large group of people, wiping out an army / fleet and kills one or more powerful mages
21) Character permanently changes climate / geography / fundamental nature of the world
22) Character founds new society (or fundamentally changes existing one)
23) Character settles down peacefully with one true love

And for the outcome: spoilers, obviously, to follow!

... spoilers coming....

1) Character studies hard, at the behest of a strict parent or guardian
Yes, chapter 1

2) Character studies even harder on their own account in order to get ahead
Yes, chapter 2

... Modesitt's characters are always so *dutiful*. They never take a day off, or give up on a hard, thankless job for which they receive nothing but hostility and being put in threatening situations where they might die. Alyiakal's motivation in this book is particularly unclear, it's just taken for granted that he's enrolled in the army and will strive to get ahead. Why, exactly? Why doesn't he just drop out at the earliest opportunity and work in a shop or something? One might argue he's driven by his father but Alyiakal hardly thinks about him, social pressures are presumably present but hardly mentioned, by the middle of the book he has no family and few friends and none of them put any pressure on him... presumably he's read the earlier books and knows he's going to end up as Emperor so has to put the hours in to get there?

3) Character acquires considerable talent in random practical skill
Yes, first in chapter 5 he shows a bit of skill in drawing that comes in useful when he needs to make maps, but then later in chapter 15 acquiring healing skills fits this one even better.

4) Character enrolls in army boot camp / mage school / vocational training and resolves to work hard and succeed.
Yes, chapter 8

5) Character thinks about how much money they have / are paid
Yes, chapter 11, but actually Alyiakal makes almost no mention of money in this book, since he spends almost all his time in the army and doesn't need to buy anything except gifts for his significant other. So only half a point.

6) Character acquires copy of Book of Magic
Yes, Chapter 1, although he rarely refers to it afterwards preferring to learn his magic by deduction and experimentation, something I really should have anticipated by reference to books 2,3,4,5,6,7,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18, 19, and 22, whose characters do the same. Only half a point here.

7) Character eats spicy food and finds it tasty but slightly too hot
Yes, chapter 9

8) Character meets their one true love interest, and subsequently never looks twice at any other person
Yes, but...

... I had hopes for this one being a break from Modesitt's normal troupe. Alyiakal meets a girl in chapter 2 who is interesting and obviously unsuitable for a future Emperor. Is there actually going to be a bit of drama coming up? He even sleeps with her, which is rare for a Modesitt character before the midpoint of the novel. But then [sigh] she disappears from the narrative, and we're back to normal Modesitt mode in chapter 9, when Alyiakal starts corresponding with some girl and of course she turns into the typical Modesitt love interest, strong and independent whilst being of course totally driven in her own area, paired up with the main character through a sense of mutual respect and complete lack of any sense of humor or indeed any character trait at all beyond diligent hard work and loyalty to family.

I know one shouldn't make inferences about the author from their work, but I'd be prepared to bet that Modesitt has been happily married since the early 90s when the series started, to a partner he loves and respects and who respects him, and has never looked twice at anyone else. It's all so *wholesome*. Even when one of his characters does sleep around a bit (Rahl in book 14), he stops by chapter 2 and later enters a respectful monogamous relationship with a woman who works diligently in her own field to become competent and respected, and.... you get the idea.

Anyway Alyiakal and his utterly forgettable hardworking and diligent friend are not yet a couple, so perhaps in book 2 something will happen to disrupt the normal path? Maybe she'll be run over by a cart, or kidnapped by pirates, and Alyiakal will end up with someone more interesting? One can but hope...

9) Character expresses a preference for either a) lager or b) dark ale, in contrast to their companions
No! Real shocker here in chapter 9, he prefers wine to either!!

10) Character meets their 1st antagonist, a stronger mage / solider / scholar whom they have to
placate.
Yes, chapter 8 (with the person becoming hostile in chapter 11), but the character then disappears from the narrative, leaving the playoff for the sequel. I'd put money on them turning out to be a traitor though, since they a) have an unfair advantage in getting ahead and b) sleep around - both sure signs of being a Bad Person in Modesitt's world.

11) Character eats a meal in a restaurant with a) table service and b) tipping, and overhears snippets of a conversation about them
Yes, but in two parts, chapter 20 for the overhearing about themselves whilst eating, but in an officer's mess not a restaurant, while the table service and tipping comes in chapter 46.

(Seriously, has Modesitt never been somewhere where tipping is not polite or expected? Never set foot in a McDonald's or somewhere you need to order at the counter?)

12) Character reads a paragraph of their book, pauses to think, nods slowly in understanding, and goes back to reading
No - as per point 6, Alyiakal doesn't really get his learning from books.

13) Character discovers / teaches themselves some magic skill that is lost / unknown to the wider group
Yes, hints of it in chapter 31, and then breakthroughs start in chapter 52.

14) Character is involved in some fight / contest
Yes, chapters 11,15,23,27-28, then I gave up tracking.

15) Character sadly and reluctantly decides they need to murder someone
Not yet. But I'm pretty sure this will come in the sequel.

16) Character sneaks around, breaks into somewhere, murders one or more people, and gets away with it
Chapter 24 for sneaking about, the rest I'm sure will come in the sequel.

17) Character is promoted
Yes, chapter 36, although (strangely) it's not directly mentioned. And then again in chapter 98.

18) Character is placed in a position of responsibility and succeeds in part thanks to the random practical skill acquired in their childhood, but mostly because of their diligent attitude and hard work
Yes, the 20s. And all through the book, basically.

19) Character discovers some threat / menace / obstacle to progress of society, and sadly and reluctantly decides they need to kill a large number of people in order to stop it
Not yet, almost certainly the sequel.

20) Character flights a large group of people, wiping out an army / fleet and kills one or more very powerful mages
Not yet, almost certainly the sequel.

21) Character permanently changes climate / geography / fundamental nature of the world
Not yet, possibly the sequel.

22) Character founds new society (or fundamentally changes existing one)
Not yet, almost certainly the sequel.

23) Character settles down peacefully with one true love
Not yet, almost certainly the sequel.

So, final score:
- Hits: 12 and 2 half points
- Misses: 2 (Alyiakal didn't read his book and nod slowly, and he prefers wine to ale)
- Waiting for the sequel: 7

...and yet, somehow, I still enjoy reading these books? Even I'm not even sure why, at this point.½
 
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MisterJJones | 1 weitere Rezension | Mar 2, 2024 |
Potentially interesting story, tediously told. I gave up on it. There really seemed to me only enough material to make a compelling novella. All attempts by Modesitt to create tension and suspense failed. The pacing creeps and he falls into repetitive narrative loops.
 
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Treebeard_404 | 4 weitere Rezensionen | Jan 23, 2024 |
Another riveting episode in the history of Cyador.

There are times when I wish I were not such a quick reader. Why? Because I truly think Modesitt’s works are to be savoured and reflected upon. Weaving the lines of connecting characters both major and minor are to be well explored. But alas, I become totally engrossed and couldn’t slow down. I needed to continue, to see what was around the corner.
After reading the chat forum on Modesitt’s home page my understanding deepened. Thank you!(https://www.lemodesittjr.com/2022/03/15/20022/ ) One member, Bill M. pointed out where Modesitt has cross referenced his new book “From the Forest” with Magi’i of Cyador where the Emperor Alyiakal is a footnote in the history books of Cyad.
“Despite his many successes in establishing the current borders of modern Cyador, and his formalization of the balanced power structure that has come to govern Cyador, he has become the “One Never to be Mentioned” among the Magi’i and Mirror Lancers of Cyad.” (Magi’i of Cyador XIII p.56)
I raced to hold the plot together, whilst continually wondering what would come next. When I arrived at the end I found myself desperate for the next book in the series, but settled for taking up a reread of the Magi’i of Cyad titles arc.
In ‘From the Forest’ Alyiakal is being tutored by a white mage in the hopes of him evincing some Magi’i aptitudes. His father is a Mirror Lancer Majer who has risen through the ranks. He hopes for more for his son. Alyiakal has some slight aptitude for healing. He’s grown up in Jakaafra, an area bordering the Accursed Forest. He’s interacted with the Forest and people who belong there. Does this awaken his senses? Maybe! It does make for very interesting suppositions.
During his Mirror Lance training, he studies with a healer who sees that he’s more than thought. The healer advises Alyiakal to strengthen his wards, even to develop wards within wards.
Whilst training as a Mirror Lancer Alyiakal befriends Hyrsaal. Hyrsaal suggests he correspond with his bored, much younger and inquisitive sister Saelora. They correspond over the years.
Alyiakal is eventually posted to an Undercaptain position in a remote area at Pemedra near the border with Kyphros, fighting barbarians.
At Pemedra, Alyiakal discovers a road of the First Ones that has been forgotten, or deliberately let slide from memory, and Kyphran raiders holding down ruins that First One’s machinery is hidden in.
Things become challenging. Alyiakal wonders if he’ll be conveniently killed or shipped off.
The ties between merchants, mirror lancers, and magi’i for many are those of greed and power. A far cry from what Alyiakal sees as his role.
On the more personal front, I love the deferential way Alyiakal interacts with Saelora who becomes a fully fledged merchanter. Something rare for a woman.
I absolutely loved From the Forest! This is the first episode of Alyiakal—of his journey somehow from Mirror Lancer to Emperor.
I couldn’t put it down! Another intriguing, full to over flowing, page turner from Modesitt!

A Tor ARC via NetGalley.
Many thanks to the author and publisher.
 
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eyes.2c | 1 weitere Rezension | Jan 21, 2024 |
This is a very slow read. The author has created an interesting and VERY detailed world for this story but the amount of detail that goes into every aspect of this story is a little overwhelming. I found that I could skip entire pages and not miss a single aspect of the story, I would only miss the detailed description of the silverware at dinner, or the understanding of how government works that isn’t really an aspect of the plot. I found the magic interesting but lacking, the concept of being able to imagine anything and will it to happen has potential but when put into practice the users best choice is to will an air bubble into someone’s blood or place oil in front of someone who is running. Then the ending of the book is also lacking on the BIG BANG conclusion, you flip thru pages and pages of trying to determine who is out to kill the main character and within a couple turns of the page it’s all over and isn’t’ really all that fantastic.
 
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MattKeevil | 29 weitere Rezensionen | Jan 5, 2024 |
I felt like I was reading someone's diary... someone who documented ever day, even if it was boring. These books have really gone down hill for me, I just find them harder and harder to read.
 
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MattKeevil | 8 weitere Rezensionen | Jan 5, 2024 |
Modesitt keeps writing the same book over and over, and I keep reading it.
 
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danielskatz | 2 weitere Rezensionen | Dec 26, 2023 |
It's like eating candy - you know it's not really good for you, but it's really hard to stop.
 
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danielskatz | 5 weitere Rezensionen | Dec 26, 2023 |
Still amazingly formulaic, but both compelling and comfortable nonetheless
 
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danielskatz | 1 weitere Rezension | Dec 26, 2023 |
I am going to say that this book isn’t for everyone. Hell, it wasn’t for me the first two times I tried to read it. This time though I plowed through it. It is not a fast paced book and spends a lot of time in philosophy and world building. I think the pace was what through me the first couple of times but for some reason I was in the right frame of mind and could not put it down.
 
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cdaley | 29 weitere Rezensionen | Nov 2, 2023 |
A sci-fi bureaucratic mystery novel, starring an ecologist, based on a painting. I liked it, but it could have used more thorough editing - some of the author's conventions for first-person perspective got stale.
 
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mmparker | 2 weitere Rezensionen | Oct 24, 2023 |
The Order War is the 4th volume in the Recluse Saga and I think that they are getting better with each one. I very much like the everyday niceness of the interactions among some character relationships. It makes the buildup to the climax that much more interesting in the sense of the Recluse heroes are everyday people placed into extraordinary circumstances and they have to muddle their way through. Just like most of us do with our own everyday lives. What makes these ordinary folks heroes in this saga is that they make the tough choices required to accomplish what needs to be done. I like that sense of the real everyday in a fantasy novel.
 
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Neil_Luvs_Books | 7 weitere Rezensionen | Oct 2, 2023 |
 
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OChiron | 27 weitere Rezensionen | Sep 22, 2023 |
 
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OChiron | 13 weitere Rezensionen | Sep 22, 2023 |
 
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OChiron | 4 weitere Rezensionen | Sep 22, 2023 |
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I really enjoyed the book. It was a fun read, fast paced, and had some memorable characters. This is the first book I've read in the series and I like the fact you can pick any book in the series up and enjoy it on it's own.
 
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ladyoflorien | 27 weitere Rezensionen | Aug 11, 2023 |


This was an interesting, almost old fashioned, hard science novel. Don't misunderstand, there are a few real people in this, and even a romance, to go along with the math.

Through a fairly believable set of preconditions, the majority of the character interaction is through text messages. It heightens the focus and pushes the plot along nicely, but seems a bit forced at times.

The world building is handled by that same device, a series of news articles interspersed with everything else. It always left me wanting more.

Overall, it was easy to read and kept me turning pages to find out what happens yet.

Oddly though, it's just full of, well, "hanging chad".
There are all these little hints to where the book is going, that are just dropped and never heard from again. It must have been deliberate, but I found it disappointing.

All in all, not life changing, but enjoyable.
 
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furicle | 4 weitere Rezensionen | Aug 5, 2023 |
Doing a re-read of these in the publication order as I've acquired some hardback editions.
This is second of two books focusing on Justen, and are really the first two that are as strong as my childhood memories recall. The initial books in the series have much weaker writing than I remembered. So The Magic Engineer plus The Order War are nice turning points.
Also, there's some neat stuff here that seems pretty topical in that it relates to the mutual/community aid movement today as well as the permaculture practices that are starting to get a new day in the sun.
 
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jdavidhacker | 7 weitere Rezensionen | Aug 4, 2023 |
I can see the seeds of themes that would later appear in other works like the Recluce saga in this. However, I've tried to read this twice, and it feels like an early, clumsy effort compared to so much of Modesitt's later work that I enjoy so much. The dialogue feels stilted and unrealistic, and the narrative is pretty jumpy.
 
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jdavidhacker | 4 weitere Rezensionen | Aug 4, 2023 |
Four hundred years after the founding of Solidar and Imagisle, no one remembers the power and purpose of the founder. The Rex, the Marshall of the Armies, the high holders and factors all look down upon the much weakened Collegium. Alastar. a powerful imager, is brought in from Antiago to replace the dying Maitre and rebuild the reputation and strength of Imagers before it's too late.
 
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cfk | 3 weitere Rezensionen | Jul 7, 2023 |