2024*2: LizzieD at Home with a Book

Nothing much going here yet.

READ IN APRIL
16. Betrayal in Death
17. Common People
18. Rotherweird
19. Great Expectations: The Sons and Daughters of Charles Dickens
20. Like the Appearance of Horses*
21. Damaged Like Us

Into the House in April
28. Cities that Built the Bible - Kindle deal through BookBub
29. The Ancient Roman Afterlife - Kindle deal through BookBub
30. Wellington: The Years of the Sword - AMP
31. Poor Deer - Kindle deal
32. Semiosis - PBS
33. The Power of Babel - AMP
34. Our Magnificent Bastard Tongue - AMP
35. Dickens's Dictionary of London- Kindle
36. Brotherless Night - Kindle deal through BookBub
37. Derring-Do for Beginners - Kindle
38. Saint Elspeth - Kindle
39. Damaged Like Us ✔ - Kindle

READ IN MAY

Into the House in May
40. Under the Dome - AMP
41. James
42. Floating Hotel
43. Vermeer's Hat - AMP
44. Cold Welcome - AMP

*review on book page

OPEN FOR READING IN APRIL


(Just because they're open doesn't necessarily mean that I'm going to get to them this month.) (This is such a joke. Maybe this will be the year I actually read *Life* --- maybe not. I do live and read in hope!)

BEST OR MOST MEMORABLE OF THE FIRST QUARTER!

The Marriage Portrait*
The Man Who Died Twice
The Debatable Land
Resurgence
Covenant of Water

Rockton series + Haven's Rock series
Greenwing and Dart series

Happy new thread Lizzie!

Why, thank you, Lily! I don't have a crown for you, but I appreciate the visit.

>6 LizzieD: Thats totally fine, and im glad you appreciate my visit before your thread hits off to a lot of messages.

Happy new thread Peggy!

>3 LizzieD: A Memory of Light really is the Last Battle.

Happy New Thread, Peggy!

Happy New Thread, Peggy and happy reading ahead!

Lovely to see a new thread from you dear Peggy. xx

Happy new thread, Peggy!
(((hugs)))

Happy new thread.

'Morning, my dear Peggy. I was glad to read that your family and friends were there for you at your mama's service on your first thread, thanks for posting.

I guess I need to write down a few of the things I want and a few of the things I DON'T WANT for any service for me. I have two favorite hymns, How Great Thou Art, and Just As I Am - heard them at chapel in my freshman year at Pepperdine. The first works for a non-Christian, the second doesn't, but I love it any way.

I need to get going - I've got a massage soon and a bit of grocery shopping to get done besides all the usual stuff.

Much love!

>3 LizzieD: Well, I am glad to see that The Warburgs is at least open :)

>4 LizzieD: Adding The Debatable Land to the BlackHole. Thanks, Peggy!

Happy new thread! ((Hugs))

I love new thread visits! Thank you, Stasia (you can thank Lucy for reading *DLand* first), Karen, Anita, Anita! (y'all can decide which Anita is which), Paul, Deborah, Roni, and Susan. *HUGS* to you every single one, and Lily too!

Karen, I'm glad that you will give people an opportunity to sing at your service, far far far into the future though it be, please!

I am going to try to do a few more positive things today and then stop early to nap and read. That's my style.

Wordle 1,020 3/6*

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Peggy, I can't stop thinking about church music for some reason. My mom was Catholic so I grew up in the Catholic church, but "defected" to my dad's Presbyterian church in high school. When you first mentioned "Holy Holy Holy" all I could remember was a rather blah congregational hymn sung at mass. Yesterday out of nowhere I remembered later (as a Presbyterian) singing a version with an amazing descant on the last verse. Magnificent.

I hope your day is going well and that you get your well-deserved nap.

Happy new thread, Peggy! I hope you had a great nap this afternoon. I felt like one at midday, but had lunch instead and read afterward.

Laura, you have quite an interesting history of churching. I can't tell you how badly I wanted to sing that *Holy* descant, but I was able to restrain myself.

Hi, Irene. The nap was from 7:30 to 8:00 and still refreshing. I'm amazed at how early it is for me to be here. I'll visit a minute and then get to read some before getting another good night's sleep.

>19 LizzieD: Restraint was probably a good idea, Peggy. Just to clarify, my first experience with the descant was hearing the choir do it during the service. I sang in the choir for several years, but as an alto. I enjoyed singing harmony (and still do so if there's a hymnal with music notation in the pew), but altos never get the fun descants.

Have a great day ...

‘Morning, Peggy! I hope your day goes well.

>16 LizzieD: I didn’t make time to mention that I didn’t know that How Great Thou Art was my maternal grandmother’s favorite hymn until her funeral. When the minister said that, I started crying. Thank goodness my Uncle Doug has a pack of tissues!

Yes, I have always said that to me ‘old’ is 90s. I’m more careful of my body now, and plan on living well into those 90s.

That you’re doing positive things to take care of yourself makes me happy.

Wordle in 4 for me today.

Happy new thread, Peggy!

I can't believe it. I wrote a long message to Laura and Karen and a word of thanks to Jim - previewed a link, and when I came back, the post was gone. I'll know not to do that again. I just can't duplicate it now. Poooo.

Wordle 1,021 3/6*

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>20 lauralkeet: I agree completely. I also sing alto, and I sing harmony if there's a hymnal. Somehow I need to both hear the parts and see the music to do well singing the harmony. But one of the reasons I love Holy, Holy, Holy is that it's one of the few hymns that has a great alto part.

>23 LizzieD: I know how frustrating that is. More than once I've worked on a long post, previewed it, hit a link to make sure it was working, and came back only to find that the post was gone. If I remember to right click and open in a new tab it's OK, but if I forget that, poof! It's very frustrating, so you have my sympathies.

'Morning, my dear Peggy.

I've lost a fair few messages over the years, too.

Wordle in 4 for me today. Congrats on yesterday's 3.

Good morning, dear Karen! My run of 4s and 3s ended today as I waded in alphabet soup and barely made it out.

Good morning, Irene and Laura! I'll at least try to post my favorite anthem again with the glorious descant, which I love to sing, and its simple, lovely ending. If I decide to test the link, I'll copy this #())@#$&*^&!!! post first. Oh well. I was born a first soprano in quality and range, but I've sung alto and tenor in the church choir before settling into second, the hardest voice for me to hear. (Ah well. If I'm harmonizing freely, I tend to sing a bass line an octave higher....) I love to rehearse second and perform first. Oddly enough, I've never met a choir director who would let me do that.

My Song is Love Unknown This is a newer setting of a 17th century poem by Samuel Crossman. The composer is Edwin Childs; the better known version is by John Ireland.

Thank you for the visit, Jim. I'm ever grateful to be here!

Wordle 1,022 5/6*

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'Morning, Peggy!

Glad you made it out of Wordle intact, as it were.

I'll have to get back to your link. I'm heading over to book sale setup this morning, masked, of course, with the triple goal of seeing Jenna, saying hi to the book sort team, and getting a book fix.

Good afternoon, Karen! I made it to SS and church this morning, masked, of course - the only mask. I know you're having fun cruising the sale and seeing Jenna. It was sweet for me to be in church.

Wordle! I would never have gotten this one without a list. I don't think of this as an English word. The abomination (walla) is English. So much for what I think!

Wordle 1,023 5/6*

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>28 LizzieD: Walla isn't a real word, is it? I've seen it only a few times, and I always thought it was because the people using it were ignorant, and had misunderstood voila. I got Wordle in 4 today, thanks to a good guess on 3. It was the only word I could think of that would fit. But I was honestly surprised to see it, since it isn't originally English. I guess it's used enough now to count as English?

>28 LizzieD: I was annoyed by the non-English word too, Peggy, although it's been pointed out to me that many of us (myself included) have used ADIEU as a starting word and Wordle accepts that, so why not other foreign words that are commonly used by English-speaking folk? All the same, hubby and I both cried foul on today.

>29 atozgrl: That's what I've always thought too, Irene.

We're in harmony here, Irene and Laura. The language changes, and the abomination is used enough that I'd be surprised if it were not in a current dictionary. It was certainly on the list I used. I should look it up to see, I guess. I'm feel a rant coming on in the matter of language change, so I'm leaving. (I'm particularly unhappy with young women's pronunciation closing a long A to almost a long E, etc. "We got the peent on sell, and we'll start at tyoo." How are their children going to learn to read????)

>31 LizzieD: I didn't see it when I tried looking online earlier today. If it is in the dictionary, it is indeed an abomination. And I keep hearing pronunciations in the last 10 years or so that I never heard when I was young. (Some of which seem to be British pronunciations--how did they infiltrate the US?) I don't really know what's going on these days.

(((((Peggy)))))

Yay for SS and church. I mask, too, and did so yesterday at the book sale set up. I only stayed 45 minutes, saying hi to folks but not really feeling the books. I’m so glad you’re able to go to church now.

It is not an English word, but mispronouncing it as voy-la or even worse, of course, walla is definitely an abomination. You think right!

Wordle in 3 or me today.

The only thing that keeps me sane about language usage is listening to John McWhorter’s The Story of Human Language once every three years or so. I’m less rigid in what I think of as proper English, but do admit that I’ve never been an English teacher.

We are 3 Sisters again, (((((Karen))))), the two of us. Irene????

Wordle 1,024 3/6*

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You got me. I've just ordered used copies of 2 McWhorters, *Babel* and *Bastard*. My go-to man has been S. Pinker, but I'm eager to try JMcW.

ETA: Speaking of *Babel*, I'm sneak-reading the R.F. Kuang of that name and am quite taken with it a very little way in. I think that it will replace Rotherweird when I've read the second half.

Happy new thread!

It is good that you will be able to go out more now.

We're all very excited up here to have a sunny day for the eclipse!

>34 LizzieD: Yes, it was Wordle in 3 for me today too.

We had a gorgeous day today, perfect temperatures with nary a cloud in the sky. It's a pity we had only a partial eclipse; it would have been perfect for totality.

Happy New Thread (imagine that sung in perfect harmony!). Glad the mask is enabling you to get out. : )

Hi, Kim! Thanks for the visit (in perfect harmony -- I'm probably singing something like a bass line an octave or so higher)!

So, Irene, we are truly 3 Sisters. We wouldn't have noticed the eclipse if we hadn't been looking for it. Our temp dropped about 3 degrees as it grew a bit less sunny, but that's all. We did see totality back in '70, whatever that date was. It was as magnificent as everybody says.

Off to look at Lucy's eclipse experience!

'Morning, Peggy!

Bill took a few photos. The eclipse was subtle here, too. Our friend Todd went to Ohio to see it, and being a photographer, got some gorgeous photos.

Wordle in 4 today.

Good morning to you too, Karen.

My stay in 3-country was short-lived.

Wordle 1,025 5/6*

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*smoochiesmoochsmooch*

*smooches* right back, O Richard!

COMMON PEOPLE by Alison Light

I've read bits of Henry Mayhew's book about the work of London's poor, but I've never read anything quite like this history of Alison Light's own family. Her father's people were "just folks" (to quote my college roommate's father about my parents), agricultural workers and needle makers in 17th century England. They moved where they could find work until bricklayers among the men settled in Portsmouth. They were a solid working-class family. Her mother's people were another story. The most financially successful were still barely on the margins of security. They lived in the Portsmouth slums, and somebody from every generation spent at least a few months in the workhouse. Two of the women even died as pauper inmates in insane asylums. In finding her people, Light also uncovers a more intimate description of how poor people lived. I found her history both sad and inspiring.

>38 LizzieD: My Internet has been down most of the day today. Finally getting around to a few threads.

The temperature drop here was noticeable yesterday. The sun was hot on my back when I went out to get the mail, around the time that the moon started to cross in front of the sun. By the time of the greatest coverage, it was cooler, and I didn't feel any heat from the sun on my back.

You got to see a total eclipse? I'm so jealous! I have always wanted to see one, and have seen several partial eclipses, but never totality. I had hoped to be able to travel somewhere this year to see it, but with my DH's knee surgery, that was out.

I saw a couple of mentions on the news yesterday of people seeing a total eclipse here in NC many years ago. It's so frustrating. I grew up in Illinois, and I know we had at least a couple of partial eclipses then, because I remember the school activities of making a pinhole viewer, or one from a cereal box. So you all must have gotten totality then when we had a partial eclipse. The one yesterday, I looked at a good map of the path of totality online, and my hometown was just barely outside the path. So there you would only have to go a few miles to be in the path, and wouldn't have to drive very far to have gotten to a spot in the middle of the path. In other words, if I were in my hometown yesterday, I could have seen it, but I was here in NC. But if I'd been in NC when I was young, instead of Illinois, I could have seen one here. I guess now I'll have to find an eclipse cruise or some such thing if I ever hope to see a total eclipse.

Wordle in 5 for me today too, after we finally got our Internet back.

I hear your eclipse frustration, Irene. Missing totality twice is bad. It is worth a great deal of trouble, but we had only to drive out to my family's farm to stand in a field with an unobstructed view of the shadow lines that were at least as eerie and fascinating as totality itself. An eclipse at sea would be something else!!!!!

Wordle 1,026 4/6*

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Hi Peggy! Happy Wednesday to you.

I got lucky, with the help of my spreadsheets, and got Wordle in 2.

Other than that, lazy day with reading, puttering and soccer at 3.

edited to add:

Happy Thursday, my dear.

Wordle in 3 today. It's the first day of the book sale I'm not going to, so am a tad melancholy.

Hi, 3 Sister. That's all I know. I need to finish Mama's taxes, look for her safety box keys (NOT where I thought they were for years and years, NOT in any other likely place. Oh dear)(Any Suggestions?), and keep an appointment for a mammogram this afternoon. Enough said.

Wordle 1,027 3/6*

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Hmmm. Safety box keys. A little box? Jewelry box? Purse? Pocket of an item of clothing? Behind something on a shelf? Between mattress and box springs?

Ugh. Taxes, and mammogram appointment. Not a fun day at all. (((((Peggy)))))

>46 LizzieD: On a nail in a closet? Taped to the underside of the desk or the back of a drawer? In an envelope marked "Safe deposit keys", which is in plain sight somewhere and so easily overlooked? (I have looked right over the VERY THING I WANT so many times...) In YOUR safety box? Good luck.

I'm voting for the jewelry box or nail-in-closet ideas, Peggy. Mama had stuff squirreled away in those places, too.

Good luck! *smooch*

Thank you for all the suggestions, Richard, Linda, and Karen. I thought it was in the drawer of her bedside table. That's where I keep mine because it was where I am pretty sure Mama kept hers. I'm very much afraid that she used the key some years ago when she was still driving and forgot to return it to the drawer. That means a pocket or an old pocket book or her gym bag. Oh Lord. I'm hoping against hope to find it in an envelope in the other drawer where she kept her important papers.

I hope the treasure hunt is successful today, Peggy.

Wordle in 4 for me. It's how I feel today.

I think it will have to stay where it is today, Karen. I've packaged the audio CDs and bulletins from my mama's service for the cousins who couldn't attend, and I think that's all I'll do today. I can see myself polishing off Rotherweird today, maybe.... (It is more than "rather" weird.)

I didn't do Wordle yet.... Let me take care of that.

ETA: Wordle 1,028 4/6*

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Just dropping by to wish you a great weekend, dear Peggy.

Hi Peggy. It is a beautiful Carolina blue sky day 'up north' here...

Wordle in 3 for me today. I hope you get a chance to rest and recuperate and read today in addition to all the things that need attention.

Many hugs to you and kind regards to your DH.

Many thanks for good wishes, dear Karen and dear Paul!

We're enjoying beautiful Carolina blue skies 'down south' here... I thought I'd get those packages mailed today along with Mama's federal tax listing, but that's not happening now. Monday is the 15th, eh? Good grief.

Wordle 1,029 2/6* WOOO! HOOOOOO! Love my first word today!

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>55 LizzieD: Since my first word is an anagram of yours, I was also able to get it in 2 today. That's fun!

Good luck getting everything done that you need to get done. I know it's a lot of work. Take some time for yourself too.

GOOD for us, Irene! I do prefer my arrangement of the letters to the more common one because I can be pretty sure of a final "e" if my combo is wrong. At any rate, we get there all the same. Yay Us!!!

This was a frustrating day, but I did manage to plow through some paperwork and spend a non-fruitful hour looking for that blessed safety box key. I also took time to finish a book, and that's always satisfying even if the book wasn't completely so.

ROTHERWEIRD by Andrew Caldecott

Jonah Oblong is hired to teach history to the 4th form of the Rotherweird village school, but he's not allowed by law to refer to anything before 1800. The village is cut off from the rest of England, and is a weird combination of Brigadoon-like surface smugness and cutting edge science. Oblong arrives at a crisis point when the whole thing will either begin a new age or fail entirely.

I should have loved it, but I didn't. I didn't hate it, but I never connected with even one character. I'm mildly curious about what happens in the second book of the trilogy, but I probably won't care enough to pursue it. It was OK. I didn't mind finishing it. Oh well.

Wordle in 2 , Peggy! Excellent! It took me 4 tries.

Congrats in Wordle in 2!

I got it in 3 today, and it's another beautiful Carolina blue skies day.

>57 LizzieD: Hiya smoochling...I, like you, wanted to love Rotherweird but found it Rotherdull.

Love and hugs!

When you and I both react negatively to a book, that's probably a death knell, Richard. *smooch* Better things coming up!

Ah well, Karen and Deborah. Wordle inspiration comes and goes. 4 for me today, and I had to reuse a rejected letter to get a jump-start on finishing it.

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I've been moving books back home from Mama's, accumulated over there for four years. I found The Dickens Boy, which I think I'll read next - except that I also found Great Expectations: The Sons and Daughters of Charles Dickens that I'll sneak in first. I've been sneak-reading Babel and liking it, so up it goes, and I really really need to finish Like the Appearance of Horses. It is really good, but I'm depressed by it and read it only by fits and starts.

ETA: I completely forgot my current nonfiction, Britain BC. I love Francis Pryor, and I'm enjoying the book a lot!

Sheesh. How I struggled with this one!!!

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🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩least, noire, wifey, equip I finally got it on my own. I guess that's something.

On the phone with the last 2 of Mama's financial people. It all sounds easy enough at the moment. Now, that @(*()@#^&^ safety box key.

Peggy, I didn't want to cause you heart failure when you see the news on my thread...you're not losing your marbles: I am reading a poetry book for my annual self-test of intolerance to the stuff. No Charity in the Wilderness: Poems from the University of Nevada Press...I'm sure as heck not gonna BUY one, and these good folk have auto approved me on Netgalley, so...they, in the long run, get the blame or the praise.

Thank you kindly for your concern, Richard. Probably well placed! What a curious choice! *I* think you'd do better to read The Never-Open Desert Diner, which I liked well enough to start the sequel this month, Lullaby Road. I'm not reading poetry right now. Today I didn't read anything. *sigh*
But a *smooch* for you.

‘Morning, Peggy!

You’ve got so many things to do re your mama’s house and etc. Financial people are so not fun – as you know we had our dealings with them Friday and yesterday. I hope things are getting resolved.

Depending on how long you can wait to get into your mama’s safety deposit box, you might need to get it drilled out. We’ve had to do that, and it’s not cheap, but sometimes necessary.

In foodstuffs in the kitchen? Taped to the back of the toilet? Inside a Bible? Other book? In her recliner? Is there a drawer with lots of unidentified keys? Tucked between mattress and box springs?

Wordle again in 3 for me. I’m on a roll – of course, as soon as I say that it’s jinxed.

Don't be jinxed, Karen. You roll on! I don't mind my 4 today since my second word was a winner by luck...
Wordle 1,032 4/6*

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I have now 82 or 3 days to find that key. Mama was well-organized and thoughtful. It would have been very uncharacteristic of her to hide it at all. There is a ring of unidentified small keys in the right drawer, and I should check it again just to be sure I didn't miss the right one. I'm told that the drilling will be about $500. There's certainly nothing in the box worth that much unless Daddy had a brilliant coin or two that I don't know about.

I wish us both a more peaceful day.

>21 karenmarie: Karen, My grandmother's favorite hymn was How Great Thou Art. I'm thinkiong about her a lot. She died this time of year, and was was the single most person who was a loving presence in my life. She taught me about patience, love, and forgiveness (of which I thought she forgave so many wrong actions done to her.)

During her graveside service, my friends sang How Great Thou Art. The small town where she is buried overlooks the mountains. A small town needed to drive through to get to where she lived, was called Wind Gap. It was call such because years and years ago the formation of a dip in the mountains was becaue of the weathering that occurred for many years.

The day of her service was perfect. The sun was bring, the air clear and lovely and it was such a perfect day to honor her.

Peggy, I hope you find the key you need to find. I will always remember the love, patience and kindess you gave to your beloved mother.

'Morning, my dear. I hope there's some you time today.

Wordle in 4 for me today, with no yellows. I love seeing the patterns.

Good morning, Karen. I'll go look at your pattern! I checked a word list after #3 to get it in 4. *sigh*
The morning has become my time, but I have to jump on stuff right away. This is a lot more fun than stuff.

Wordle 1,033 4/6*

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Cleaning out one of my drawers today (Did Mama give me the second key to the safety deposit box? It's been almost 44 years since I'm sure we opened it, and I have no recollection), I found another short list of student howlers. I'm happy to dole them out to you one by one or two today.

Senior classes were still going to DC and NYC when a student wrote this:
"We saw the Lincoln Memorial, the Jefferson Monument, and a real live prostitute."

I also found the original that I've been quoting a bit in error: "I am a very smart person and i believe in myself, i have very high self-a-steem."

'Morning, Peggy.

Wordle in 5 today. Sigh.

I always love the student howlers.

Side-tracked, Karen, and this isn't my best 4-solve.

Wordle 1,034 4/6*

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O.K. This is an ESL student, and I'm guessing it's from mishearing rather than dyslexia, not that the two are mutually exclusive.

"...saying the same thing twis or rebeating the idea."

I'm pretty sure I rebeat a bunch of ideas.

>72 LizzieD: Rebeating is a *wonderful* word that English needs very much.

>70 LizzieD: I love hearing student howlers. I remember when I was in college seeing an article in a history journal that had quotes from what students had written, it may have been on exams, I'm not sure. Some of them were hysterical. I made a copy of it, but I've no idea if I can find it. Probably in a box somewhere.

>72 LizzieD: You did better with Wordle today than I did. It took me 5. I wasted my second guess on a word with the A in a spot I had already eliminated. Obviously I wasn't paying enough attention.

I like "rebeating" too.

We're agreed on the rebeating, Richard and Irene. I think it's my favorite from this list. I could have gone on and on about it.....

I did the same thing with the E, Irene. Tomorrow is another Wordle.

>42 LizzieD: I've added Common People to the TBR list. Your description is wonderful.

(((((Peggy)))))

>72 LizzieD: Rebeat ideas. *smile*

Wordle in 3 for me today.

(((((Karen))))) At long last we are 3 Sisters again. Irene????

Wordle 1,035 3/6*

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From Latin class -----

"Pomona she was a wood niff."
(I think apple wood smells pretty nice.)

>78 LizzieD: Wordle in two for me today! I was just trying a different order for the letters I had plus try an R and another vowel. And lo and behold, it was the right word. It's nice when that happens.

I hope you are having a good day!

It took my three tries for Wordle today too, Peggy. Lots of great hymn talk on your thread . I love Holy, Holy Holy, , How Great Thou Art and the choir song Just As I am many years ago when I was baptized. I've recently returned to attending church , and I miss those old hymns . I find that they only sing new to me " worship songs" , though another new comer mentioned to the pastor last Sunday that she too misses that old Hymn's . He said he did too, and they may consider it, but there a lot of new to the church people, so the simple worship songs might serve best.

Crappy day today. I'm afraid that's my future, though, for a while...Old Stuff broke his clavicle in a drunken fall, guess who gets to coddle him? Religious-nuttery starts Monday, so we will be eating even worse food while that goes on. The world's gone mire haywire than usual with that crazy man self-immolating in protest to the world coming to an end and it had something to do with 45 so he did it in front of the courthouse where 45's on trial. I just can't.

Richard, all that sounds completely dire. I'm so sorry that OS turns out to be your responsibility. How on earth can that be anything even considered??? And on bad food. My philosophy prof back in the mid-60s married the widow of one of the first men (maybe even the first - who immolated himself to protest the Vietnam War. Horrors!
Find some peace inside! I wish it for you. *smooch*

Well you, can be our third sister, Deborah! IRENE stands alone. YAY IRENE!!!!!
I have a very hard time with the new praise songs - the 12/7s or whatever they're called ---- 12 words repeated across 7 pitches. Surely they could include one real hymn a week. I don't think that's too much to ask. My church has 2 services. That's not ideal, but I keep reminding them that we could find our unity in service.

'Morning, Peggy.

Foggy here, dank, too.

Wordle in 4 for me.

I went to church with Jenna's friend Ethan's family for a bit in 1997 or so. I think they were hopeful that I'd come into the fold. The absolute worst part of an experience I didn't particularly like was the modern Christian music.

Karen, I've seen side-by-side comparisons of what fundamentalists and their ilk and liberals (for lack of a better word) think the Bible is about. This was some years ago, and I suspect that the lists might be a bit different now. They boil down to personal salvation vs. justice for the marginalized. They aren't mutually exclusive, of course, but modern praise music seems one-dimensional to me. I'll stop before I go on and on.

It's overcast here, but no rain yet. We got a half inch yesterday in less than ten minutes.

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More Latin ---
"Roads were paved & runts were made by wagons."

Hi Peggy, you're the Wordle star today. It was Wordle in 4 for me.

I'm with you on the modern praise songs. They all sound the same to me. It seemed like the praise songs we sang back in the 80's were better. But in general I prefer the old hymns.

'Morning, Peggy.

I like the Latin...

Wordle took me all six today. I was preparing myself for a skunk but guessed right.

>84 LizzieD: Runts are, in fact, made by wagons. That's why my sisters couldn't go on dates with boys who arrived in Mom and Dad's wagon....

*smooch*

>87 richardderus: I see it clearly, Richard. I'm not sure anybody else would have foreseen it. *smooch*

I didn't cotton to the double letter until too late, Karen, so I start again at 0. Here's to hope!
Wordle 1,037 X/6* I won't even take you through my struggles.

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More Latin - of sorts....
"Ganymede was the cup barer for the gods."

>88 LizzieD: It's also an alias in my favorite of Shakespeare's plays.

I had a malapropism that made my high school English teacher laugh at me (😡): I wrote about "the sword of Damascus" hanging over someone's head. It was at least appropriately incorrect.

Welcome to my thread, Renee! I had to Google Ganymede to see that you're referring to As You Like It. I really need to read Shakespeare now in my old age. I always promised myself that I would, but I keep thinking that I'm not old enough. Wrong!

I'm sorry your English teacher laughed at you. That sounds like a mistake typical of children who read. I'd have praised you for knowing the allusion, but I would have corrected you too. These children never read anything. That's why they rely on whatever they hear for easy words like "rut." I'm GLAD to have retired.

'Morning, Peggy! I hope you have a Very Good Day.

I was skunked today in Wordle. First time in a very long time.

Other than that, things are okay.

>91 karenmarie: Well ptui. My skunk yesterday....yours today........What are they thinking????

Wordle 1,038 2/6*

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"...the walls were to keep the enimes out and were the dividing lines of order and casose."

That sentence from an otherwise bright Latin student illustrates what I mean about typical children who have never read at all. I despair. It was possible for bright kids to make good grades in our schools and still be the next thing to functionally illiterate. I doubt improvement.
I remember meeting with a parent, the non-reader, and the guidance counselor.
I said, "Paul, let me help you find a book about something you like. Then you pledge to read it.
Counselor said,"Oh! I know a good computer program for that."
Guess which the family chose if they chose to do either.

'Morning, my dear.

I wonder if it's better to get skunked on Wordle or in real life? I'm not fond of them here in our yard, that's for sure.

Congrats on your two.

Wordle in 5 for me today.

Took me a bit to get both errors in >92 LizzieD:, not enough coffee yet. I can imagine you rolling your eyes, but you probably did it in in your mind. However, you must have done that many times a day for many years, right?

Well, I am on a roll that I don't particularly care for. Skunked again today in Wordle. Do we have skunks around here? I don't think I've ever seen one.

Wordle 1,039 X/6*

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"...golden arrow made someone fall in love at first size."

Don't you wonder how somebody forces that to make sense?

Hi Peggy.

Ugh to your getting skunked again. No skunks down south? You're lucky.

No attention to detail and sloppy thought processes in general, of course.

I am preening - Wordle in two for me today.

Whoo! HOOOO! for YOU, Ms. 2!!!

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"Thisbe saw a lion that was drenched from mulberry juice."

This may be what happens when you nap a bit in class. My favorite was an exam essay where the poor child wrote something along these lines: Nora killed her children that looked like her husband and slammed the door." (This was in 10th grade when NC forced the poor dears had to read World Lit all year, and we had tackled both Medea and A Doll's House.)

LIKE THE APPEARANCE OF HORSES by Andrew Krivak

If I had realized that Like the Appearance of Horses was the third book of a trilogy, I likely would not have asked ER for it. I'm happy for my ignorance because I would have missed beautiful, beautiful writing. On the other hand, this is the saddest - or maybe I mean most elegiac - book I've read in years. I took a year to read its 286 pages because I was too emotionally wrung out to read it straight through.
Krivak chronicles four generations of the young men of the Vinich/Konar family who went for soldiers from WWI through duty in Afghanistan. We see what they saw and watch them decide what duty compelled them to do. They returned home damaged. Their love for family and their place led them to heal more or less. To send our sons to fight is a horrible, horrible thing.
For Jozef, Becks, and Sam what redemption comes, comes from love. Redemption for the reader comes in images like the young widow rocking her nursing infant and wondering whether he can taste her bitterness in her milk or in phrases like, "...cottonwoods so old they looked like their limbs ached." Hannah of the second generation has the final word, "Yes, he fought in a war and she doesn't know why. She only knows that he did things he would not speak of, and it took time for him to forgive himself, just as his father had, and her father had. Just as she had."
I will find the first two books of the trilogy, The Sojourn and The Signal Flame, but not now. Not now.

(This appears on the book page, finally paying my debt to ER and Bellevue for allowing me to read the book!)

Wordle 1,041 4/6*

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>94 LizzieD: Sorry that you got skunked, Peggy. I'm even sorrier that I now know someone thought of "first size" and didn't seem to question what the devil it could actually mean....

*smooch*

'Morning, my dear.

It's so gorgeous out! Spring continues to spring, although I'm still sneezing from being out on Monday.

Wordle in four for me today.

>96 LizzieD: LOL for Thisbe and the lion. Euripedes and Ibsen in tenth grade? Yikes. Even though I was always in advanced or AP English, the most we did from the ancients was Aristotle’s Poetics. Remiss of my school district, of course.

>97 LizzieD: Oh my. Excellent review, and elegiac always brings me joy when seen visually.

Good morning, Richard. We cross-spoke, and I like that. My favorite response when I asked a student what he meant by "worthwild" (and I don't recall that he had an answer; it's often true that people don't think that words mean anything in particular) was to ask me what on earth "worthwhile" could mean.

I'll also add that US News & World Report just evaluated NC public high schools. My school, from which I graduated and at which I taught, ranked 383rd of 686. 25% were proficient in math; 37% in reading; 42% in science. Yet they graduated 74% last year. This was not the worst-performing school in the county or the Border Belt. On the other hand, our early college ranked 168th - best in the area and tied for the highest graduation rate in the state at 95%. How can it be good to send such a huge percentage of children out in the world so ill-prepared? I won't even go into what the state considers a passing score on their end-of-course tests. When I was teaching, it was something less than 50% correct.

To add to my rant, Karen, tenth grade is NOT the place to force kids who can't read to tackle world lit. I don't know whether NC still does it, but finding easy texts was impossible, and I spent a lot of time reading to them. If you could have read some of the ancients, and I know that you could have, I'm sorry that you didn't get to them in high school.

I'm glad that you like my review. I can't quite get my brain in gear yet to say what I want to. I hope I improve.

AND I see that I neglected to give you the last of the Latin confusions.

"San Scritt can be connected with English and Fresian."
(I think that this came from viewing the episode of Robert McNeil's Story of English that dealt with Latin influence. Otherwise, bad marks to the teacher for not writing down the word for everybody to see.)

>97 LizzieD: If you were emotionally wrung out by it, I am going to stay far away at the moment. . .

I think that's a good plan, Stasia. I've been staying away from it for a whole year. The book is well worth reading but not by anybody who is already having troubles.

>101 LizzieD: SAN SCRITT

LOL

LMAO

...and what a cute fancy-up of putting two "t"s on "scritt"! Where'd they think that one up from? "Fresian" is a gimme, though. I must motor right past the unable-to-read sophomores or we'll be here all day with my ragey screedmongering.

Weekend-ahead *smooch*

Collecting funnies is not the main reason I kept on teaching, Richard, but it ranks. When I was teaching, nobody else in my school was teaching them how to evaluate an internet site, or to spot bias, or to recognize logical fallacies, or that advertisers didn't love them and neither did politicians - all dealing with the manipulation of language. I was the only one to assign independent reading and require some engagement with it; the only one to teach the meaning of prefixes and how a suffix changes a word's function; the only one to teach basic grammar so that I could communicate about writing. Nobody else in honors and AP English required a research paper.

Here's the last of the Latin - or I truly have no idea where it came from or what it was about.

"Did your dad change your dipper when you were little?"

Wordle 1,042 3/6*

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Got an eye shot early this morning, and I'm off to nap a bit to ease it.

Just turned afternoon, Peggy. (got up late)

>105 LizzieD: I love the last of the Latin - a true LOL one.

Ugh for the eye shot, glad that eye shots are available for you and my friend Karen.

Three is good, Wordle sister, I got it in three today, too.

Nap away, dear one.

>105 LizzieD: Hi Peggy, I've been out all day and just getting around to threads.

As for the teaching, you have *got* to be bleeping kidding me! When I was in school, I had more than one class where we looked at advertising as well as other writing, and had to think about who was behind what was being said and why they were saying it. Critical thinking is even more important with the Internet. I am truly horrified that you were the only one teaching all these things or requiring a research paper.

I love all the Latin quotes you've been sharing. This last one is hilarious.

I'm glad you're able to get the eye shots to save your vision. My mom got them too, but she got diagnosed late, and lost more vision than she should have.

Wordle in 4 for me this time.

All-purpose *smooch*

Glad for the APS and one right back to you, Richard. *smooch*

Irene, I wish I were kidding. If I get started, I'll never stop and my blood pressure will sky-rocket. Suffice it to say that I doubt things have improved in the nearly 16 years since I retired. A person can't teach what she doesn't know, and most of our English teachers have been women educated at our local branch of the UNC system.

I'm sorry that your mother was diagnosed so late. I'm adamant about getting checked as soon as I can every time - 6 weeks instead of 8 instead of 12, etc. I understand that my doc doesn't want to overtreat, but I don't want to lose a bit of what I have any sooner than I must.

Wordle 1,043 4/6*

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On reading The Crucible - "John and Eliz were two descend characters."

That's the end of this page. OH WAIT!!!! Here's a bonus page. I don't think I've told you these.

Another about *Crucible* - "He was clapped in the stalks with the other people."

Back to Latin.

Write in Latin and translate the state motto of NC (which for the rest of you is esse quam videre - "to be rather than to seem")

"e pluibrus bono It is better to be shorter than taller."

>109 LizzieD: e pluibrus Bono
IJBOL

That is PRICEless!

Hi Peggy! Happy Saturday to you.

It took me 4 for Wordle today too, so, once again, we're Wordle Sisters.

Just gently touching base, dear lady.

I'm always happy to see you, Paul! I hope everything is going well with you.

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"The Illiad is believed to be a ballet."

(Let's make a firm commitment here.)

Hi Peggy! Happy Monday to you.

Wordle in 3 today. Congrats on your 3 yesterday.

Another gorgeous Carolina blue skies day here.

Good morning, Karen! Another gorgeous day for sure! We are really getting a Spring, and I'm loving it!

Congrats on your 3 today!

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"incolumis" - "in rows" "reddo" - redo (They are actually "unharmed" and "give back")

conga gona sum "It is what it is always" (cogito ergo sum)

(This is the "pluibrus" person and was early in the semester. She was one of my all-time favorite students - extremely dyslexic. I met with her, her mother, and the special ed teacher about the 2nd week of school and would have discouraged her except that she had learned every single thing I had asked and was loving Latin. She soon got the phrases down too even though she consistently wrote words like "caggade" {for "cabbage"}. Traditional Latin is actually a good subject for dyslexic people if you think of practicing declensions and conjugations written all in a row, or maybe I mean incolumis)

'Morning, Peggy! I hope you have a wonderful day.

Took me 5 today. Sigh.

I love the bits about your dyslexic student, so glad you were able to work with her, her mother, and the special ed teacher. Do you know what she's up to now? Is she still in your town?

Breezy, some clouds floating by, and etc.

Good morning, Karen, as we count down, I hope that you're feeling mostly anticipation, as opposed to dread, of getting this thing done. Prayers and love!
So if we average our last 2 days of Wordle, we come out with the same thing... I think.

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A TRANSLATION from the Latin:

"Not facial expression because clothes know or get to learn."

>115 LizzieD: "conga gonna sum" is sheer perfection. It takes an outsider to see what is there for the taking.

Have a happy Wednesay, only it's bloody bollocking Tuesday and it's all Horrible's fault. (I haven't quite figured out the mechanism, but I am morally certain I'm Right about this.)

Hi, Richard. Who am I to argue with moral certainty? conga gonna sum!!!

DAMAGED LIKE US by Krista Ritchie

I did it. I read one of Karen's MMs! I've already said that I found the sex repetitive, but that's true for me in MF romances too. I did like the family and the security force and the two young men. I don't think I'll read another, but I'll certainly scroll through some reviews to see what happens in a general way.

Now on to something else!

‘Morning, Peggy. Another gorgeous day here in NC.

>117 LizzieD: It’s a combination of dread and anticipation, frankly. Regardless of the math, we’re always Wordle Sisters.

>118 richardderus: Gads, RD. I can’t even escape your attacks on Peggy’s thread. NOW it’s Wednesday, although you’re probably confused and think it’s Sunday. *smooch*

>119 LizzieD: I’m glad you tried one of my MMs. I’m glad you saw what I saw about the family and security force and the two young men. I loved the series unreservedly at the time, although now, in hindsight, only seriously love Maximoff and Farrow’s story. I liked Sully/Akira/Banks’ story next, then Luna/Donnelly’s, and etc. Brava and yes, on to something else for you.

Wordle in 3 for me today.

Morning, Karen! I've skimmed some reviews. It's hard for me to imagine the Luna/Donnelly and Sulli/Akara combinations since the girls are so young when we meet them - especially Luna. Then I remember that even Akara is still a very young man, so I see how it works out.

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I am staying out of any time discussions!

"Catullus was a poet born to two wealthy men."

Hi Peggy - I somehow lost your thread! How are you?

>121 LizzieD: ...
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*smooch*

I wondered whether you'd like that, Richard. *smooch*

Hi, Beth! I appreciate your visit since I have been conspicuously absent from your thread for months and months. I'm sorry. I hope to get back. Meanwhile, I'm doing OK but dealing with stuff that leaves me flummoxed every single day.
Hope you're well and planning a great summer!

I have been in book acquisition frenzy - some on Kindle, some used, and some with the help of my friend. RICHES!!!!!

Another book in today, thanks to the nonfiction challenge for last month: Vermeer's Hat. It looks really good!

Wordle 1,048 4/6*

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I got a haircut!!!!! It isn't what I wanted yet, but it looks a LOT better than it did.

"Apollo had a place where he gave speeches and a maiden would sit on a volcano."

(It's always humbling to find out what people think I said. I'm pretty sure I didn't say that.)

You Elly Griffiths readers probably know this, but I've just found out that EG is the pen name of Domenica De Rosa. I ask you, "Which name seems more plausible?" I guess I would have used a pen name too.

>126 LizzieD: She certainly looks more like an "Elly" than a "Domenica" to me.

Hi, Linda! If she were writing romances, Domenica De Rosa would be perfect but still unbelievable. Am I being insensitive? It's just so exotic!

I've texted Karen this morning and she had a good night and hopes to go home at midday. I'll bet she's already said so on her thread which I haven't visited yet.

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>124 LizzieD: I have been in book acquisition frenzy - some on Kindle, some used, and some with the help of my friend. RICHES!!!!!

Yay! You need some spoiling, woman.

>125 LizzieD: I enjoyed my read of Vermeer's Hat last month so I hope you do too.

Have a fantastic Friday!

Good morning, Good Stasia! I look forward to *Vermeer*, but I'm enjoying my plow through Britain BC. The print is a bit small and gives my eyes a bit of trouble.

Have I said? Friends are whisking me off to the beach Monday afternoon. We'll come back Thursday. DH won't come or the whole thing would be about perfect. Anyway, I can't wait!

I forgot!

"They would go to this house of worship and worship the dolls of each one of the gods."

(Bible Belt for sure)

>130 LizzieD: Peggy, I am happy to hear that you are getting a nice time down at the beach. It sounds wonderful. You definitely deserve it!

Thank you, Irene. I don't know about deserving, but I am definitely excited and looking forward to the time with old friends.

>130 LizzieD: *snort* I myownself think the kid's got a point. But I would, wouldn't I?

*smooch*

Good morning, Good Richard. Has anybody else in this world ever referred to a pagan temple as a "house of worship"? It reeks of home and makes me smile. *smooch*

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Book Report
"He was getting bad grades and constantly getting in trouble. He also had a drug problem at this time. During this time he goes to a canceler to seek help."

>134 LizzieD: I want to see a canceler. Not the media sort, the personal sort that can cancel a problem right out of me!

>134 LizzieD: We need a lot more cancelers in this culture.

I can see no real difference between the christian one or the pagan ones...the dolls tend to be prettier in the Greek ones but apart from that what's the diff?

That's interesting, Susan and Richard. I have always read that as a person canceler instead of a problem canceler. I would hate to be canceled right now.

I'm not an apologist, Richard. I'm just talking terminology.

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Last one for awhile. I'd get the title of my book about teaching from this one.

"But Brandon copied my paper. I am sorry for the big missed ape."

I'm off and away with old friends until Thursday! Y'all take care!!!!!

>137 LizzieD: Terminology is so deeply important when trying to reach understanding and agreement. Like information theory, it breaks my teeny little brain-thing trying to get it to fit inside my cranium.

I was thinking problem-canceler, but a person-canceler who, oh let's just take an example, hates orange spray-tanned persons would get my enthusiastic support....

*smooch* Richard. The thing is to care enough to ask questions and listen to the answer

Let's see. I wouldn't mind canceling the first young woman who talked with a ten year-old's voice and distorted vowel sounds and ended each phrase with an upward inflection and each sentence with vocal fry. Or the first person to use "you know" as a mannerism without saying anything that his listener knows. Or the one who thought "as well" sounded better than "too" or "also." Hmmmm. I think I'll not go down that path any further.

>140 LizzieD: Jim and I went to a play reading meetup yesterday, and what caught my ear was how one of the readers would interpose 'like' when it wasn't in the script.

>140 LizzieD: I believe you! I believe!! I'm sad about it, but language changes. I guess every generation deplores the loss of what seemed good to them. I do wonder how children are going to learn to read if they have any phonic teaching at all when their young mothers say, (my favorite illustration), "We got the peent on sell, and we'll start working at tyoo."

I remember how appalled I was when Nathalie said that her English coach had told them to say, "as well" instead of "too."

I know you are off today for your trip. Have a wonderful time!

Thank you, Stasia! I have my teeth cleaned early in the afternoon and expect my ride to be here when I return. I am more excited than I can say! It will have been six years since I've been with all these friends together and their husbands (who also grew up with us with one exception.... They've been married 56 years, so in a real way he grew up with us too). My DH can't come, and that's the only downside for me. To the BEACH!

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🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩least, share, shape, shake, shade, shave This is one time when hard mode guarantees alphabet soup. WHEW!

I'll give you some student wisdom for the days I'll be gone. I may have posted these before, but I'm enjoying them, and I hope you are - some surprising, some predictable.

"Th Wife of Bath wants to be the first for communism because of her social status."

"... hung from the limp of a tree."

"the witches tell him to be where of Macduff." (later in the same paper) "Macduff goes to England to find the real air to the throne."

"... did not know Macduff's mother didn't have him natural she had a seasection."

I'm sure you will have a wonderful time Peggy. I can feel your excitement. Bon voyage!

Enjoy your trip to the beach, Peggy!