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You Don't Know Me but You Don't Like Me: Phish, Insane Clown Posse, and My Misadventures with Two of Music's Most Maligned Tribes

von Nathan Rabin

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One of Rolling Stone's 20 Best Music Books of 2013 and one of Slate's Staff Picks for Best Books of 2013 The ebook edition now includes Nathan Rabin's "Extended Jam Session"--a two-part bonus chapter about what writing this book did to (and for) his life. The first part chronicles the author's melancholy yet hilarious excursion on the maiden voyage of the Kid Rock Chillin' the Most cruise, and the second part depicts the life lessons gleaned from getting sued by American Express over the charges the author racked up writing the book. The chapter sheds new light on a singular and unique exploration of personal and musical obsession and further highlights the book's theme of transcendence through utter, abject failure. When memoirist and former head writer for The A.V. Club Nathan Rabin first set out to write about obsessed music fans, he had no idea the journey would take him to the deepest recesses of both the pop culture universe and his own mind. For two very curious years, Rabin, who Mindy Kaling called "smart and funny" in The New Yorker, hit the road with two of music's most well-established fanbases: Phish's hippie fans and Insane Clown Posse's notorious "Juggalos." Musically or style-wise, these two groups could not be more different from each other, and Rabin, admittedly, was a cynic about both bands. But once he gets deep below the surface, past the caricatures and into the essence of their collective cultures, he discovers that both groups have tapped into the human need for community. Rabin also grapples with his own mental well-being--he discovers that he is bipolar--and his journey is both a prism for cultural analysis and a deeply personal exploration, equal parts humor and heart.… (mehr)
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Nathan Rabin’s memoir feels a little bit half-baked (no pun intended). The progress is disjointed and left me wondering what the point was. While he does detail what it is like to be at Phish and Insane Clown Posse shows, he doesn’t really reflect much on how the two groups relate to each other. Although claiming to not be a fan of either group when setting out on following them to various venues, he does make a turnaround and learns to love the music.

He describes Insane Clown Posse fans as outcasts of society, lower class people who are misunderstood. This seems a bit simplistic to me. He is more generous with Phish fans and does not describe them with such a broad brush, but he does admit that there is a stereotype of loser hippie pothead.

During the progress of the book, Rabin describes having a psychological breakdown. He is working too hard and feeling like he is not getting anything done, including this particular book. He is diagnosed with bipolar disorder at some point – perhaps my experience of this book as being a disjointed effort at storytelling is a reflection of this diagnosis.

Being a fan of Phish, I definitely got more out of his descriptions of experiencing the band perform live. On page 126, he states: “…Most rock ‘n’ roll shows promise a good time. Phish shows offer the possibility, if not the promise, of transcendence. It’s not just the music but rather a strange, hard to quantify combination of music, history, drugs, and nature that combines to make a truly ecstatic Phish show not just a concert but a borderline spiritual experience.”

He also discusses a typical Phish fan on page 135: “He was spinning a familiar narrative: You find Phish. It changes your life and rewires your circuitry, you grow up and do the college, job, marriage thing but you still go to shows now and then because it’s part of your history, it’s part of your past, it’s part of who you are.”

As a memoir, the book is fine. I would have appreciated a more analytical approach, but I suppose that is another book by another author.
1 abstimmen Carlie | Dec 3, 2014 |
Rabin comes right out in the intro and says that if your looking for some kind of anthropological expose on Juggaloes and Phish followers that this is the wrong book. It's a music writer's memoir of his years of fascination and eventual becoming fans of both groups. While I appreciate him shedding light on the more inclusive aspects of both fandoms, some of the scenes of heavy drug use and especially the exhibitionist tendencies of Juggalettes satisfied a bit of my expose expectations, but overall it had a hard time living up to the title. ( )
  Bodagirl | Dec 24, 2013 |
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One of Rolling Stone's 20 Best Music Books of 2013 and one of Slate's Staff Picks for Best Books of 2013 The ebook edition now includes Nathan Rabin's "Extended Jam Session"--a two-part bonus chapter about what writing this book did to (and for) his life. The first part chronicles the author's melancholy yet hilarious excursion on the maiden voyage of the Kid Rock Chillin' the Most cruise, and the second part depicts the life lessons gleaned from getting sued by American Express over the charges the author racked up writing the book. The chapter sheds new light on a singular and unique exploration of personal and musical obsession and further highlights the book's theme of transcendence through utter, abject failure. When memoirist and former head writer for The A.V. Club Nathan Rabin first set out to write about obsessed music fans, he had no idea the journey would take him to the deepest recesses of both the pop culture universe and his own mind. For two very curious years, Rabin, who Mindy Kaling called "smart and funny" in The New Yorker, hit the road with two of music's most well-established fanbases: Phish's hippie fans and Insane Clown Posse's notorious "Juggalos." Musically or style-wise, these two groups could not be more different from each other, and Rabin, admittedly, was a cynic about both bands. But once he gets deep below the surface, past the caricatures and into the essence of their collective cultures, he discovers that both groups have tapped into the human need for community. Rabin also grapples with his own mental well-being--he discovers that he is bipolar--and his journey is both a prism for cultural analysis and a deeply personal exploration, equal parts humor and heart.

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