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Divided We Fall: America's Secession Threat and How to Restore Our Nation

von David A. French

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"David French examines the depths of the American ideological divide, diagnoses its core causes, and provides a hopeful path forward. Polarization. Tribalization. Division. Some look at the growing political tension in our nation and call it a "cold civil war." Others say it's nothing more than the culture war of the last three decades, amplified beyond reason by social media. David French argues that it's something else-the beginning of a national separation that could very well end in secession. An engaging mix of cutting edge research and fair-minded analysis, Divided We Fall is an unblinking look at the true dimensions and dangers of this widening ideological gap, and what could happen if we don't take steps toward bridging it. French imagines a near future where the states are no longer united. He illustrates several chillingly plausible national break-up scenarios, and unpacks the significant-and often surprising-domestic and global consequences of such an event. But our future is not written in stone. There are solutions, but they aren't easy and they require an awakening. They require the rediscovery of old American constitutional principles combined with a dose of humility for all sides. If we want to remain standing, we must learn to stand together again"--… (mehr)
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America at the moment needs more people like author and political commentator David French. He's an evangelical Christian and although I disagree with him on a majority of cultural and philosophical viewpoints, we both agree that this country is potentially better off because of its diverse cultural landscape and therefore we should work towards acknowledging and preserving that reality. In some sense, we're already there, but in another sense building that kind of society is an ongoing struggle.

Now, I'm not arguing for a "both sides" perspective on this. The Right is by far more of a threat to the American experiment than the Left is at the moment. Both extremes have their share of shocking levels of intolerance, but the Right's capacity for despising the "other", AKA those outside of their tribe, is 10x worse. What David French is arguing for is to "let California be California, and let Tennessee be Tennessee." In other words, in a country as large and diverse as America, it seems to do more harm than good to try and enforce a singular national identity. We should absolutely protect the rights of everyone and work to maintain the rule of law, but at the same time communities in California, for example, should be given the agency to be more like themselves, and the communities in Tennessee the same. There's a lot more nuance to this viewpoint, but I stand by it in general. We need to find a way co-exist and have healthy disagreements with each other in this rapidly changing world.

I don't believe the divide we are experiencing as a country right now is any one group's active doing. It's a combination of rapid globalization and rapid digital interconnectedness that has brought all viewpoints uncomfortably closer together, and unfortunately that has led to the loudest of one extreme shouting at the loudest of the other extreme, and the rest of us mistaking their exchange as representative of the norm.

Like I said above, I disagree with the evangelical Christian viewpoint in general. There's a puritan rot in this country that is at odds with building a truly free society. But I like to think we've evolved past the need for military war to address our differences. Let's have a war of ideas instead. Let's continue to live and let live while protecting the rights of everyone, and let's get better about debating and resolving conflicts through means other than violence. ( )
  Daniel.Estes | Aug 25, 2022 |
Americans, Read This Book. Now. Quite simply, I've yet to encounter a more important book for every American to read *immediately*, and *particularly* before you vote in the General Election this fall. French does a solid job detailing the stark realities of exactly where we are as a nation politically, and where we've been. He then dedicates just three chapters to some of the most disturbing things I've ever read, - and I've read books that would make even an Iraq War veteran like French puke his guts out in their explicit horror. In two of these three chapters, French presents two scenarios for a complete dissolution of the United States of America - one from the right, one from the left. And what makes these scenarios so disturbing? I'm writing this review on July 4th, 2020. The book actually publishes (so far at least) on September 22, 2020. *Either of these scenarios could plausibly happen in between me writing this review and most of you being able to read this book.* After presenting these scenarios in all their horror, French then spends the back third of the book detailing how we can prevent them from happening. While he ultimately only has two real recommendations - neither easy and arguably neither directly feasible in this moment, but both things we can commit to working towards - they are both things that could actually work, if indeed Americans want to save America. Very much recommended. ( )
  BookAnonJeff | Jul 11, 2021 |
Lots of interesting discussions here about the state of political discourse in American society, and where it might lead. Unfortunately, the author has a tendency to mention what must be right-wing radio talking points, obsessions, and grievances, without providing definitions or context, so some of this book is rather hard to follow if you're not part of that media bubble. The entire center section of the book, an imagined future of various secession scenarios, is fascinating and oddly compelling (and realistically terrifying), though it often reads as a Glenn Beck-ish fevered fantasy. Still, there's plenty here to ponder. ( )
  RandyRasa | Oct 25, 2020 |
Summary: An argument warning that the political divides in American life could lead to a dissolution of the nation through secession and may be averted by a tolerant federalism.

One of my enjoyments is reading the history of the American Civil War and the events leading up to it. In recent years, that history has increasingly disturbed me as I recognize the troubling parallel of the deep political divides and inflammatory rhetoric that led to armed conflict, and our present time. I’ve wondered where this could lead: authoritarian government, civil unrest and breakdown, or a war of red versus blue.

If there is any comfort in Divided We Fall, it is to learn that a thoughtful political commentator has similar concerns. David French believes we could well be headed toward another secession of states, one he does not believe will lead to military action, but to a greatly diminished America, both domestically, and in global affairs, a prospect perhaps as troubling as armed conflict within our border.

What leads him to moot this possibility is the character of our divides. For one thing, they may be charted along regional lines. His thesis is that geography plus culture plus fear may equal secession. One particular culture subject to the kindling of fear is the religious subculture. While some fear the intrusion of the state on religious freedom and decry court decisions contrary to religious morality, others fear the intrusion of one religion into a very plural public life, limiting the freedom of others.

Chapter 5 on “How an Academic Article Explains America” may be the most important in the book. It introduces us to an article titled “The Law of Group Polarization.” that proposes that when groups are formed with a “predeliberation tendency,” rather than making better judgments than on their own, they will move toward the extreme of their bias. In our present setting, even moderates put off by one side (left or right) will tend to move to the extreme version of what they favor, intensifying our divisions. Sadly, French observes in the following chapters, churches have followed this, largely following the cultural and geographical alignments within which they are embedded, and that political alignments have trumped other alignments, where political identities primary and ultimate.

French traces the breakdown in our capacity for discourse. No longer can friends agree to disagree–they become enemies. Free speech has become subject to “safetyism” and cancel culture. French, who has worked extensively as a lawyer on free speech issues, makes a passionate appeal for the critical role of the First Amendment as critical to giving marginal groups a voice. Instead, the effort of our contemporary discourse is to use power to silence the opposition, which only inflames opposition.

He sets out two fictional secession scenarios, one led by California, the other by Texas. California’s is over immigration and gun control. Texas secedes to protect from a blue backlash. He explores the resultant unraveling of the Pax Americana, the various security guarantees that prevented armed conflict in many parts of the world, including China, the Middle East, and eastern Europe.

French’s proposed remedy is Madisonian federalism that accepts faction but vigorously protects free speech. He believes that it is possible for competing communities to exist in different parts of the country. He argues that the First Amendment protects these. He contends that genuine tolerance protects difference–we only tolerate that with which we disagree. He longs for moments of grace leading to movements of grace, citing the example of the reconciliation between SNL’s Pete Davidson, and Dan Crenshaw, a Republican congressional candidate. When mocked by Davidson for a war wound, Crenshaw accepted a later apology and then appeared on the show, talking about what “never forget” meant to both of them–speaking of Davidson’s father, a fireman who died on 9/11.

French argues this healthy federalism protects individual liberties while allowing public policy to be shaped more by state and local governments than a “one size fits all” approach that may work in a utopia, but not in America. He contrasts Arizona and California’s approach to use of state resources with regard to immigration enforcement and argues that each were responses to what they thought best and should have been equally upheld under healthy federalism. He similarly cites state-based universal health care proposals as opposed to a nationalized system.

In the end, what French calls for is courage to engage what he considers the more critical culture war of the age–not between left and right, but between decency and indecency. He believes there is a need for a better political class, one committed to Micah 6:8 virtues of justice, mercy, and humility before God.

I find myself both affirming much of this analysis and questioning parts. I agree with his analysis of our divides. I had not thought deeply about secession, but having seen more and more commentary from others, it seems possible. Yet I wonder. Many states are more purple than red or blue. My state of Ohio is like that. What happens to blue elements in this scenario? Or what happens when a state like ours “flips.” All in all, I am more fearful of civil disorder within many of our states and growth of militia and vigilante actions. I think there is much in his proposals of a tolerant federalism in our pluralistic society, but how this works to protect individual liberties seems to be the challenge. While some states provide for universal health care, what about those who don’t, when access varies along economic, racial, or even partisan lines? Finally, I wonder from where we get a better political class committed to justice, mercy, and humility?

I agree with French that we need such a political class and recovery of the kind of federalist toleration and First Amendment-affirming political discourse for which he advocates. French has been courageous in using his own voice to advocate for a better America, resulting in vicious criticisms, and threats against his family. The critical question is whether enough others will join him and those of his like to make a difference.

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Disclosure of Material (and Personal) Connection: I received a complimentary review copy of this book from the author, who served as a wise advisor during a campus religious freedom issue with which I was involved in 2005. The opinions I have expressed are my own. ( )
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"David French examines the depths of the American ideological divide, diagnoses its core causes, and provides a hopeful path forward. Polarization. Tribalization. Division. Some look at the growing political tension in our nation and call it a "cold civil war." Others say it's nothing more than the culture war of the last three decades, amplified beyond reason by social media. David French argues that it's something else-the beginning of a national separation that could very well end in secession. An engaging mix of cutting edge research and fair-minded analysis, Divided We Fall is an unblinking look at the true dimensions and dangers of this widening ideological gap, and what could happen if we don't take steps toward bridging it. French imagines a near future where the states are no longer united. He illustrates several chillingly plausible national break-up scenarios, and unpacks the significant-and often surprising-domestic and global consequences of such an event. But our future is not written in stone. There are solutions, but they aren't easy and they require an awakening. They require the rediscovery of old American constitutional principles combined with a dose of humility for all sides. If we want to remain standing, we must learn to stand together again"--

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