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Carnegie Hill von Jonathan Vatner
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Carnegie Hill (2019. Auflage)

von Jonathan Vatner

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Please note that I received this book via NetGalley. This did not affect my rating or review.

How was this tagged as a romance? I guess train-wreck was too on point. Seriously though, I ended up loathing 99 percent of the characters in this book. Even the one person I didn't loathe, I seriously disliked because he outed someone. I am surprised this wasn't an Oprah Book Pick since every time she loves a book I usually have this reaction to the book.

"Carnegie Hill" follows the residents and a man who works at a co-op in New York. Yeah. I am trying to come up with something pithy here, but that's all I got. Vatner switches POVs from various people throughout this book. We have Pepper (trying to go as Penelope) Bradford newly engaged to Rick. We have Pepper and Rick's next door neighbors, Birdie and George. We also have Francis and his wife Carol. We also follow a porter that works at the building, Caleb.

Pepper was exhausting. She is an heiress based on context clues and doesn't have a job. Though she's had other relationships end due to her parents commentary, she's happy and in love with Rick. Moving into Carnegie Hill she has a chance to prove to them that she can do something meaningful and joins the co-op board. Of course she finds out that the board is full of a lot of elderly residents who seem okay with the co-op being predominantly white. Pepper is what I call white outraged. Angry about it, but really doesn't try to do anything except complain about others. She's also beyond exhausting about people having "secrets." This is mentioned throughout the book. I really wanted to tell Pepper that's called boundaries and mind her own damn business.

Pepper's fiancee Rick was a hot mess. No spoilers, but what the hell. At one point I wondered if this author was taking a jab at therapy or what because what some of them were saying had me going the hell.

Birdie is trying to get her recently retired (or told to retired or be fired) husband George to take an interest in his life again. She wants them to move back to Canada or just do anything else. Instead George spends a lot of his time sleeping and avoiding leaving their apartment. I don't even know what to say. Birdie read as heartless and George was a confusing character to me. I don't know what he wanted exactly. I get feeling like it wasn't fair that he was pushed out of his job and then the next one he took he was fired from due to him not getting technology. But the spiral felt so fast to me as a reader. And then it just continues for about a year.

Francis, also exhausting. He's similar to Pepper wanting to complain about the rich and elite but not do much about it. Him trying to get Caleb to read books and acting as if he understood his life was....well it was something.

Caleb seemed to be there to give the everyday man's perspective, but I found his world view to be too simplistic too.

There are secondary characters in this one (too numerous to count) and they jumble through the characters stories. Everyone started to read as a caricature to me after a while. I really started to cringe every time Pepper and Rick popped up because I just needed a break from that slow moving disaster.

I have to say that the writing wasn't that great. I think switching from Pepper, to Birdie, George, Francis, Rick, and Caleb didn't help. I honestly had no energy for half of the characters and the lies and mess they were telling themselves and others. The whole book felt disjointed and read like a bad play. I don't know if Vatner was going for something humorous or what. Or was trying to say something pointed. Whatever it was, it flew over my head. Oh wait, it made marriage seem like a hellscape of never ending snide remarks and anger that the person that you married isn't doing exactly what you want in the moment though you are constantly changing your mind.



The flow was not good. The character POVs were lopsided. We spent most of the book with Pepper. I don't know if this could have been fixed if we just stayed with Pepper and Rick or what. Everyone was so underdeveloped.

The book takes place in New York over the course of a year I think. Though a few places are mentioned like Central Park, for the most part the book doesn't do a great job of exploring New York. Everything felt claustrophobic after a while since everything takes place in apartments or at therapist offices.

The ending felt unfinished to me. ( )
  ObsidianBlue | Jul 1, 2020 |
Adored this. Adored the slightly-more-literary prose, adored the mix of old and young characters, adored the poignant treatment of race especially. Some truly lovely insights into the human psyche and the power money has. ( )
  whakaora | Mar 5, 2023 |
A rather vapid novel of manners about the residents of a stodgy Manhattan Co-op.. The main character is a young woman of extreme privilege who has never worked a day in her life and is terrified of what people (especially her parents) think of her. Her transformation into a functioning human is neither believable or realistic. Skip this one. ( )
  etxgardener | Feb 3, 2023 |
While there are some problems with Jonathan Vatner's first novel, it's a refreshing change from the traditional confines of "chick lit" where plot always hinges on "getting the man". Carnegie Hill asks "Do you really want the man?" It's easy to get lost in this book because there are too many competing points of view...which also limits the character development of each...but this book is notable for delving into the mind of a character who might be presented as nothing but a cad in another book. ( )
  TheLoisLevel | Jun 27, 2022 |
Please note that I received this book via NetGalley. This did not affect my rating or review.

How was this tagged as a romance? I guess train-wreck was too on point. Seriously though, I ended up loathing 99 percent of the characters in this book. Even the one person I didn't loathe, I seriously disliked because he outed someone. I am surprised this wasn't an Oprah Book Pick since every time she loves a book I usually have this reaction to the book.

"Carnegie Hill" follows the residents and a man who works at a co-op in New York. Yeah. I am trying to come up with something pithy here, but that's all I got. Vatner switches POVs from various people throughout this book. We have Pepper (trying to go as Penelope) Bradford newly engaged to Rick. We have Pepper and Rick's next door neighbors, Birdie and George. We also have Francis and his wife Carol. We also follow a porter that works at the building, Caleb.

Pepper was exhausting. She is an heiress based on context clues and doesn't have a job. Though she's had other relationships end due to her parents commentary, she's happy and in love with Rick. Moving into Carnegie Hill she has a chance to prove to them that she can do something meaningful and joins the co-op board. Of course she finds out that the board is full of a lot of elderly residents who seem okay with the co-op being predominantly white. Pepper is what I call white outraged. Angry about it, but really doesn't try to do anything except complain about others. She's also beyond exhausting about people having "secrets." This is mentioned throughout the book. I really wanted to tell Pepper that's called boundaries and mind her own damn business.

Pepper's fiancee Rick was a hot mess. No spoilers, but what the hell. At one point I wondered if this author was taking a jab at therapy or what because what some of them were saying had me going the hell.

Birdie is trying to get her recently retired (or told to retired or be fired) husband George to take an interest in his life again. She wants them to move back to Canada or just do anything else. Instead George spends a lot of his time sleeping and avoiding leaving their apartment. I don't even know what to say. Birdie read as heartless and George was a confusing character to me. I don't know what he wanted exactly. I get feeling like it wasn't fair that he was pushed out of his job and then the next one he took he was fired from due to him not getting technology. But the spiral felt so fast to me as a reader. And then it just continues for about a year.

Francis, also exhausting. He's similar to Pepper wanting to complain about the rich and elite but not do much about it. Him trying to get Caleb to read books and acting as if he understood his life was....well it was something.

Caleb seemed to be there to give the everyday man's perspective, but I found his world view to be too simplistic too.

There are secondary characters in this one (too numerous to count) and they jumble through the characters stories. Everyone started to read as a caricature to me after a while. I really started to cringe every time Pepper and Rick popped up because I just needed a break from that slow moving disaster.

I have to say that the writing wasn't that great. I think switching from Pepper, to Birdie, George, Francis, Rick, and Caleb didn't help. I honestly had no energy for half of the characters and the lies and mess they were telling themselves and others. The whole book felt disjointed and read like a bad play. I don't know if Vatner was going for something humorous or what. Or was trying to say something pointed. Whatever it was, it flew over my head. Oh wait, it made marriage seem like a hellscape of never ending snide remarks and anger that the person that you married isn't doing exactly what you want in the moment though you are constantly changing your mind.



The flow was not good. The character POVs were lopsided. We spent most of the book with Pepper. I don't know if this could have been fixed if we just stayed with Pepper and Rick or what. Everyone was so underdeveloped.

The book takes place in New York over the course of a year I think. Though a few places are mentioned like Central Park, for the most part the book doesn't do a great job of exploring New York. Everything felt claustrophobic after a while since everything takes place in apartments or at therapist offices.

The ending felt unfinished to me. ( )
  ObsidianBlue | Jul 1, 2020 |
Overall, a solid debut novel by Vatner but rather a slog to read. Overall, this seems to be a novel about various forms of partnerships/relationships if you will. Relationships include marriage, betrothals and just getting off the ground twosomes. Then there are the familial relationships, work relationships etc etc.
It is a very good basis for a story - it's just rather long winded and the characters didn't draw me in, some were rather predictable.
Writing about many owners in an apartment building is a tough task so I would read Vatner's next novel in the hopes he pares down his story to one or two less directions and more character development.
Thank you NetGalley, author and publisher an advanced copy of this book. ( )
  Carmenere | Dec 17, 2019 |
CARNEGIE HILL, by Jonathan Vatner, focuses on Penelope "Pepper" Bradford, a woman, at age thrity-three, whose maturity to adulthood has been stilted by her spoiled upbringing. Pepper has recently moved with her fiancé, Rick, into the Chelmsford Arms, an elite and expensive co-op building on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. Pepper has a new home, a new man, and is in a new chapter in her life. As Pepper wades through all of this, she finds out that what she should want and what her soul tells her she wants are two different things.
Vatner creates a world within the walls of Chelmsford Arms of the financially elite lifestyle in New York City. Pepper is a well-developed and layered main character, but unfortunately at times comes off as unappealingly spoiled and unaware of how the world works around her. Vatner does do an excellent job, though, of creating a wonderful cast of supporting characters in the building, all of which are likable in their own way. As the story progresses, the reader is rewarded with the emotional growth of many of the people around Pepper and although there are some uncomfortable but captivating turns towards the end of the book, the novel ends on a hopeful note for everyone.
CARNEGIE HILL is an entertaining and insightful book about the New York elite and also reminds us that everyone can grow as people now matter how much money or how old you are.
Thank you to Thomas Dunne/St. Martin's Press, Jonathan Vatner, and Netgalley for a copy of this book in exchange for an honest review! ( )
  EHoward29 | Jul 25, 2019 |
I had high hopes for this book - smashed to smithereens. Everyone was unlikeable, everyone was damaged, entitled, and name dropping all over the place. There is a love story that destructs by being “dismantled from the inside”. Oversexed, crazy sexed, not enough sex, “vulgar and morally suspect” - and that is the author’s description so where can we possibly go from there?!

The story was a shade wide of believable. A newbie with no career, no credits, and less experience elected to the Board of a stodgy old coop in NYC. I suppose it happens but gaining the upper hand and taking over, that’s is a large stretch. A husband who can’t keep it in his pants, a gay couple struggling not to be outed while wanting to be “out”. Everything in this book was out of nowhere and everything gets thrown into the mix and thrown at the wall to see if anything will stick.

I received this book from NetGalley and St. Martin’s Press in exchange for an honest review. ( )
  kimkimkim | Jul 24, 2019 |
This book is not a comedy. It's basically a narrative about a bunch of people that live in the same building in New York, and all their first world problems. I couldn't relate to the characters at all. ( )
  kerryp | Apr 30, 2019 |

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